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Mula
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I know folks in BCS who had Trojan batteries that went bad.
They appealed to the company and it did take over a year, but did get 16 new batteries delivered to the restaurant on Mex 1 in front of their place.
This happened this spring - 2012, so Trojan will work with you - even in Mexico.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
agm batteries are NOT what you want for a solar application...
cars are a different animal
and my neighbors are having troubles with all the trojans
they are made in china not...not the usa
trojan does not stand behind their batteries either
someday there will be a better battery...using a different "water"
edit...also think about your voltage
if you use 6 volt batteries and have a 12 volt system
you only lose 2 batteries if one fails
if you have a 48v system and one dies
you lose 8 batteries
think ahead...it not if they die its when
you should never mix and match batteries even old and new same company same model batteries
[Edited on 9-13-2012 by Bob and Susan] |
I would have to disagree with you on the AGM's. I have been running
my whole house on 8 305ah Concorde AGM's for three years now and they have worked flawlessly and show no signs of diminished capacity.
IMO, the freedom to leave and not have to worry about watering batteries and the fact that they are always clean with no corrosion of the terminals
makes them well worth the extra money.
[Edited on 9-14-2012 by monoloco]
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Bob and Susan
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thats why they are working for you...you seldom use them
they'll die fast if you live here using them
as for trojan...
your friends were the ONLY people that got a replacement set
the rest of the 6 homeowners in mulege got screwed by trojan
they had a good battery broker that FOUGHT for them
the rest were left hanging
you know if you want "little problems" go with what works
batteries are a pain in the A**
if i had a choice i'd be on the grid in a milisecond
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monoloco
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Bob, I live here full time.
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bigmike58
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Bob, I live here full time. |
Havent you learned by now not to disagree with Bob...
Shouldn\'t one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check or Sec.8 housing?
........... I had to pass one to earn it for them!
\"I\'ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go?\"
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55steve
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Darn it Bob!
You should have let the engineers in on this tidbit of info. They could have saved billions by not installing the inferior AGM batteries as solar
power sources in all the cell phone towers all over the planet!
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
thats why they are working for you...you seldom use them
they'll die fast if you live here using them
as for trojan...
your friends were the ONLY people that got a replacement set
the rest of the 6 homeowners in mulege got screwed by trojan
they had a good battery broker that FOUGHT for them
the rest were left hanging
you know if you want "little problems" go with what works
batteries are a pain in the A**
if i had a choice i'd be on the grid in a milisecond |
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wessongroup
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bigmike58, that YOU in the avatar ...  nice shot ...
Again, very good "in field" information on batteries ...
What should one consider next ... I'm all ears on the other components required and recommended... which are being used in real time ...
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Bob and Susan
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i'm not right all the time...but...
if the road is washed out...and i saw it...i am right
if the batteries fail...and i saw them...i am right
if i talked to the guys working with them...i am right
if trojan screwed several homeowners in mulege...and i saw it...i am right
agm's maybe i'm wrong...but..i NEED to see a unit running without problems
vandium...the future in batteries...kinda like 4 stroke boats motors
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DavidE
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Whutzuh "Vandium"?
Vandium®?
Vanadium?
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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bigmike58
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
i'm not right all the time...but...
if the road is washed out...and i saw it...i am right
if the batteries fail...and i saw them...i am right
if i talked to the guys working with them...i am right
if trojan screwed several homeowners in mulege...and i saw it...i am right
agm's maybe i'm wrong...but..i NEED to see a unit running without problems
vandium...the future in batteries...kinda like 4 stroke boats motors
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Bob, I think you just might be right about always being right..
Shouldn\'t one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check or Sec.8 housing?
........... I had to pass one to earn it for them!
\"I\'ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go?\"
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Bob and Susan
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http://www.vanadiumbattery.com/
fuel cells are the future
i did spell it wrong...sorry...see im not ALWAYS right
davide i would have thought a battery engineer like you would know about these things
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ncampion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bigmike58
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
i'm not right all the time...but...
if the road is washed out...and i saw it...i am right
if the batteries fail...and i saw them...i am right
if i talked to the guys working with them...i am right
if trojan screwed several homeowners in mulege...and i saw it...i am right
agm's maybe i'm wrong...but..i NEED to see a unit running without problems
vandium...the future in batteries...kinda like 4 stroke boats motors
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Bob, I think you just might be right about always being right.. |
Just because you may have observed something once, does not mean that it is true always.
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willardguy
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maybe bob's lighthouse bulb is flickering?
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Geez Bob, I just had to have a bit of polite fun with it. Actually there's a bit of Fe thrown in but I'll never squeal.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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captkw
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"ooh my"
what can ya say ?? lol,lol anyone hear of a homelite 55........???
[Edited on 9-15-2012 by captkw]
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edm1
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Here the OP asks about Costco batteries and we end up discussing other batteries.
The 6 Costco GC2 batteries that I purchased a few months ago wre made by Interstate with the Costco "no question" 12 month replacement warrtanty.
Prior to that set I had 4 similar ones, and still prior to them, I had 4 of the Johnson Control ones.
In my experience with flooded batteries mgf by the major makers, i.e. they're not made in someone's backyard, the longevity and performance depends
90% on how they're cared for by the owner. Caring for a battery is not easy, it's not plug and play. It requires constant monitoring - charge,
discharge, water, cables, vibration, temperature, etc. watching for abnormal operation - overcharging, too deep of a discharge, dehydration, bad
cables, dirty terminals, high resistance, overheating. Any occurence of these abnormalities will shorten the battery life, most of them irreversible.
The longer neglected, battery's life is shorter. If you want your batteries to last longer, spend more time caring for them. Otherwise replace them
more often.
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captkw
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batt's
Caring for a battery is not easy, it's not plug and play. It requires constant monitoring - charge, discharge, water, cables, vibration, temperature,
etc. watching for abnormal operation - overcharging, too deep of a discharge, dehydration, bad cables, dirty terminals, high resistance, overheating.
Any occurence of these abnormalities will shorten the battery life, most of them irreversible. The longer neglected, battery's life is shorter. If you
want your batteries to last longer, spend more time caring for them. Otherwise replace them more often. [/quote...... HOLA,yep !! THEY ARE MOST OVER
LOOKED AND NEGLECTED AND MISUNDERSTANDED THING ON BOATS,RV'S,HOUSES !! AND WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY !!! WHY ???? BECUASE FOLKS ASSUME INSTEAD OF
SCHOOLING THEMSELFS ON SUCH MATTERS!! "SIGH" I CANT TELL YA HOW MANY TIMES A WEEK THAT I TELL A BOAT OWNER THAT HE HAS THE WRONG BATT(S) IN HIS BOAT
!! AND RECENTLY TALKING WITH A TECH. REP OF A MAJOR ELECTRIACL MFG. (CDI ELECTRONICS) WE HAD A GOOD LAUGH TOGETHER TALKING ABOUT BATTS AND CHARGING
SYSTEMS AND THE MISCONCEPTIONS OF THE AVERAGE LAYMAN...BTW WE JUST CALL IT A 12 VOLT SYSTEM....NOT!!! K&T
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wornout
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In my 15 years in San Felipe in a solar area, I started out with Trojans, they were good but didn't last in the heat.
Then I tried 105's, too many needed and like posted, when you lose one, you have to take another offline with it.
Then I tried Deka and have been running them the last 4 or 5 years, and I bought them used. They have been the best and are 12v Solar Batteries.
This Space Available, E-Mail Me If Interested.
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larryC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
Caring for a battery is not easy, it's not plug and play. It requires constant monitoring - charge, discharge, water, cables, vibration, temperature,
etc. watching for abnormal operation - overcharging, too deep of a discharge, dehydration, bad cables, dirty terminals, high resistance, overheating.
Any occurence of these abnormalities will shorten the battery life, most of them irreversible. The longer neglected, battery's life is shorter. If you
want your batteries to last longer, spend more time caring for them. Otherwise replace them more often. [/quote...... HOLA,yep !! THEY ARE MOST OVER
LOOKED AND NEGLECTED AND MISUNDERSTANDED THING ON BOATS,RV'S,HOUSES !! AND WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY !!! WHY ???? BECUASE FOLKS ASSUME INSTEAD OF
SCHOOLING THEMSELFS ON SUCH MATTERS!! "SIGH" I CANT TELL YA HOW MANY TIMES A WEEK THAT I TELL A BOAT OWNER THAT HE HAS THE WRONG BATT(S) IN HIS BOAT
!! AND RECENTLY TALKING WITH A TECH. REP OF A MAJOR ELECTRIACL MFG. (CDI ELECTRONICS) WE HAD A GOOD LAUGH TOGETHER TALKING ABOUT BATTS AND CHARGING
SYSTEMS AND THE MISCONCEPTIONS OF THE AVERAGE LAYMAN...BTW WE JUST CALL IT A 12 VOLT SYSTEM....NOT!!! K&T |
Capt,
If you talk anything like you write, then I bet you are a lot of laughs at a party, hope to meet you someday.
Larry
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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edm1
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On mixing and matching batteries
On mixing and matching batteries, why not, "older" or "newer" as long as you "match" them. Mix batteries with the same/similar impedance as well as
charge and discharging rate. And how can you tell? There are very affordable instruments out there, google them.
Doesn't make sense losing 3 or 5 odd batteries in a bank when one breaks down.
[Edited on 9-15-2012 by edm1]
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