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And when using others research it is always a good idea to site the source so people don't think it is yours.
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"A disclaimer: my writings on this are based on quite a few books on the subject, each of which have variations in details, names, etc. of the same
events they supposedly recount. I go with what sounds most plausible, but keep the other stuff in mind always."
Sounds like the way I do my mission notes in presenting the history of them. Just when I think I understand the history of them, something different
will pop out and catch my eye! It makes a great hobby for me, the history of (Antigua) California! |
And it's always good to keep it in mind when discussing history with others, keeps one from being proven the fool too often. |
One thing I say when met up with hard noses about history: "none of us were alive back then, so anything is possible".
I liked Choral Pepper as she believed in writing about Baja and the desert to get people to go there... to make history (and going to the desert)
interesting so others will enjoy it... even season the details to attract others to seek out adventure!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
One thing I say when met up with hard noses about history: "none of us were alive back then, so anything is possible".
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Often the people who were there really were not aware of what all was happening. They certainly were not aware of all of the impact their actions
would have for the future----
And it is always important to site sources as they are the core of what is interpreted by the writer --- primary and secondary sources.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I liked Choral Pepper as she believed in writing about Baja and the desert to get people to go there... to make history (and going to the desert)
interesting so others will enjoy it... even season the details to attract others to seek out adventure! |
season the details????? Are these her words or yours. Sorry you think this is OK
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I liked Choral Pepper as she believed in writing about Baja and the desert to get people to go there... to make history (and going to the desert)
interesting so others will enjoy it... even season the details to attract others to seek out adventure! |
season the details????? Are these her words or yours. Sorry you think this is OK |
Sorry you don't..
They are my words, and they don't mean anything bad, like you think... it means to add more than just the black and white details, to add some color,
some interesting additional bits of history and lore. Myths and mysteries can have roots in known facts, afterall.
I have published some of Choral Pepper's unpublished chapters here for others to enjoy...
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rts551
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I liked Choral Pepper as she believed in writing about Baja and the desert to get people to go there... to make history (and going to the desert)
interesting so others will enjoy it... even season the details to attract others to seek out adventure! |
season the details????? Are these her words or yours. Sorry you think this is OK |
Sorry you don't..
They are my words, and they don't mean anything bad, like you think... it means to add more than just the black and white details, to add some color,
some interesting additional bits of history and lore. Myths and mysteries can have roots in known facts, afterall.
I have published some of Choral Pepper's unpublished chapters here for others to enjoy... |
No I don't think it is OK when publishing factual works. Not sure she did either. How much of your stuff is "seasoned" and how do we know what is
real and what is not?
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You know Ralph, there are people who are nice and give and help and share... most of the Baja Nomads fall into this catagory.... and then there are
other people who try and smear, put down, and detract from the good things found here.
Your following me on Nomad to make negative of anything I write is getting old.
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Stop playing the village idiot. I read most things on Nomad and when I read something that doesn't make sense, like distorting History, I call foul.
and actually DKIA, I try to stay away from most of the posts that you start.
But since you have something to say about everything, I usually cross paths with you.
Reread what I reacted to (Choral Pepper blah blah blah.) You make stuff up. and me reacting to that is not wrong.
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You know Ralph, there are people who are nice and give and help and share... most of the Baja Nomads fall into this catagory.... and then there are
other people who try and smear, put down, and detract from the good things found here.
Your following me on Nomad to make negative of anything I write is getting old. |
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Thanks, guys, for your support in boosting the numbers on what would otherwise be a long and boring article on the history of La Paz. Hijack away,
please.
All my postings should be so lucky!
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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An interesting painting by gunner W.H. Meyers aboard the USS Dale off La Paz in 1848 shows a grove of palms at what could be Manglito. Don’t see
others. A better picture of this painting is in Ed Vernon’s book “A Maritime History of Baja California”. In Ed’s book you can see the American
flag flying in the center of La Paz. The topography is pretty accurate and if out in the bay, about where the USS Dale was anchored in 1848, you can
make out parts of La Paz
http://www.bajainsider.com/baja-life/general-information/mex...
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No, no, rts551, I'm serious, keep it coming, please. There's nothing so lonely as posting some real long thing that I put some time and effort into,
and have it come away with three posts (I'm exaggerating here). I like seeing "24" or whatever it's up to now waaaaaayyyyy more--and I don't care if
it is under false pretenses!
[Edited on 4-26-2012 by Bajatripper]
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jack Swords
An interesting painting by gunner W.H. Meyers aboard the USS Dale off La Paz in 1848 shows a grove of palms at what could be Manglito. Don’t see
others. A better picture of this painting is in Ed Vernon’s book “A Maritime History of Baja California”. In Ed’s book you can see the American
flag flying in the center of La Paz. The topography is pretty accurate and if out in the bay, about where the USS Dale was anchored in 1848, you can
make out parts of La Paz
http://www.bajainsider.com/baja-life/general-information/mex... |
We have a copy of the painting in the family, I like to test my friends (both Mexicans and Americans) on what's out of place (the US flag). A
surprising number (to me) of people don't get it. Probably think it was the US Embassy or something.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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No, no, rts551, I'm serious, keep it coming, please. There's nothing so lonely as posting some real long thing that I put some time and effort into,
and have it come away with three posts (I'm exaggerating here). I like seeing "24" or whatever it's up to now waaaaaayyyyy more--and I don't care if
it is under false pretenses!
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No Keep it on track.... unless of course you have seasoned your details.
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No Keep it on track.... unless of course you have seasoned your details. |
At the risk of looking like I really am trying to run up the numbers...that was funny
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
No, no, rts551, I'm serious, keep it coming, please. There's nothing so lonely as posting some real long thing that I put some time and effort into,
and have it come away with three posts (I'm exaggerating here). I like seeing "24" or whatever it's up to now waaaaaayyyyy more--and I don't care if
it is under false pretenses!
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If it is numbers you want, Bajatripper, I am happy to contribute.
I love La Paz, and I love reading your writing about this fascinating place. I'm not a scholar, and have nothing significant or interesting to add,
but i do love reading your posts, and if my endless praise will help keep them coming, I will offer up my humble words any old time.
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And...to keep this HISTORY going: there is the old power station (now a residence) just up from (gag) Burger King. Kinda neat building.
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VIVA HISTORY!...I have loved & devoured it since I could read. I especially appreciate local and family history. The things
that still affect our daily lives, so long after the original event has become ..history.
Thanks for your exellent research and personal look into La Paz history, Bajatripper. It helps to put some faces & personalities on that special
Baja city and it's multi-charactered past.
p.s. to add: Just now reading more excellent history..."Killing Lincoln"...proof that history does not have to be boring. This book
puts the reader on the streets as the event happens. Give it to someone that loves novels, but hates non-fiction and let them discover how engaging
and important history is and can be.
p.s.p.s And...on this day in History, On April 12, 1955, researchers announced the recently discovered Suak polio vaccine was safe and effective and
it quickly became a standard part of childhood immunizations in America. In the ensuing decades, polio vaccines would all but wipe out the highly
contagious disease in the Western Hemisphere.
History...you gotta love it.
[Edited on 4-26-2012 by Pompano]
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There is never too much detail or too many facts when it comes to history... and just so we are clear, 'seasoning' history is like seasoning beef...
it is still beef, just easier to swallow. Now chicken-fried steak may be something else all together?? 
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And...to keep this HISTORY going: there is the old power station (now a residence) just up from (gag) Burger King. Kinda neat building.
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I have always loved the way that "house" looks. Reminds me of French Colonial architecture with its large porches. The city's first power plant was
located in the old Casa de Gobierno on the plaza (in the original building, what we see today is a reconstruction since the original was torn down in
the early 1960s as part of a "modernization campaign") and began operating around 1919. If I recall correctly, this building began operating in the
mid-1920s providing the city with electricity.
The old power plant of the city Jack mentioned
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There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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mil gracias Bajatripper for researching, compiling, writing and presenting this interesting history to us...not at all boring! I'm happy there have
been so many fascinating posts lately to educate the sandbox crew. I look forward to more of it.
[Edited on 4-26-2012 by shari]
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