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dtbushpilot
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I guess I'm a rebel or something.....I usually cross the border with a small dog and 2 cats in carriers along with a cat box, cat food, dog food, cat
and dog treats and all the related leashes, poop bags, cute outfits etc. and when they ask me what I'm bringing back from MX I say "nothing", when
they ask me what I was doing there I say that I have a home there. They have never commented on the animals even though they are in plain sight.
In the past we always got health certificates coming and going. It became an expensive proposition ($110 each US and $30 each MX) for something that
nobody asked for going in either direction so I quit getting them. I always carry current records for all the animals.
Flying is a different situation, you need the certificate both ways, they usually ask for it and be sure that it is the original, not a copy.
We travel back and forth often so it wouldn't be a big deal for us if we were turned back at the border either direction to obtain the required
certificates, it would only take a few hours to get it done on either side of the border and it would make a good trip report for Nomads.
I'm not suggesting that anybody break the law, just telling my story. Next time I cross I might find myself face down, handcuffed in the parking lot
of secondary for smuggling a pound of cat food into the US, it just hasn't been an issue yet.....dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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fandango
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dt:
i felt exactly that way about the health certificate for my cats. figured the US border agent would send me back and i would get a certificate in
tijuana. i asked the agent if that is what would happen and she said no, they would impound the animal.
i would rather be handcuffed and face down in the parking lot than have the kitties impounded so i recently got the dang health certs for them, BUT no
rabies.
sbwontoo
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goldhuntress
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We just went though secondary last week over the dog food. We had a little left and the border guy wasn't really clear on what was OK and what wasn't
so onto secondary. The Agriculture guy in secondary said the policy JUST CHANGED. Under 50 lbs. in the original bag is OK. I'd keep the receipt too.
This change is evidently so recent that he wasn't even sure and had to go check in the office.
I never get a health certificate.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Here's a tale from back in the eighties...
Young lady traveled with a German Shepherd. One day the friendly dog ran up to a little boy to sniff him. The tyke turned and tried to run, tripped
and skinned his knee. Mother freaked, called the cops who then accused the dog of biting the boy. Of course it was B.S. But, there was a big hassle
over whether the dog "may have rabies". It had to sit miserably at a vet for 10 days when a certificate could not be produced. Better to be prepared
for bureaucratic Mexico than to get caught with shorts down to ankles.
[Edited on 3-25-2012 by DavidE]
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Mula
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If you are flying, health certificates from both sides are necessary.
If you are driving, it's your choice, but I have never had a health certificate request from either side border people in 30+ years of driving back
and forth with 1 to 3 dogs, so I don't bother with them anymore, but do carry the shot records with me.
Taking rescue Mexican dogs to the States or Canada is not a problem. People adopt here all the time and take their prize Mexican dogs back to their
homes. Vaccinations necessary, but if driving, again, your option. No one really asks.
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Jack Swords
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Fandango said " they would impound the animal." Our vet in La Paz charges $8 USD for the Health Certificate. I would rather carry the certificate and
not use it than need it and not have it.
30 years ago we didn't need to bond our car going to Mex mainland, didn't need to import our boat to leave it, etc. Times are changing.
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captkw
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fandango
do you accept anything someone says with a badge..get a grip !!! k&T 
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fandango
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no cap i don't.
but that agent has the power to cause problems for me when i travel with the cats and i wouldn't want my old cats traumitized by being taken.
sbwontoo
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DENNIS
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no cap i don't.
but that agent has the power to cause problems for me when i travel with the cats and i wouldn't want my old cats traumitized by being taken.
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Wise decision. You never know what's going on inside an inspectors head. Sometimes, I think they're the ones who need the Rabies shots.
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captkw
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Mood: new dog/missing the old 1
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fandango
HOLA, you are correct...K&T.....
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nbacc
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Ah...so the law has changed. I know several people who have had trouble with dog food in an unopened bag (bought in the USA) when returning to the
USA. The last year or so we have given ours away before we return and the first stop is Walmart for dog food. Hopefully each agent knows this...they
have the last word. nancy
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beddows
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The certificate requirement was introduced mid last year. for driving in as well. Not likely to be asked but I have met 2 people who were.
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