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fdt
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Felicidades!
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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bacquito
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Great work, you earned it!
bacquito
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David K
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Thank you... There is a LOT of work in this, when there are two authors and we are having to keep tinkering with it, fixing typos, editing, etc.
I hope it is well received and you all find it useful, educational, interesting... That's the idea... condense all the various books to find the basic
data for each mission... so you don't need to (if you had the time) collect books and not be sure if the story is right... One thing is for sure, more
wrong things are written about the missions than right. I think people are excited when they come to a place were so much went on in such a remote
location... years of travel from their homes in Europe... why??
I would really like to promote history and Baja as an over 55 career, for me... 32 years in the dirt connecting pipes, tubes and wires does get old!
[Edited on 9-21-2012 by David K]
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pappy
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cool. back in the 80's i had lunch with the governor, mayor of ensenada, the police chief of ensenada, some top education officials and a few other
dignitaries. after that we went and played raquetball. quite a day for sure...
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by pappy
cool. back in the 80's i had lunch with the governor, mayor of ensenada, the police chief of ensenada, some top education officials and a few other
dignitaries. after that we went and played raquetball. quite a day for sure... |
Sweet times!
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Debra
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All the obsession with missions and you're not even Catholic, ever tell the tale of leaving a friend in the desert looking for the "lost mission?"
     
Really, congats. David I can feel your excitment and can't wait to read itl
Mean people suck!
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David K
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Thanks Debra... you can be my Catholic liaison when I take a copy to the Pope at the Vatican, okay? For His Holiness, we will have one pressed with
gold leaf!
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Debra
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Sounds like a plan, I'd be happy to do the intros. to his holiness.
Mean people suck!
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805gregg
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"a compelling new look at the mission system that settled California" now that's funny, I guess the Native Indians that were living there for 2000
years weren't settled? I hope the book mentions that the real reason for the missions was to make a land grab from the indians and turn them into
slaves for the missions all in the name of Jesus.
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
"a compelling new look at the mission system that settled California" now that's funny, I guess the Native Indians that were living there for 2000
years weren't settled? I hope the book mentions that the real reason for the missions was to make a land grab from the indians and turn them into
slaves for the missions all in the name of Jesus. |
While my co-author wrote that part, I will say we are providing the facts on the missions without any opinions as to right or wrong, that's up to the
reader to determine. Like it or not, the missions were built in California from 1697 to 1834, and that is what we cover in the book... We do give some
background on the conquest of the Aztecs and the rest of the Americas by the Spanish.
The real purpose of the missions was to occupy California ahead of the British or Russians and to provide a safe port for the Manila Galleons who
desperately needed fresh water and fruit on their way to Acapulco from Asia.
How the Spanish occupied California was by converting the natives into good Catholic farmers... from being wandering nomads who were hunter/gatherers.
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805gregg
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Just look at Mexico with all the graft and coruption and you can see the direct result of Spanish occupation. It would have been better for Baja if
the indians just drove them back into the sea from where them came. Right, good Catholic farmers working for the missions and ultimately Spain, most
weren't paid, just used. That part of Baja history is best forgotten like the abandoned missions. If it was for the Manila Galleons, why are most of
the missions on the SOC or the interior? The Manila Galleons allready had a west coast port at Acapulco, and since those boats were made for off the
wind, driving to windward to go up the SOC would have been out of the question.
[Edited on 9-23-2012 by 805gregg]
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David K
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It's the way it happened and by learning history you can avoid repeating those mistakes.
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senorj3
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Pretty awesome DK!!always have loved Baja since my folks started taking me in the early 70's. good luck with book sales and a second career !! I do
have been hitting my Knees cleaning pools for over 30 years!!!!
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David K
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Thanks Jim... I know what you mean about the 30+ years using your knees... for me, connecting irrigation lines, wires, etc.
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