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El Comadante Loco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
I know this theme has been beat to death on this board but here is my story:
On Sunday May 26 at approximately 7:45 pm I was pulled over by Mexicali Police only 4 blocks from making my turn into the border crossing lanes. I
almost made it. The reason for the stop, tail lights on the trailer not working. True, I knew that for a fact but I did not have a new set, tried to
fix them but to no avail. |
driving at night w/o working lights endangers everyone else on the road. really is no credible excuse for driving at night w/o lights! just don't
drive until you fix them! |
Running lights were on., right turn and stop light were not working.. I suspect a short some place in the wiring. Bulb was ok... This is not an
excuse just the facts...
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El Comadante Loco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
it is OK for me because most of the others are doing it.
sounds like a teenager.
Oh to be young again
I will tell that in my career I have been offered bribes or gifts and due to my lack of integrity I summarily refused them all.
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Bruce R Leech
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if you wont take them why give them. it dosent make it ok to be wrong just becalus you were right once
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
Integrity is a concept of consistency of actions, values, methods, measures, principles, expectations, and outcomes. In ethics, integrity is regarded
as the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of one's actions. Integrity can be regarded as the opposite of hypocrisy,[1] in that integrity regards
internal consistency as a virtue, and suggests that parties holding apparently conflicting values should account for the discrepancy or alter their
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At least, speaking of integrity, you should be giving your source of what you cut 'n pasted above, because it sure as hell wasn't you talking, Bruce.
And, while you're at it, try applying that booolchit to the police for a change, instead of the victim.
What the eff are you doing over there in Ensenada, Bruce? Teaching preschool? Quit talking to us like we're children without morals.
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[Edited on 5-27-2013 by DENNIS]
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Lee
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What a great story with a great ending. Too bad things aren't that easy NOB.
Senor Loco showed good form and negotiation skills. Looks like a win/win to me.
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norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
What a great story with a great ending. Too bad things aren't that easy NOB.
Senor Loco showed good form and negotiation skills. Looks like a win/win to me. |
What are you smoking, again? That happen up here you would want someones head.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
What a great story with a great ending. Too bad things aren't that easy NOB.
Senor Loco showed good form and negotiation skills. Looks like a win/win to me. |
What are you smoking, again? That happen up here you would want someones head. |
I'm guessing Lee knows of where he speaks.
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
That happen up here you would want someones head. |
If what happened?
Brake lights out? Negotiating the citation? The win/win?
I'm saying that the outcome for Senor Loco was a positive one. The LE officer even had a chance to escort a US citizen to the Border with his
lights on. AND he made some bucks.
I'm getting goose bumps thinking about it.
In fact, next time I roll through Tecate, the first cop I see I'll approach and ask if he'll escort me to the Border -- for some pesos.
Maybe Ciudad too.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
That happen up here you would want someones head. |
If what happened?
Brake lights out? Negotiating the citation? The win/win?
I'm saying that the outcome for Senor Loco was a positive one. The LE officer even had a chance to escort a US citizen to the Border with his
lights on. AND he made some bucks.
I'm getting goose bumps thinking about it.
In fact, next time I roll through Tecate, the first cop I see I'll approach and ask if he'll escort me to the Border -- for some pesos.
Maybe Ciudad too. |
Go ahead play dumb...you are good at it.
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CortezBlue
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Mordida works!
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Whale-ista
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Mordida dance
In all my years of living and traveling throughout the Peninsula, I've only been in this situation twice. Once was 30 years ago as a college student
in Tijuana. I was stopped for making an illegal lane change, and all of us in the car just paid the "fine" and continued on our way to dinner.
The second time was 10 yrs ago, while driving north into Guerrero Negro after leaving San Ignacio Lagoon. I was pulled over, supposedly for exceeding
the speed limit. Of course all the local drivers were going just as fast, but they were not stopped.
It was the end of the season, after Semana santa, and I was giving one of the whale watching guides a ride to San Diego. It was just the two of us,
both women, in the truck.
I handed over my drivers license, and the officer told me he would not give it back until I paid the fine for speeding. I explained I only had a few
dollars, which was true. After a week at the Lagoon. I barely had enough money for gas to get home.
I also forgot most of my Spanish.
First he threatened to make me go all the way to sta Rosalia to pay the fine. I countered, and offered to follow him to an ATM in Guerrero Negro. He
walked back to the cruiser, where his partner, who appeared to be older, gave him some advice.
This went on a few more minutes, and finally he got frustrated With my suddenly nonexistent Spanish, and gave up. he gave me back my license. We
proceeded on our way without paying the "fine".
I suspect he was a newbie to this experience, or maybe in the end he didn't have his heart in it. Or maybe he was just uncomfortable trying to put a
bite on two women, quien sabe?
I don't know if this strategy would work in every situation, But I was relieved it worked for us that day.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Martyman
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Look out! All the goody two shoes are riled up!
I thought baja allowed for crazies and rule breakers.
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dtbushpilot
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I've been pulled over several times in my Baja travels. I have to admit that I am usually doing something "ticket worthy", speeding, not signaling my
intentions, forgot to put on the new registration sticker etc. My policy is this: If I did it (and I usually did), I negotiate my best deal and ask
the officer if he would pay my fine for me at the station as I am in a hurry and would like to get on my way. They will usually do that for you.
If I didn't do it I will demand to go to the station to pay my fine....I've never been to the station, always let go with a warning.
You can take the high road all you want and nothing is going to change or you can work through the system as it is designed to work. This isn't the
US, it won't ever be, that's part of why I like it here.
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Bajaboy
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I got no problem with people paying mordida...I won't. But don't turn around b-tch about getting shorted at Pemex, robberies in your barrio, or
getting scammed....it is what it is....Mexico.
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dtbushpilot
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I'm with you bajaboy, I won't pay mordida either.
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Terry28
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No b-tchin in Baja!
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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Lee
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No b-tchn about no b-tchn in The Baja.
Every time mordida comes up the NOB post-morality crowd turns it into a holier than thou snipe.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
I'm with you bajaboy, I won't pay mordida either. |
I fail to see the difference.
| Quote: | ]Originally posted by dtbushpilot
My policy is this: If I did it (and I usually did), I negotiate my best deal and ask the officer if he would pay my fine for me at the station as I am
in a hurry and would like to get on my way. They will usually do that for you. |
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chuckie
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Seems to be one of them contradictions, dont it?
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
I'm with you bajaboy, I won't pay mordida either. |
I fail to see the difference.
| Quote: | ]Originally posted by dtbushpilot
My policy is this: If I did it (and I usually did), I negotiate my best deal and ask the officer if he would pay my fine for me at the station as I am
in a hurry and would like to get on my way. They will usually do that for you. |
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The difference is when I am guilty I am paying a fine, if I am not guilty I won't pay, that would be mordida...different circumstances, no
contradiction at all..
[Edited on 5-30-2013 by dtbushpilot]
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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