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[*] posted on 8-22-2012 at 09:58 PM


Hi dt

Yeah,,your probably right, thanks for the heads up..:coolup:

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Nemo55, hopefully you will get a reply from someone who might actually be interested in helping you get your boat to where you are, unfortunately the Nomads forun isn't looking like that place. There are probably better places to look for what you need.....I wish I could help....dt
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[*] posted on 8-22-2012 at 10:02 PM


If you ask me to deliver your truck across country, I expect you to pay for maintenance :light::light::light::light:



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Would you say the same thing if it came to borrowing and using a guy's truck and trailer home, Are you saying that you'd bring his equipment back in whatever condition it ended up after you using it???
Somehow,i dont think so, and what i am expecting isnt much different.
But yeah,,i get your point about renting a charter vessel, however this situation is meant for those who want some open water adventure without all the Namby Pamby Rules and Regs of a Rental Unit.



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As to the condition of this vessel, i have no first hand knowledge, i trust the Previous owner when he tells me that aside from some minor issues, she is completely sea worthy.
and her Sails and Rigging are all in Good shape.

And Finally as to Insurance, she is uninsured at the moment, and as far as allowing someone else to skipper her, NOTHING in this life is completely free,,do you expect me to pay for someones Holiday (what i am offering) and Pay for the Insurance for the trip also??
There is not a Sane person afloat who would do such a thing.
In exchange for the use of my Vessel (no strings) i would expect the boat to be maintained and upkept, and insurance would be up to whoever skippered her.
(car rental agencies expect you to buy your own insurance, why is this any different?)


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Interesting post. As you now are undoubtedly aware, a foreigner buying a US documented vessel must "un-document" the vessel, because documented vessels cannot be owned by non-US citizens.
Sounds like you still might have paperwork issues to resolve. Your post brings to mind several obvious questions which must have interesting answers. You are obviously hoping to live a dream—as are many who are drawn to Baja:

Just curious, but why are you "not capable" of delivering your own boat? Presumably you bought a boat you felt you could handle.

Why haven't you ever gone to see the vessel? Doesn't really make any sense. A visa issue is mentioned?? Ensenada by land to at least see and inspect the boat is a very easy trip.

Your posts here say she is a 1979, and your "for sale" posts elsewhere for the vessel say 1975. Minor detail, but still different.

Is the vessel insured? Liability insurance? Deliveries are expensive and time consuming and come with a huge responsibility. When was the last time the vessel had a survey? How do you know the seaworthiness and condition of the rigging, etc. of this aging vessel?

Anyone interested will want answers to these questions and more.
Best of luck and I hope your dream comes true.


Dude,
I would pay for a well-equipped charter boat for holiday,... but delivery of someone's yacht that may/may not be ready to sail, well, that requires payment to me. Yacht maintenance and delivery is not a vacation.

[Edited on 8-23-2012 by mtgoat666]
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[*] posted on 8-22-2012 at 10:12 PM


I am offering the use of my Vessel for Three Months or More in exchange for delivery,,,I dont think we are on the same page here.
If you where contracted to deliver my Truck across country, i would expect you to arrive in considerably less time than Three months.
After which time if you damaged it, i would fully expect you to pay for repairs.

No Sir,,we are most definitely not talking about the same animal here....


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Originally posted by mtgoat666
If you ask me to deliver your truck across country, I expect you to pay for maintenance :light::light::light::light:



Quote:
Originally posted by Nemo55
Would you say the same thing if it came to borrowing and using a guy's truck and trailer home, Are you saying that you'd bring his equipment back in whatever condition it ended up after you using it???
Somehow,i dont think so, and what i am expecting isnt much different.
But yeah,,i get your point about renting a charter vessel, however this situation is meant for those who want some open water adventure without all the Namby Pamby Rules and Regs of a Rental Unit.



Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by Nemo55
As to the condition of this vessel, i have no first hand knowledge, i trust the Previous owner when he tells me that aside from some minor issues, she is completely sea worthy.
and her Sails and Rigging are all in Good shape.

And Finally as to Insurance, she is uninsured at the moment, and as far as allowing someone else to skipper her, NOTHING in this life is completely free,,do you expect me to pay for someones Holiday (what i am offering) and Pay for the Insurance for the trip also??
There is not a Sane person afloat who would do such a thing.
In exchange for the use of my Vessel (no strings) i would expect the boat to be maintained and upkept, and insurance would be up to whoever skippered her.
(car rental agencies expect you to buy your own insurance, why is this any different?)


Quote:
Originally posted by Marla Daily
Interesting post. As you now are undoubtedly aware, a foreigner buying a US documented vessel must "un-document" the vessel, because documented vessels cannot be owned by non-US citizens.
Sounds like you still might have paperwork issues to resolve. Your post brings to mind several obvious questions which must have interesting answers. You are obviously hoping to live a dream—as are many who are drawn to Baja:

Just curious, but why are you "not capable" of delivering your own boat? Presumably you bought a boat you felt you could handle.

Why haven't you ever gone to see the vessel? Doesn't really make any sense. A visa issue is mentioned?? Ensenada by land to at least see and inspect the boat is a very easy trip.

Your posts here say she is a 1979, and your "for sale" posts elsewhere for the vessel say 1975. Minor detail, but still different.

Is the vessel insured? Liability insurance? Deliveries are expensive and time consuming and come with a huge responsibility. When was the last time the vessel had a survey? How do you know the seaworthiness and condition of the rigging, etc. of this aging vessel?

Anyone interested will want answers to these questions and more.
Best of luck and I hope your dream comes true.


Dude,
I would pay for a well-equipped charter boat for holiday,... but delivery of someone's yacht that may/may not be ready to sail, well, that requires payment to me. Yacht maintenance and delivery is not a vacation.

[Edited on 8-23-2012 by mtgoat666]
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[*] posted on 8-22-2012 at 10:50 PM


Nemo, don't feed the trolls, it only encourages them to talk more smack. If there is anyone on this forum who it actually interested in helping you out they will send you a u2u message (look at the top of the page for it) otherwise you are barking up the wrong tree.

I think your offer is great for someone looking for a Baja adventure and knows what they might be getting into in the process. None of the people who have responded to your post (and probably nobody on Nomads) are that person. I wish you the best on finding someone to pilot your boat, it sounds like it might be a lot of fun. Please try to ignore the negative posts, they aren't going to be who you are looking for anyway......dt




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[*] posted on 8-22-2012 at 10:54 PM


Thanks dt
Understood, and happy to accept your advice.
Sorry guy's for stirring the pot,,entirely unintentional i assure you.

Best Regards
Alex

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Nemo, don't feed the trolls, it only encourages them to talk more smack. If there is anyone on this forum who it actually interested in helping you out they will send you a u2u message (look at the top of the page for it) otherwise you are barking up the wrong tree.

I think your offer is great for someone looking for a Baja adventure and knows what they might be getting into in the process. None of the people who have responded to your post (and probably nobody on Nomads) are that person. I wish you the best on finding someone to pilot your boat, it sounds like it might be a lot of fun. Please try to ignore the negative posts, they aren't going to be who you are looking for anyway......dt
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[*] posted on 8-23-2012 at 08:44 AM
NEMO55


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[*] posted on 8-24-2012 at 10:28 AM


Alex
Google boat delivery. You`ll find free listings for crews, captains , looking for deliveries and owners looking for full crew, like you. Yours is not an unusual request. There are other sites that charge a fee, but you receive only people who have had a background check, references etc.

With this economy, you should find someone easily.

Good luck.

Ps find someone who knows how to use the caps lock key :(




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