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capt. mike
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all they need to do is lower prices to market. They long ago wrote down the improvements. I think that was a load of laundry.... If i could get a fair
rate there and reasonable meals and no barring of ice chests!! i'd gladly fly in and stay a week.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Yeah, but the poor access to the hotel and all the other competition that has sprung up around it make it a bad investment, IMO.
It cant stay in business through Nomad-type people who are willing to drive there from the border or drive in from the nearest airport. And it sure
seems like general aviation to Mexico has been declining as a generation of pilots passes on.
Still, the Italian did nothing in terms of marketing to the US, Canada and Mexico that I ever saw. I seem to remember some ads directed at Europe, but
that's about it. It would take a concerted media campaign and a plan to get people transported there. |
Like the ad states. "12 miles of dirty road." 
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
If i could get a fair rate there and reasonable meals,... i'd gladly fly in and stay a week. |
what is fair and reasonable?
p.s. on my bookshelf i got a copy of "mexico on $5 a day"
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capt. mike
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something that competes with east cape resorts. As in Punta Pescadero for instance. Or one of the Van Wormer proerties.
$125 a nite for 2 with all meals.
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Bajahowodd
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The Van Wormer properties were dumps last I visited there. Don't know if they have upgraded. That said, the Punta Chivato property is in a much more
beautiful setting.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The Van Wormer properties were dumps last I visited there. Don't know if they have upgraded. That said, the Punta Chivato property is in a much more
beautiful setting. |
Wow, that is sad to hear------loved "Punta Colorada" Van Wormer property and stayed there many times about 10 years ago on his package deals-----a
real bargain.
Barry
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capt. mike
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Been a few years but Punta Colo was always a hit with us. They even let us go up to Bobby and Chacha's house across the road and use the pool.
I got to land at the strip in front of their resort at Los Barriles a year before the closed it. The developer of costa Azul in SJ del Cabo once
crashed his plane years before taking off from that Wormer resort in Barriles - shredded the plane, 4 pl Grumman, in a palm tree at the end and all
walked away.
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Hook
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I'd like to see them move away from that European plan or whatever it's called where they force you to buy your meals from them and it's built into
the price. I dont mind driving into Mulege or SR for an occasional meal and there are other food options in the immediate area (or so I read). I hate
eating at the same place, meal after meal. I dont care how good it is.
Of course, I'm sure they need that income and like the predictability of having kitchen staff available only when there are guests. Is the restaurant
open to non-guests?
Does the hotel have any water sports rentals like kayaks or canoes or some small fishing boats? Is there a panguero fleet there? You gotta provide the
clientele with some recreation options if you're all the way out there.
A basic courtesy dock would be nice.
Of course, the residents are thinking "....oh, please, no!!!!"
I cant imagine the rooms are much different than when I was last there in the late 90s. Maybe they have painted and upgraded the decor. Restaurant is
probably more capable IF they have good kitchen staff.
I might pay 75-80 for a double. It's a great location.
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capt. mike
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Actually Hook the renovations were quite spectacular compared to the old Punta Chivato Hotel when Bill had it. But you make good points. some people
like a destination all in one deal and want to simply park and not go elsewhere. At Punta colo and pescadero you can option the European plan w/ meals
- but both have no other close by restaurants so options are ltd. I found the food to be spectaular at east cape resorts plus we stocked our own bars
and food with room refers. The Posada PC is all about an areshole mgr.....
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Barry A.
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I and my friends loved the "all inclusive plan" at Punta Colorada and the couple of "free days" when you could grab a van and go any place you wanted
for additional money. At the price, the "plan" was just fantastic, we thought, and the commradity (sp?) and fishing competition between all the
guests at any one time was great!!!
We each have our priorities, and that system seemed to work for the Van Wornmer's as it was always full every time we flew down.
It was a long way from any distractions, and it WAS a Fishing resort, plain and simple. That worked for us and the fishing was always great or
adaquate.
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
Actually Hook the renovations were quite spectacular compared to the old Punta Chivato Hotel when Bill had it. But you make good points. some people
like a destination all in one deal and want to simply park and not go elsewhere. At Punta colo and pescadero you can option the European plan w/ meals
- but both have no other close by restaurants so options are ltd. I found the food to be spectaular at east cape resorts plus we stocked our own bars
and food with room refers. The Posada PC is all about an areshole mgr..... |
I really dislike all inclusive resorts but my wife loves them. I enjoy leaving the resort and taking the bus (or even renting a car or motor scooter)
to get out and see the town and eat where the natives eat.
Bob Durrell
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Whale-ista
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off the market...
maybe they accepted an offer?
Did 28 Nomads come up with a down payment?
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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windgrrl
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The Van Wormers closed Punta Colorada last season. They have interests in developing other areas of the bay.
Punta Chivato could be very interesting to the kite sailing crowd. It was a well-known windsurfing spot at one time, but we're a dying breed.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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capt. mike
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another good dirt strip gone........dang....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by windgrrl
The Van Wormers closed Punta Colorada last season. They have interests in developing other areas of the bay.
Punta Chivato could be very interesting to the kite sailing crowd. It was a well-known windsurfing spot at one time, but we're a dying breed.
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The problem with windsurfing at Punta Chivato was that the wind seemed to always blow hardest at night, then
get spotty during the day. Went there many times but never had an epic day. Camping there sucked, fine sand in everything.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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Doug/Vamonos
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We had some great times at PC in the 1990's. Great fun camping and hiding out at the hotel during storms and in the bar. We made some great friends
year after year. They loved our business and would cook our fish for a great meal. And cheap! Then the new people bought it. Yes, they cleaned it up.
But they treated campers like trash. Such a freaking attitude. Needless to say after our first effort to visit they never got our business again. And
they truly acted like they didn't want it. The problem with PC is it is in the middle of nowhere. If you don't come with a boat it is just a hot
desert. And if you have the money to afford to stay there, why would you? So many options at that price. Baja is Baja.
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