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john/gerda
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karenintx
Read the post here from Karenintx,,,,wanted to say thanks for the in-depth and informative post...... j
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
This is perfectly legal because when you register your car here, you have to be in the car and the police check to make sure that you dont have dark
windows. While I was there getting my vehicles registered, I saw 2 people with razor blades removing the dark coatings so they could get their cars
registered.
So if you have dark windows, they have every right to pull you over. |
Yes, we are aware of the law...just making a remark on an observation.
The other day the Feds had set up a road block. Several gringos were handing out cold bottles of water to the guys. They would smile real big then
practice their English with "Thank You."
We are not bothered with the increase of police. Actually there is about 300 Feds living 150 yards from us. They have been very polite and friendly.
One of them gave us his cell phone #, how cool was that! Of course my hubby immediately called to see if it worked. Sure enough the phone started
ringing...we all laughed.
John/Gerda...Your welcome. Glad you found it helpful.
[Edited on 6-8-2012 by karenintx]
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thefishaholic
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Headin North
We passed 1 Federale bus and 3 Military convoy's (6-12 trucks loaded w.troops) today between Mulege and San Quintin.
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The rumors about USA plated vehicles being harassed and impounded in the vicinity of SJD and Cabo is likely due to the fact that Federal Police have
been harassing USA plated vehicles who entered the airport or the toll road, and surrounding regions, even those with correct plates, tags, DL and
based on no infraction. The Federal cops would stop every vehicle and claim the tags are wrong even when they are right.
These incidents were mentioned here. I experienced it as did others. The Feds use an intimidation tactic and threaten to impound the vehicle. Though I
do not know of them actually doing so ever.
The Federal Cop harassment of USA plated cars became so laughable, that literally the Feds were laughing outloud talking complete nonsense while the
tourists laughed back in their face.
This occurred while families were loading and unloading, in every case I witnessed, Feds made it clear, they just wanted to play games and hoped for
cash. Kids were crying, women were angry and it was a sad scene repeated daily.
We were always, very serious, polite, and refused the tactic as well as let them know they were seriously damaging they reputation of the region and
it would not go unnoticed.
It seemed so constant and idiotic that it had to be condoned and orchestrated and well understood that it was communicated to Federal Police time to
harass USA plated cars.
So sad, that so much nonsense occurs with these guys in Cabo, they hurt themselves, damage their reputation and fail to understand that people are
taking photos, recording video and do recall their faces, names, id and vehicle numbers and it hurts the reputation of Mexico, Cabo and the Federal
Police very badly-what a total joke. G20 may the be reason.
I had children crying as well as families and seniors, who lost all faith in the Federal police over the last year in Cabo. There is nothing more sad
than to see a child see that federal police are not good guys. More than once I witnessed parents explaining to children that these are not actually
the good police-these are fakes.
There is no surprise to the Gringo Gazette concerns. G20 has a bad rap, Feds have bad rap, Cabo has a bad rap. For those of us who live here and enjoy
Cabo, this is very very sad.
There is a solution, always stand up to police corruption, demand identification. Take photos, immediately write down all facts and publish it
everywhere. Take it as a serious offense to your well being freedom and right to transit. Call and write TV, news, radio and report your factual
experience here and everywhere and provide photos and video. Name names. Enough is enough with these criminals.
[Edited on 6-9-2012 by gnukid]
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Hot off the press from Discover Baja
Dear Discover Baja Members:
A member forwarded this important information to those traveling in Los Cabos June 12 though 20.
2012 G20 Summit in Los Cabos, 18-19 June 2012
The Group of 20 (G20) Summit of the world's twenty major economies will take place in Los Cabos, Mexico to discuss economic issues. It will be the
first such summit to occur in Latin America. The G20 comprises: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, India, Indonesia,
Japan, Mexico, Republic of Korea, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa , The European Union, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States
The Summit will involve crowds and heightened security:
1. The toll road will be closed from the 14th - 19th of June. This will be open only to those transporting delegations. Anyone who
needs to go to the airport will have to use the old route through San Jose Del Cabo.
2. The Convention center will be open for the G 20 summit.
3. All beaches including access to beaches from the Holiday Inn (Known before as the Presidente Intercontinental Hotel, next to the estuary)
all the way to Punta Ballena will be restricted from the 12th - 20th of June.
4. Highest concentration of Security will be in Cabo del Sol & Punta Ballena.
5. You must carry official identification with you at all times when in Cabo from the 12th on.
6. From the 15th until the 20th of June during the evening, there will be various events, concerts, movie screenings, ballet & exhibits at the
cultural pavilion located in down town Cabo. All functions are open to the public & free.
7. The Cabo San Lucas bay & port will remain open as usual until further notice -- possible closure on the 18th & 19th, but it is not
official.
9. All schools, hospitals & regular businesses will remain open, unless a decision is made by the actual institution.
10. There will be no boat traffic allowed east of Misiones del Cabo towards the Estuary close to shore, but further out at sea it will be open
for navigation.
11. This means that the popular snorkeling spots like Santa Maria, Chileno Bay & surf spots like El Tule, Acapulquito, the Rock & Zippers will
not be accessible from the 12th until the 20th.
12. The Cabo San Lucas FBO (MMLS) is where all private jets will have to arrive for any who are not attending the G20.
13. Be prepared to wait in traffic, so leave at least 30-45 min before your meetings or appointments, there will possibly be various check points
along the highway.
Be safe and happy,
Discover Baja Staff
Discover Baja Travel Club
(619) 275-4225
(800) 727-2252
(858) 458-0722 Fax
www.discoverbaja.com
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who goes to cabo at that time of year ???
if anyone goes to cabo or san jose del cabo at this time of year?? get a grip
!! I hope you like HOT !! K & T..
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
if anyone goes to cabo or san jose del cabo at this time of year?? get a grip
!! I hope you like HOT !! K & T.. |
I like it hot.
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bajajudy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
if anyone goes to cabo or san jose del cabo at this time of year?? get a grip
!! I hope you like HOT !! K & T.. |
Me too
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captkw
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HOT
HOLA,Myself leave april 1st and thats getting warm enough for me !!we all have are own comfort zones and thermastats !!
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karenintx
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
if anyone goes to cabo or san jose del cabo at this time of year?? get a grip
!! I hope you like HOT !! K & T.. |
There are lots of people that come to Cabo at this time of year...the planes are full. Guess they like it hot too! I probably don't like it has hot
as OXXO & Baja Judy but I can handle the heat. If not, I just sit in the a/c and look at the ocean through the patio glass door!
We have been lucky when going to SJD...as much as we make that trip we have never been harassed on the way highway, toll road or at the airport. Call
me crazy but as I drive into the airport I smile real big and wave to the Feds. Guess I am lucky. I have noticed the Feds pull over people with
Onappafa stickers...both Mexican and Gringo.
Last night while BBQ-ing on the patio we watch a couple of dozen Feds walking down to the beach with towels. Some got in the water while others sat
on the beach to watch the surfers. A few of them waited until after dark to start back up the hill. Good thing a couple of them had brought along
their flashlights. They were having a difficult time determining which trail to use to get back to the top...it was cheap entertainment.
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An important question!!
Do the cops have breathalyzers?
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These fed cops in the region of SJD would come up to the car saying "open container, open container? One empty bottle and everyone goes to jail." They
would demand to search to the vehicle, and really there are just trying to delay your trip to irritate you into giving them a donation. We say don't
look in the cooler, don't look inthe cooler, then they open it and one wiff and they turn.
There are occasional breathalyser checkpoints along the way in downtown and on the transpeninsular. More often on a weekend.
[Edited on 6-9-2012 by gnukid]
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Just say..
SSP cops are usually more professional than PFP who are most likely trainees. Both are policía federal, the latter have jurisdiction on federal
highways, marked "Cargo de SCT"
They as with every other cop have a right to search a motor vehicle.
They have a responsibility to do it professionally.
It is a delito grave, to solicit money or other recompense of any form. They can be canned and go to prison for doing so. This law is no longer a
joke. They mean it.
Drunk drivers should go to jail IMHO. Containers do not get popped inside a car for their air freshener qualities. SI TOME NO MANAJE is a good law, it
saves lives. Cars that get towed go to the corralon. Cars that have felonies against the driver go to the corralon federal.
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karenintx
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
These fed cops in the region of SJD would come up to the car saying "open container, open container? One empty bottle and everyone goes to jail." They
would demand to search to the vehicle, and really there are just trying to delay your trip to irritate you into giving them a donation. We say don't
look in the cooler, don't look inthe cooler, then they open it and one wiff and they turn.
There are occasional breathalyser checkpoints along the way in downtown and on the transpeninsular. More often on a weekend.
[Edited on 6-9-2012 by gnukid] |
Funny you should talk about the open container. Lots of our friends ask us to have "a cold one" waiting for them in the car. I always tell them
"Sorry I can't do that but here is what we can do...wait 45 minutes until we get to the house, sit at the Corona Bar (inside Terminal One) so you can
have a cold one or you can always take a taxi!" So far every one of them have waited 45 minutes for a cold one.
I do explain to them why it is not worth "a cold one" and they understand.
Thanks for sharing this info...maybe I should keep a stinky cooler in the car just in case I am stopped!
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People come to Cabo this time of year? Thank the time share people who have successfully sold 52 weeks of every room. Not to mention that as was
already mentioned, some like it hot.
On top of that, for many NOB, scholl lets out and it becomes a time for family vacations.
That said, the G-20 presents a double edged sword for Mexico. The revel in the publicity of being host nation. On the other hand, if, perchance, some
act of terrorism was to occur, it would provide a huge blemish on the image of Mexico.
Hence the huge lock down.
I mentioned it on another thread some time back. My understanding is that the convention center mentioned is the one on the Sheraton/ Hacienda Del Mar
property. There is really only a single access point to this convention center. So, I have to wonder if the hundreds of time share unit owners were
either banned from being there that week, or were warned that should the be there, they will become virtual prisoners.
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"My understanding is that the convention center mentioned is the one on the Sheraton/ Hacienda Del Mar property." This is not correct
There is a brand new convention center that has been built on the cuota very close to Mex #1. Right across from the Mega complex.
They actually turned the big yellow bow so it faces the cuota and have painted it purple, apparently the color of G20.
The highway between San Jose and San Lucas has been spruced up. Native plants planted in the median surrounded by white stones.
There must be 10,000 barrel cactus being used for landscaping. Jeez when we bought our's, they were $30usd each.
Today they were painting the curbs along the highway....by hand, of course.
[Edited on 6-10-2012 by bajajudy]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
These fed cops in the region of SJD would come up to the car saying "open container, open container? One empty bottle and everyone goes to jail." They
would demand to search to the vehicle, and really there are just trying to delay your trip to irritate you into giving them a donation. We say don't
look in the cooler, don't look inthe cooler, then they open it and one wiff and they turn.
There are occasional breathalyser checkpoints along the way in downtown and on the transpeninsular. More often on a weekend.
[Edited on 6-9-2012 by gnukid] |
What on earth are you talking about? I live here pretty much full time, I think you live in La Paz. In the last 6 years I have never seen a
breathalyser checkpoint anywhere in the Los Cabos area. Maybe they have them on New Years eve, but I don't go out then - either in Mexico or the US.
I probably go to the SJD airport as much as anyone on this forum. I have never been hassled by the Feds other than motioning me to move (they don't
even get out of their car) when I am double parked illegally waiting for someone.
I have been hassled by the La Paz police three times in the last two years on bogus charges. They wanted cash and I refused. They sent me on my way
when they saw I wasn't going to play their game. They are looking for "pigeons" who will pay up immediately and pay big.
It is very plain to see how rumors get started by people who don't even live in the area.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
There is really only a single access point to this convention center. So, I have to wonder if the hundreds of time share unit owners were either
banned from being there that week, or were warned that should the be there, they will become virtual prisoners. |
Totally incorrect information. As miamiga Judy says, the new Convention Center is off the toll road near Club Campestre in San Jose. In fact, a
friend is building a house at Club Campestre that is about 200 yards from the Center. He and his workers will have full access to the job site
throughout the meeting. I live at a development that is hosting the Russian delegation. I have full access to all facilities and I am free to come
and go as I please (with proper I.D.).
[Edited on 6-10-2012 by oxxo]
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Some of this info seems to infer that Mexico and the G-20 is akin to a tribal pow pow in the deepest darkest gloom of the Congo. Both the host and the
guests are acutely aware that they are in the glare of the world spotlight. There must be thousand reporters down there on their hands and knees every
morning praying that something bad, a real faux paus will happen so they can cap an exclusive.
You can bet the cops and the military tell their men that their hind end is on the line if they should be accused of misconduct. Mexican presidents do
not like to lose face. I mean they *really* do not like to lose face in the eyes of the world.
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Posted in the June 08 Baja Western Onion: | Quote: | G20 Summit Information Corrections - Lic. Julio Camarena Villaseñor, G20 Chancellor and the SRE's Oficial Mayor, was interviewed (bilingual) Sunday
June 3 on Cabo Mil's Los Cabos Now and made a specific point of refuting/correcting the widely-circulated information on the Lifestyle Villas blog
[written by Ali Ordonez, and quoted at the start of this thread] and reprinted in the June 5 edition of the Baja Western Onion. He was particularly
concerned regarding inaccurate dates, incomplete or distorted information, and hyperbole regarding beach closures.
The Camarena interview is available as a podcast at http://www.cabomil.com.mx - from the homepage go to the podcast page, choose June 3 from the calendar and the time 1900 / 1930. There is a slider
bar to advance the podcast. (As far as I know, the interview is not yet on the main podcast list.). There is also important information in the podcast
missing from the list, especially regarding the high security polygon from the Convention Center through to and along Paseo San Jose, San Jose's
beachfront boulevard.
Clarifications from the interview (Courtesy Baja Tips Weekly):
1. The toll road will be closed from the 15th – 19th of June. This will be open only to those transporting delegations. Anyone who needs to go to
the airport will have to use the old route through San Jose Del Cabo.
2. Some of the beach accesses in front of the hotels where the government heads will be staying will be restricted from the 15th – 20th of June.
Those hotels are One and Only Palmilla, Marquis, Fiesta Americana, Sheraton, Ventanas, Esperanza, and Westin.
3. Other locations with heightened security will be the Hilton, headquarters for the B20 (Businesses) and the Cabo San Lucas Cultural Pavillion
where the NGO’s will be convening as well as scheduled concerts and performances. From June 15th-20th, during the evenings, there will be various
events, concerts, movie screenings, ballet & exhibits at the Cultural Pavilion located in down town Cabo. All functions are open to the public
& free.
4. Highest concentration of Security will be present on June 17,18, and 19, from the new Convention Center off the airport toll road in San Jose to
the area around Hotel Barcelo, where the G20 headquarters is located, and around Hotel El Faro, the International Press Center.
5. All names of staff working at any of the resorts or who supply the hotels, need to fill out an accreditation form available at the Accreditation
Center at Hotel Mayan, or will not be allowed onto the premises. You must carry the accreditation on you at all times. This does not apply to
condominiums in those areas.
6. There will be maritime restrictions around the 7 hotels mentioned above, as well as Barcelo and El Faro. No maritime restrictions in Cabo San
Lucas harbor. No private planes will be allowed to land in SJD, but be directed to land in CSL airport instead.
7. All schools, hospitals & regular businesses will remain open, unless a decision is made by the actual institution
8. This means that the popular snorkeling spots like Santa Maria, Chileno Bay & surf spots like El Tule, Acapulquito, the Rock & Zippers
will not be accessible from the 15th until the 20th
9. Be prepared to wait in traffic, so leave at least 30-45 min before your meetings or appointments, there will possibly be various check points
along the highway.
Saludos, - Sabrina Lear, English Language Programming, Radio Cabo Mil 96.3 FM, loscabosnow@sabrinalear.com, (624) 145 7963, www.cabomil.com.mx |
Note there was a further correction from Sabrina to the above info: | Quote: | This line is incorrect:
"This means that the popular snorkeling spots like Santa Maria, Chileno Bay & surf spots like El Tule, Acapulquito, the Rock & Zippers will
not be accessible from the 15th until the 20th."
Lic. Camarena clearly stated in the interview that beach restrictions only apply to the official host hotels and Barcelo/El Grand Faro. Lic. C said
that the above beaches/surf spots and Medano Beach will not be affected and that all other beaches will be open unless they are at a host resort.
Thanks! - Sabrina |
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