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[*] posted on 3-29-2012 at 08:37 AM


oh maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! My knees just buckled when I saw the J12 concept.





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[*] posted on 3-29-2012 at 09:11 AM


I also liked the Gladiator concept and was expecting to see it as a production model by now!







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[*] posted on 3-29-2012 at 11:55 AM


Interesting looking rig. I wonder what powerplant they will install? Hope for a diesel, otherwise mileage will be a real issue, especially in this day and age. I also wonder if it is full time 4wd which does not help mileage. My guess is, with the portal axles, it is. To me the real drawback is driving over the front wheels. I had a van once and it was very scary in the rain. What would happen is the rear would lock up because it was so light and you could not feel the rear swing out because you were over the pivot point. Once it got to about 45 degrees out, then you would notice something wrong. You had no idea where the car was until it was really out of line. Bad for rain, mud, snow, ice.
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[*] posted on 3-29-2012 at 12:45 PM


An affordable Unimog in the making????



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[*] posted on 3-29-2012 at 02:33 PM


Mt.goat:

Mine was the crew cab. (not this one but very similar!) I used it to haul top soil for the Chicano's People's Park under the freeway to Coronado back when my freak flag was flying.

I had two dirt bikes, and four days camping gear on board on the way to Laguna Hansen when east of Tacate I hit a cow in the dark.

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I just thought to add, I OBVIOUSLY wasn't going very fast.:lol:

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[*] posted on 3-29-2012 at 02:53 PM


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Mt.goat:

Mine was the crew cab. (not this one but very similar!) I used it to haul top soil for the Chicano's People's Park under the freeway to Coronado back when my freak flag was flying.

I had two dirt bikes, and four days camping gear on board on the way to Laguna Hansen when east of Tacate I hit a cow in the dark.

1970.

I just thought to add, I OBVIOUSLY wasn't going very fast.:lol:

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cool rig!
classic VW beats a jeep any day anywhere!
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[*] posted on 3-29-2012 at 03:01 PM


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Originally posted by vgabndo
Mt.goat:

Mine was the crew cab. (not this one but very similar!) I used it to haul top soil for the Chicano's People's Park under the freeway to Coronado back when my freak flag was flying.

I had two dirt bikes, and four days camping gear on board on the way to Laguna Hansen when east of Tacate I hit a cow in the dark.

1970.

I just thought to add, I OBVIOUSLY wasn't going very fast.:lol:

[Edited on 3-29-2012 by vgabndo]


cool rig!
classic VW beats a jeep any day anywhere!


I have gone to Baja driving both----but----the jeep sure got me more places than the VW. Yes, VW busses were amazing but you could get in real trouble FAST in the sand!!! Been there/done that!!! :light:

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[*] posted on 3-29-2012 at 07:09 PM


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cool rig!
classic VW beats a jeep any day anywhere!


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:!:Beats Toyota:!:




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[*] posted on 3-29-2012 at 08:54 PM


Ken parking at Walmart on a BAD day....;D






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[*] posted on 3-30-2012 at 07:23 AM


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I guess this is for another thread, but... IMO "Classic VW" beats Jeep only in nostalgia, and even then barely. It really makes me snicker to see guys trying to jam Westfalia vans into places they shouldn't be all because they think they look cool. Check my sig for my response to that. I don't need hemp shirts where I go...




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[*] posted on 3-30-2012 at 09:35 AM


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Originally posted by mtgoat666classic VW beats a jeep any day anywhere!



I guess this is for another thread, but... IMO "Classic VW" beats Jeep only in nostalgia, and even then barely. It really makes me snicker to see guys trying to jam Westfalia vans into places they shouldn't be all because they think they look cool. Check my sig for my response to that. I don't need hemp shirts where I go...


Awesome clip dude!






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[*] posted on 3-30-2012 at 03:29 PM


I thought you might like that, David. Your kinda place, huh? We've been some really neat places in that van and she's proven to be allot more than pretty paint and big tires. we have some big plans before it gets too hot to go to San Francisco de la Sierra for a week or so. We'll be camping up north of San Evaristo as well in the next few weeks.



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I thought you might like that, David. Your kinda place, huh? We've been some really neat places in that van and she's proven to be allot more than pretty paint and big tires. we have some big plans before it gets too hot to go to San Francisco de la Sierra for a week or so. We'll be camping up north of San Evaristo as well in the next few weeks.


Yup... You and I have the same idea of fun... You just have the luxury of bringing your home along with you! Art did the same with his 4WD motorhome on the Mision Santa Maria trip:




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I found the video from HB Murphy of us coming down the Widowmaker...





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[*] posted on 3-30-2012 at 04:45 PM


David, my son and I got a good laugh out of that video. Amazing! That van deserves a name (if she doesn't have one already!). It looks totally bulletproof. Does he have a battery bank on the frame rails?

Sorry but I got wicked pleasure from the old Chevy dragging a Toyota around.




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David, my son and I got a good laugh out of that video. Amazing! That van deserves a name (if she doesn't have one already!). It looks totally bulletproof. Does he have a battery bank on the frame rails?

Sorry but I got wicked pleasure from the old Chevy dragging a Toyota around.


I will let Art tell you ('edm-1' on Nomad)... He recently sold it as he already built a much bigger motorhome (4WD) with lockers front and rear!

Here is the next video from HB Murphy of 'The Bog' (which was worse for most than the Widowmaker. HB is in a 2009 Tacoma Off Road with A-TRAC and lockers front and rear, I was behind him with my 2010 Taco Off Road, and the others were a Dakota with a rear locker, an '03 Tacoma Off Road with camper, Art's van and a 4Runner with no locker (and that was the only one that needed a pull going in).





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[*] posted on 3-30-2012 at 08:23 PM


Best part was the wife's sound effects. "Ewwwww, it's muddy!" :tumble: Thanks for sharing!



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[*] posted on 3-31-2012 at 10:43 AM
The Next Day (Mision Santa Maria 2010)


Neal Johns pulled through the bog I:




Neal in the bog II:




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[*] posted on 3-31-2012 at 11:08 AM


It was probably mentioned before, but just where and how (widowmaker or bog, etc.) did Neal lose his diff, and was it the front or rear diff? Any more details on that?

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It was probably mentioned before, but just where and how (widowmaker or bog, etc.) did Neal lose his diff, and was it the front or rear diff? Any more details on that?

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Hi Barry, Neal made it to the mission fine (except for where the palm tree 'kissed' his camper)... It was on the way out, just before reaching the bog... his rear differential blew apart. He tried using just the front diff. biut that pop up camper is just way too heavy... and he has a manual tranny, as well... See the inside of his diff... with this photo from BajaCactus on the part 1 of my trip report page: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=46050#pid5202...




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