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J.P.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Well, there are times that you keep your opinion to yourself. Especially when it concerns a fellow Nomad who tries to make a living from tourism.
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Not concerning a Nomad, but read a post a couple yrs. back about my favorite breakfast/
dinner spot in San Felipe, going there for yrs., this post
by someone who would know, said his wife got Salmonella
(sp?) food poisoning there, not exactly sure what Salmonella
is, wish I never read it, I can't get myself to go in there |
quote 1. I would think you would be doing that nomad a disservice if you don't confront him personally and privately.
Quote 2. I read the same post and still go there. the disappointing thing for me about that place is my favorite waiter is no longer there.
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Bajaboy
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I enjoy reading the restaurant/hotel reviews...I kind of take them with a grain of salt.
BUT, I do take note of the hotels that allow dogs, though. The thought of sleeping in a hotel room shared by a mangy, flee infested dog the night
before is too much for me. If my cat can sleep in the back of my truck, your dog should be able to handle a night in your car.
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Leo
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All very senseable responses. Jesse's particularly is an eye-opener. Had no idea about the cost difference here in Baja Sur.
As for the original question and the one from Vnadenberg, Nomad or not, I would appreciate some fair review. Can work also to the advantage of the
reviewed, if he/she listens and improves. however for getting sick within 2 hours is hard to be judged on. 6 or 8, but even then, one has to be
careful to hang that on the food or restaurant.
The grass is always greener....
and so, there is always a better spot in Baja
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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
Quote 2. I read the same post and still go there. the disappointing thing for me about that place is my favorite waiter is no longer there.
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Interesting one would remember the same post, I would
never repeat the name of the place, out of courtesy to the
owner. Good advice I'm over it, going back. Along
the same line, took some newbies to San Felipe a
while back, having breakfast out on the HWY, the woman
we took down there, remarked 'do Mex beans always
with this', and held up a beer bottle cap, kinda funny,
owner very apologetic, didn't charge her for the meal
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
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Not concerning a Nomad, but read a post a couple yrs. back about my favorite breakfast/
dinner spot in San Felipe, going there for yrs., this post
by someone who would know, said his wife got Salmonella
(sp?) food poisoning there, not exactly sure what Salmonella
is, wish I never read it, I can't get myself to go in there |
There is a looooong wikipedia entry on salmonella that will tell you more than you would want to know.
I found this sentence interesting:
Most people with salmonellosis develop diarrhea, fever, vomiting, and abdominal cramps 12 to 72 hours after infection.
I think this is true about most food poisonings, though I'm no expert. But when a friend says I got sick from eating at Joe's last night, they don't
really know that it wasn't the breakfast at the corner diner that got them, or for that matter dinner at home the night before. And this is why I
think it is unfair to spread the word that a restaurant made you sick, because you probably don't really know what meal where caused the problem.
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Bubba
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
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Not concerning a Nomad, but read a post a couple yrs. back about my favorite breakfast/
dinner spot in San Felipe, going there for yrs., this post
by someone who would know, said his wife got Salmonella
(sp?) food poisoning there, not exactly sure what Salmonella
is, wish I never read it, I can't get myself to go in there |
There is a looooong wikipedia entry on salmonella that will tell you more than you would want to know.
I found this sentence interesting:
Most people with salmonellosis develop diarrhea, fever, vomiting, and abdominal cramps 12 to 72 hours after infection.
I think this is true about most food poisonings, though I'm no expert. But when a friend says I got sick from eating at Joe's last night, they don't
really know that it wasn't the breakfast at the corner diner that got them, or for that matter dinner at home the night before. And this is why I
think it is unfair to spread the word that a restaurant made you sick, because you probably don't really know what meal where caused the problem.
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You are absolutely correct here. Hanging a food poisoning accusation on a food establishment without being certain can cause a lot of damage to that
business....
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elgatoloco
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I want to hear all sides. If I ever have a truly negative experience in Baja I would pass it on, unless its just confirmation of what others had
already posted over and over and over. Same probably goes with the good stuff I read that I concur on. No need to waste bandwidth beating a dead
horse.
You never know with food poisoning. First Baja camping trip with the woman who became my wife we ate the same tacos de carne at the finest dining
establishment in San Vicente. She spent the first night camped in Cataviņa sick and did not feel very good until the second week of the trip and I
never had an issue. One of the millions of reasons I married her was the way she soldiered on when others may have wimped out and run for the border.
 To this day she can't ride thru SV without feeling a little hinky, and
no we never went back to "that" place. 
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grizzlyfsh95
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I enjoy reading the restaurant/hotel reviews...I kind of take them with a grain of salt.
BUT, I do take note of the hotels that allow dogs, though. The thought of sleeping in a hotel room shared by a mangy, flee infested dog the night
before is too much for me. If my cat can sleep in the back of my truck, your dog should be able to handle a night in your car. |
What he said!
The harder I work, the luckier I get
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I enjoy reading the restaurant/hotel reviews...I kind of take them with a grain of salt.
BUT, I do take note of the hotels that allow dogs, though. The thought of sleeping in a hotel room shared by a mangy, flee infested dog the night
before is too much for me. If my cat can sleep in the back of my truck, your dog should be able to handle a night in your car. |
Thats OK. My dog does not like flee infested people either.
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I enjoy reading the restaurant/hotel reviews...I kind of take them with a grain of salt.
BUT, I do take note of the hotels that allow dogs, though. The thought of sleeping in a hotel room shared by a mangy, flee infested dog the night
before is too much for me. If my cat can sleep in the back of my truck, your dog should be able to handle a night in your car. |
Simple for me. My dog doesn't like sleeping alone. And I never take a dog room because I don't like other dogs. And don't care if a no pet
policy is in place. I ignore it. Nothing personal.
And I like critical restaurant reviews. I only consider a review as negative when the reviewer doesn't know how to critique food and service.
Most ''negative'' reviews sound like they're written by cranky people.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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CortezBlue
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Trip Advisor, that's all you need
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I enjoy reading the restaurant/hotel reviews...I kind of take them with a grain of salt.
BUT, I do take note of the hotels that allow dogs, though. The thought of sleeping in a hotel room shared by a mangy, flee infested dog the night
before is too much for me. If my cat can sleep in the back of my truck, your dog should be able to handle a night in your car. |
Simple for me. My dog doesn't like sleeping alone. And I never take a dog room because I don't like other dogs. And don't care if a no pet
policy is in place. I ignore it. Nothing personal.
And I like critical restaurant reviews. I only consider a review as negative when the reviewer doesn't know how to critique food and service.
Most ''negative'' reviews sound like they're written by cranky people. |
I'm sure that all the people with
pet allergies will be happy to hear that.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I enjoy reading the restaurant/hotel reviews...I kind of take them with a grain of salt.
BUT, I do take note of the hotels that allow dogs, though. The thought of sleeping in a hotel room shared by a mangy, flee infested dog the night
before is too much for me. If my cat can sleep in the back of my truck, your dog should be able to handle a night in your car. |
Simple for me. My dog doesn't like sleeping alone. And I never take a dog room because I don't like other dogs. And don't care if a no pet
policy is in place. I ignore it. Nothing personal.
And I like critical restaurant reviews. I only consider a review as negative when the reviewer doesn't know how to critique food and service.
Most ''negative'' reviews sound like they're written by cranky people. |
maybe sleep with your dog in the truck
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Bajahowodd
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It Ain't Just About People's Tastes...
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Jesse. the problem with reviews on tripadvisor, this forum and the like, is that (as you point out in paragraph 4) is that everone has different
tastes. So what is good to one person may be horrible to another. |
I admit to reading Tripadvisor, But I do so taking it with a grain of salt.
The deck can be stacked by people on either side of the issue. Tripadvisor has no way to check who is writing the review, or if they ever even visited
a particular hotel or restaurant.
I had this same discussion with Jesse several years ago, as he complained vehemently that the number one rated restaurant in Cabo at the time, out of
hundreds, was a taco stand.
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Alan
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I was raised to believe "if you can't say something nice it is best to say nothing at all". Any business has so much riding on their reputation
now-a-days with the internet. One employee simply having an off night can scar that reputation for years and some companies may never recover
Welcome back Jesse!
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alan
I was raised to believe "if you can't say something nice it is best to say nothing at all". Any business has so much riding on their reputation
now-a-days with the internet. One employee simply having an off night can scar that reputation for years and some companies may never recover
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That would make reviews essentially worthless, almost every restaurant receives bad
reviews on a site like trip advisor, you just have to look at the number of bad reviews vs. good reviews and try and determine if there is some common
thread that would make you want to or not want to eat there.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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Bajahowodd
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Not specifically. You have to read between the lines when viewing a site such as Tripadvisor. Proprietors can post there anonymously, and can do so
from multiple e-mail addresses. They can pressure their customers to do the same. They can use their relatives and friends to stack the deck.
In connection with my discussion with Jesse a few years back, (he actually told me he was going to remove his Tripadvisor plaque by the entrance....
But, around the same time, the number one rated hotel on Tripadvisor was a place operated by a European ex-pat who was a criminal and a sex offender.
Some Pacenos know who I'm mentioning here.
This guy had zero scruples and got into some trouble for allegedly siphoning off funds for the local Cruz Roja.
The dump he was running could not possibly have been the top rated hotel in the La Paz area, but it was.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Not specifically. You have to read between the lines when viewing a site such as Tripadvisor. Proprietors can post there anonymously, and can do so
from multiple e-mail addresses. They can pressure their customers to do the same. They can use their relatives and friends to stack the deck.
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That's exactly why I think that negative reviews are more helpful.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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Bajahowodd
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I agree with you up to a point. Sometimes negative reviews can be coming from a very weird perspective. Remember that the world has its full share of
nut jobs.
Reading the reviews on a site such as Tripadvisor requires one to think about the reviews they are reading and the reasonableness of the complaint.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I agree with you up to a point. Sometimes negative reviews can be coming from a very weird perspective. Remember that the world has its full share of
nut jobs.
Reading the reviews on a site such as Tripadvisor requires one to think about the reviews they are reading and the reasonableness of the complaint.
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It's usually pretty easy to tell if someone's ranting or has an ax to grind.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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