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CasaManzana
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Even though we moved to Zihuatanejo.....
............when dining out here, we still compare Zihuatanejo restaurants to his great place. I hope when the dust settles that all agree there was
no foul play. RIP amigo.
Things are expensive, but at least we get a free trip around the sun once a year
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capt. mike
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this is terrible to read. Ray was such a friend to all. I can't imagine him gone. So sorry.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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motoged
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Sad story....a person can live without eating for several weeks....but not more than several days without water.
R.I.P.
Don't believe everything you think....
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by reneske
........ I think we all need to be mindful that none of us are perfect. Ray's was a wonderful host that made each meal you had at his establishment
memorable. May he rest in peace and my condolences to his family. I will miss him...... |
Yes, he was a good cook and host and he had another not so positive side to his personality.
I always find it a bit strange that when someone dies, it is time to forget parts of the person. No one is perfect, that is for sure, and the dark
sides are just as much a part of the whole as are the positive sides. Just my thoughts.
For his sake, I sure hope it was a heart attack that took him. DEP
[Edited on 4-29-2013 by DianaT]
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KurtG
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I think that uninformed speculation about Ray's death and innuendos about his life are highly inappropriate.
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Terry28
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Kurt, You can think what you want, but I knew Ray when he only had a taco stand south of Rosarito, In fact I was the one that encouraged him to
check out Mulege. He ran a great restaurant, no question....but to those of us who really knew him his passing is no surprise...he owed money to
quiet a few folks including me!! He was abusive to women ( just ask his past wife's) and was "on the lam" from folks in the Palm Springs area when he
hit rosarito,..He was not welcome back in the states...I don't believe this was an accident at all. Don't believe me,,,talk to Scotty at his
restaurant....He was a charmer for sure but there was a very dark side that not everyone got to see...Not trying to change anyone's mind just
providing more insight.....
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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Pescador
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Because Ray was my friend, I probably heard all the BS too, but for the most part it did not matter a whole lot in terms of my perceptions, and
sometimes he would confide to me that he found the negative spin stuff a little surprising and hurtful.
The thing that best explempifies Ray to me was one night while having dinner at the restaurant, I commented that things seemed a little on the slow
side and he did not have Licho Ortega playing music at dinner. In a light hearted joke I said that if things were really slow and he needed some
musical entertainment, I would be happy to play for free and he could keep the tips. He got a big smile on his face and asked if I would be willing
to play and sing for a fundraiser because the little church in the valley needed a new roof after loosing the old roof to a hurricane. I immediately
accepted and we had a full house of people from Chivato, San Bruno, San Lucas, Santa Rosalia, and Mulege. He took out enough to pay for the help but
no way covered his expenses for the meal and then gave the rest to the church for a roof. Not only did we get a roof put on, but replaced the
hymnals and most of the pews as well.
When we had the Yellowtail tournament last year, he was a large donor in the goings on and helped us do dinner and snacks for everything.
So, smaller minds than mine will continue to spin and paint everything as negatively as possible, but I will always have a warm place in my heart
for a good friend who always gave me more than he took.
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DENNIS
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Great euology. Thanks.
Ray is going to be a long time dead so maybe we should leave it at that.
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KurtG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Terry28
Kurt, You can think what you want, but I knew Ray when he only had a taco stand south of Rosarito, In fact I was the one that encouraged him to
check out Mulege. He ran a great restaurant, no question....but to those of us who really knew him his passing is no surprise...he owed money to
quiet a few folks including me!! He was abusive to women ( just ask his past wife's) and was "on the lam" from folks in the Palm Springs area when he
hit rosarito,..He was not welcome back in the states...I don't believe this was an accident at all. Don't believe me,,,talk to Scotty at his
restaurant....He was a charmer for sure but there was a very dark side that not everyone got to see...Not trying to change anyone's mind just
providing more insight..... |
The only opinion that I offered was that a public forum like this is not the place to hash these things out. As to what I think, I will keep that to
myself.
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mulegemichael
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...ray is gone...let's just leave it at that and remember his papagayos and calamari and big ol cuban smile...nothing that has transpired can we
change...ray is gone.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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chuckie
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Thanks Kurt, you should have kept it to yourself to start with...
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reneske
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KurtG
I think that uninformed speculation about Ray's death and innuendos about his life are highly inappropriate. |
I could not agree more. Thank you for your comment.
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reneske
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
...ray is gone...let's just leave it at that and remember his papagayos and calamari and big ol cuban smile...nothing that has transpired can we
change...ray is gone. |
I could not have said it better. Thanks, Michael......
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BajaBlanca
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There is a horrific rumor going around punta chivato (someone sent me an email) stating that Ray's throat was slit.
in which case, it was not hunger and thirst at all.
nor aheart attack.
and boy, was the newspaper article way off.
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motoged
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Rumours, innuendo, outright statements, and a ton of opinions...
Do you ever wonder what folks will say about you after you die?
We will all get our turn....
Don't believe everything you think....
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bigjohn
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Yes, we will.............
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chuckie
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What next?
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mulegemichael
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hoo boy, kids, do we really want to go here???...i mean....whoa??....enuf fer me, lemme tell ya altho i will always be lurking for the next
rumour...but hey, let him rest in peace now...we ALL loved his restaurant!...why dig deeper?
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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willardguy
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well so much for tiptoeing around it. 
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greengoes
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The Cats will be going back to the OT now.
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