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Hose A.....
....Sounds like you met the Mexican counterpart to JR
Mom always told me to be different - Now she says...Not THAT different
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jrbaja
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David
I seriously doubt that I am peeing anybody off if they have an open mind. Obviously some don't !
And many of you u2u each other for support which is very similar to what I am saying about the gringo enclaves. Remember the chicken coop group ?
If some of you can't understand what I am saying or getting at, it doesn't come as a big surprise.
These are the people trying to write books or whatever on Baja without knowing much or giving diddly squat back to the Mexicans. (It's all about me,
right?)
And as far as me having narrow views Dude, take a look in the old mirror! I listen to all views and don't just make these observations or
statements out of boredom.
I make them because they are true. I live here and I am an american. I see what the majority of americans act like here on a daily basis and it
isn't pretty.
And I am not the one that coined the phrase "ugly american". That was somebody before me but I'm pretty sure they didn't come up with it because
they were bored either.
Now, as far as solutions, I wasn't quite ready to go there yet but since you are so impatient, ok.
Many of you think I am anti american. I am one! And I am not anti me. But, having been around other nationalities in real life, not just on cruise
ships or gringo enclaves but with the actual families, I have learned that these people have true happiness. It shows in their eyes and their singing
most all the time. I do not see this in americans. Any of them !
I have learned that we as americans are missing out on what many consider to be the most important aspect of life. True happiness. We may have
money and stuff but what it has done is cause us to be paranoid. We are afraid of getting ripped off constantly by our friends and neighbors no less.
And with good reason too.
And we are so caught up with making money, for some just trying to pay the bills but still, it is the primary focus of most of our lives. And
because of this, our society has lost time to raise our own children who in turn grow up without the love they need as humans.
Thus, the crime, drug problems, lack of quality education, and people that don't really have morals that are becoming more prevalent every day in
that country.
And, some of them are so narrow minded that they don't care what the rest of the world thinks. This to me is incredible but probably stems from the
reasons stated above.
I am trying to open peoples eyes to some issues that can be improved upon. Nobody is better than anybody else. We are all humans and we should
treat each other as such.
Perhaps if we learned to discuss things with each other rather than behind each others backs, some of the american paranoia would go away. If you
dion't know what I mean, oh well!
But, to ignore what I am saying and pretend that it isn't true means that there is a good reason for gringo enclaves. Safety from who knows what,
rumors?
Yes David, I do have many solutions which I also try to practise. Go out and show a random act of kindness to somebody you don't know.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Herb
if you do not think there are cutltural norms for acceptable societal behavior that ((differ distinctly)) between the US and Mexico
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I would like to hear about them. Tell us please.
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jrbaja
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I'll start,
Dating, Finding Money, Offering assistance rather than being afraid of strangers, Singing, Sharing, Interest in the rest of the world and their ideas
and accepting them, Family "closeness" and values, a true interest in education rather than just having to be there (school), a society where the
children can actually learn because they are all equal in school and wear the cutest of uniforms, People are safe to walk around at night, There is
very little crime unless it involves getting drugs to their northern neighbors, uh, let me think, I'll get back to you but as you asked Herb, I'm sure
he will have more and better examples.
Awareness is the key. Talking about it openly is step one in the mending process. Which is what this is all about !
Not just whining as David seems to think.
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jrbaja
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Oh yeah,
How they deal with their aging relatives and senior citizens
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JR
JR my Friend you are starting to sound like a very Narrow-Minded Southern Baptist Preacher!!!!!!.
The world is not perfect, Humans are not perfect, Baja and mexicanos are not perfect, Norte americanos are not Perfect.
As you Rant and Rave from your Pulpit , your message is loosing its Value! Step Back, take a deep Breath, say a Prayer or Two, and rethink just what
and how you are starting to Sound.
Jerry Farwell? Pat Robertson? Jimmy Swaggart?
Your Normal Good Works for the People you Like is getting Lost in your Bad Lanuage.
People are loosing Respect for you no matter your Good Works. If you would like People to Help you are going to have to change your Awful message.
You must learn that if you want people to Help in your endevor you can get "More Flies with Honey than Vinegar" !!!
Skeet/Loreto
"You have now been to the Woodshed"
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jrbaja
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Skeet
I am well aware that some people will be turned off by what I am saying. A blemish on the perfect society!
And these truths are just getting worse by being ignored. Most anyone who has spent time with un americanized Mexicans are amazed by their
happiness and honesty. I would think that you of all people would be aware of this.
I am not a preacher. Just a concerned ex citizen that has the juevos to not ignore problems and say something about it. Of course that will offend
some.
And if some of these people want to take it out on the health of a little kid it wouldn't surprise me in the least. That's part of the problem with
paranoia, they also need to "get even" no matter who is hurt.
No wonder nobody sings up there!
I will do everything in my power to help Aaron beside pretend I am someone I am not.
I believe in what I say and it is meant to open up some eyes, and possibly minds.
I'm not sure which part of what I am saying you disagree with but I have given it a lot of thought before posting especially at this time.
It's all about open discussion. For starters.
And, I never heard anything back from Dr. Habif. I emailed him twice with all the info about Aaron???
And, according to the number of viewers
to my rants, it gives us something to do
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Tucker
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Speaking of Aaron.....
Why was it necessary for the Rochins to cancel his Friday appointment, because of the lack of funds?
\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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jrbaja
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Actually Tucker
I have been in constant communication with the Rochins
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Tucker
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Very nice drivel...
You seem to have a
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\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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FrankO
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Wow! Will that get deleted like my post did?
[Edited on 10-10-2004 by FrankO]
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jrbaja
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Hey Q
I think you need to keep those deletion marks under 50 kb or something.
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Tucker
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I have done things to help! Have you?
\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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jrbaja
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Like I said
what I do is none of your business. I deal with the Rochins. Period.
And I deal with everyone else personally.
If you feel I can't be trusted, why haven't you offered to take over or whatever it is you have in mind. 2000 pesos isn't do do when it comes to his
problems. But thanks for that.
Have you even met the Rochins ? Do you even know their names?
What is your point other than trying to make me look bad? Are you actually doing anything besides saying that I am not?
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jeans
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
jeans:
Your dealings with JR must have been different than mine.
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Hose A:
Well, this is getting interesting with the exchange with Tucker. And I see that JR has already edited a response to him. Even he knew he?d gone too
far! I know & have met Tucker and can vouch that he?s a man of his word. He does what he says he will. (yeah, he can get a little peey at DK, but
me too!)
Yes...I agree with you about the apparent good deeds JR says does in the backcountry. Let?s say that earns him 10 points.
Then let?s subtract 5 pts. for his incessant bragging about it to build a ?I?m more human than you? platform.
You know the ?chicken coop group? comment after my post? That is his name for M, Georock & myself that he cooked up about a year ago. Every time a
woman expresses a strong opinion on this board, he labels them hens. I?ll subtract another 3 points for that.
And he once called M ?Just another Laguna N**ger?, subtract another 5 pts. Let?s see?what else? Oh?subtract another 3 pts for the U2U he sent me
telling me he would remove a post insulting me, IF I GIVE HIM MONEY for his alleged charities. Not one to be blackmailed, I terminated the thread.
Now?you?ll get a laugh out of this. I met a person at a business function in San Diego not long ago. When the person mentioned having a place in
Rosarito Beach, I asked where. The answer prompted me to ask them if they knew a man by the name of JR. Well, their smile disappeared, eyes widened
and they started sputtering beneath their breath the words A$$hole and son-of-a-b-tch and Pain-in-the ass. I was almost in tears I was laughing so
hard. I had to rush to explain that?NO, I was NOT a friend of JR?s? for I was immediately suspect. Nice to know his neighbors think so ?highly? of
him!
I could continue, but I?m bored now?. I?ve lost count on how far below Zero he is!!!
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jrbaja
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Pretty vague about your details there Jeans.
And if you will remember, I said that if you took some stuff down i would remove the post saying that the baja emergency guide doesn't do a bit of
good unless you speak Spanish. Another $$ making scheme by someone who has visited here a few times. You deleted the post, not me.
And the chicken coop group had nothing to do with male or female, and this thread now that tucker has attacked it , is a prime example.
Your alleged accusations are as full of it as your so called book. And what are you doing to help Tucker help Aaron?
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jrbaja
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Oh wait, you mentioned the neighbors.
hahahahahahahaahahaha. If in fact you did actually meet one of them, I have already stated my feelings on most of my drunken neighbors that come down
here. To their faces, not behind their backs or u2u messages to them. cluck cluck
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Tucker
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My first post on this thread.................
Speaking of Aaron.....
Why was it necessary for the Rochins to cancel his Friday appointment, because of the lack of funds?
Is that an attack, or what!!
\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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jrbaja
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Seems like it's
none of your business.
Why don't you ask the Rochins what's going on. I'm sure that if they feel like it is some business of yours, they will tell you.
Until I hear from Sergio, there's nothing really to say. Especially explaining things to you about them!
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JR, DID YOU REALLY
CALL ME JUST ANOTHER LAGUNA NI**ER?
jUST WHAT THE HECK HAVE i DONE TO YOU TO DESERVE THAT? aS A MATTER OF FACT, i EVEN DONATED SOME BUILING STUFF FOR YOUR HOME PROJECTS. wHAT GIVES
FRIEND? m
FROM JEANS POST:::
You know the ?chicken coop group? comment after my post? That is his name for M, Georock & myself that he cooked up about a year ago. Every time a
woman expresses a strong opinion on this board, he labels them hens. I?ll subtract another 3 points for that.
And he once called M ?Just another Laguna N**ger?, subtract another 5 pts. Let?s see?what else? Oh?subtract another 3 pts for the U2U he sent me
telling me he would remove a post insulting me, IF I GIVE HIM MONEY for his alleged charities. Not one to be blackmailed, I terminated the thread.
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