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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 06:09 PM


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I'd hop the first bus to ensenada and soak it in cider!:lol:

... but that treatment will not work if you have ED :lol::lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 07:33 PM


Turning 60 soon. I had a outpatient surgery for my 'surfers eye' 6 years ago. For some reason I had a bad reaction (could be the same stress I always feel with medical issues) and ended up coding. They performed CPR immediately. I came back slowly, like a long tunnel. I could hear everyone and when Ied finally open my eyes there was a beautiful and dedicated nurse on top of me giving me CPR. I told them they were overreacting and they responded by throwing me in an ambulance. The ER doc's (cowboys) performed a cardioversion...worked for a few minutes. Spent three days in the hospital with another cardioversion that did not work. Over the next year I did the rat poison and sotolol. That was no fun. Due to the drugs the nurses had trouble finding my heartbeat for BP readings. My heart doc at the time performed one more cardioversion which worked for a while but did not stick.s Eventually I was referred to an A-Fib specialist. After several times of wearing a portable EKG they suggested I do a catheter ablation. Pretty cool procedure....done robotically. That was 5 years ago and I have been good since. Surf hard, dive, climb.....all that good stuff with no problems since. Very pleased to not have to deal with it any longer...in fact I generally forget that I ever went through that distressing time. Rat poison is a bummer!
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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 08:26 PM
Afib


After 20-30 years of Afib, finally got the approval for Ablation. Never had a missed beat in the 3 years since! I had to push Kaiser to have it done. They wanted to increase my drugs... Cardioversion is not the answer. They can paddle you and you can be driving home and Afib will kick in again. Push your doctors for Cath ablation!
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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 09:14 PM


I've seen both work...
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After 20-30 years of Afib, finally got the approval for Ablation. Never had a missed beat in the 3 years since! I had to push Kaiser to have it done. They wanted to increase my drugs... Cardioversion is not the answer. They can paddle you and you can be driving home and Afib will kick in again. Push your doctors for Cath ablation!
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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 09:17 PM


Let me tell you. I assisted in several eye surgeries at the Military Hospital in Ensenada. Because the surgery tends to affect the vagal nerve, I have seen almost every patient go into a slow heart beat in which the patient requires atropine from the Anesthesiologist. If they aren't on it, the patient can code.
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Turning 60 soon. I had a outpatient surgery for my 'surfers eye' 6 years ago. For some reason I had a bad reaction (could be the same stress I always feel with medical issues) and ended up coding. They performed CPR immediately. I came back slowly, like a long tunnel. I could hear everyone and when Ied finally open my eyes there was a beautiful and dedicated nurse on top of me giving me CPR. I told them they were overreacting and they responded by throwing me in an ambulance. The ER doc's (cowboys) performed a cardioversion...worked for a few minutes. Spent three days in the hospital with another cardioversion that did not work. Over the next year I did the rat poison and sotolol. That was no fun. Due to the drugs the nurses had trouble finding my heartbeat for BP readings. My heart doc at the time performed one more cardioversion which worked for a while but did not stick.s Eventually I was referred to an A-Fib specialist. After several times of wearing a portable EKG they suggested I do a catheter ablation. Pretty cool procedure....done robotically. That was 5 years ago and I have been good since. Surf hard, dive, climb.....all that good stuff with no problems since. Very pleased to not have to deal with it any longer...in fact I generally forget that I ever went through that distressing time. Rat poison is a bummer!
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[*] posted on 9-17-2013 at 09:32 PM


What I know now is...blood thinners are not a bad thing as drugs go. They are still doing research groups with heart ablations and drugbtreatment. No robot for my husband 2 ablations done 5 hours each with 2 cardiologist and nurses in a very cold room wearing lead aprons. Cardiogists are coming from around the world to intern with dr. Novak in victoria. The medical team was amazing. I was honored to meet them.
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[*] posted on 9-18-2013 at 09:40 AM
After Bite


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wput scotch tape on it and it DID relieve the terrible itch! still itched 2 days later.


We carry "After Bite" sticks with us in the vehicles and day packs. Rite Aid has After Bite for about $2.50 each. They look like a marking pen with ammonia being the chief active part. Works great on ant bites, bee stings etc. "Sting EZE" is another using phenol and benzocaine. Out in Borrego we get a lot of the large Mexican wood scorpions and several smaller varieties but so far we've seen them first.

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[*] posted on 9-18-2013 at 09:58 AM
missed a beat...or two


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After 20-30 years of Afib, finally got the approval for Ablation.


For years when I had work related physicals they would mention "You have a bit of arythmia (sp?)" but nothing more about it. So, didn't think much of it. One day I came home from the post office, felt light headed, than sat on the floor before I fell there. Next thing I knew I was in the hospital with enough tubes to be an oil refinery. I guess the part that controls heart rate can go haywire, way fast or way slow cutting off blood flow to the think box. Anyway, three and a half days hospital time then aspirin and metoprolol ... no probs since 2010. I was 64 when it happened.

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[*] posted on 9-18-2013 at 11:26 AM


It is up to the patient to convince his doctor (kiss their ass if necessary) to issue an Rx undergo a full heart inspection protocol. Chemical stress test, nuclear medicine confirmation that no part of the heart muscle has been deprived of oxygen. A sonogram inspection of the heart. Proof. Not assumption, guesswork, or No Bad Days ridiculous self deception. These tests WORK and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Afib is a MISFIRE, a misconduction of a nerve impulse signal. It is not CAUSED by a lifestyle. Sorry Charlita, an overwhelmingly high percentage of my relatives and forefathers suffered from Afib and not one, and we're talking maybe eighty or so people demised due to a cardiac event. ZERO. My cholesterol LDL is a little high in RELATIONSHIP to the HDL but the taking of a liver abusing drug to try and satisfy a nerd lab technician report ain't in the cards.

DRUGS ARE DANGEROUS to liver and kidneys. What does it take to convince a Mother Fletcher's Do It Yourself Chemistry Set Rx'ing doctor, otherwise? I would love to print up a hundred fluorescent stickers written in reverse that I can plaster on one of these "licensed" chemical Rx writing psychopaths that reads

RENAL & HEPATIC BENEFIT RISK RATIO
THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE

The idiocy I see in conventional medicine is discouraging. Got Afib? They won't include electrolytes in the labs request. But they'll probably insist on one hell of a dangerous drug AMIODARONE*. An MD who does not bother to ask a patient about their frequency and duration of afib events and off the cuff Rx's Coumadin, is a quack. You can bet your exhaust pipe this DM did not bother studying or even ordering a blood coagulation lab sample.

*Which is a freakin' genuine miracle drug to treat afib.

I had an IDIOT of a cardiologist Rx a maintenance 200mg BID Amiodarone protocol for me. I took the slip of paper and consulted with a (IMHO) talented Internal Medicine MD. "He's an idiot!" I shouted. "I agree he replied". He looked at me and remarked "Why do I always get the impression I am dealing with a fellow medical doctor when we meet?" I saw another cardiologist. That's when I discovered an electrolytes imbalance and shortage was causing 99.99% of my afib events, even though appropriate medications like Metopralol ER and Verapamil ER were being used. This is the same MD who suggested standard release same medications were causing a "ringing" effect in BP and pulse.

I know enough medicine to know when a lunatic is trying to push the equivalent of "Your Muffler Bearing Need Changing" on me.

What were the other two Norman Bates Grade Events that convinced me to be paranoid: Oh yeah, the inappropriate Rx of Isosorbide Mononitrate for treating anemia which was somehow overlooked in those 500 hundred dollar lab tests. All twenty three of them. Or the MD who called me and said "You have kidney failure". Three weeks of agonized waiting and a hundred mile trip to a necrologist who took one look at me me and said (no kidding) "WTF. If you have kidney failure I'm a man from mars!" Ya wanna know what the "Doc" said when I confronted her a few days later "Oops. When I was reviewing your labs my finger must have slipped down a line". Yeah, I did it. I went to a Stationery Store and bought a flat plate of white plastic. I returned to the clinic barged into her office and slapped the plate down on her desk blotter. "This is what you use when when tracing across lab reports!" I thundered. "Your finger is what you use when tracing down the page of a TV guide to find your favorite soap opera!" I stomped out of the facility to muted applause.




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[*] posted on 9-18-2013 at 11:35 AM


Nobody's perfect, David. Even Doctors. That is why it behooves the patient to know as much as he can about his condition. Any doctor who thinks they know more than a patient what works for him or her with a long standing ailment or illness needs to bring himself down a notch.
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It is up to the patient to convince his doctor (kiss their burro if necessary) to issue an Rx undergo a full heart inspection protocol. Chemical stress test, nuclear medicine confirmation that no part of the heart muscle has been deprived of oxygen. A sonogram inspection of the heart. Proof. Not assumption, guesswork, or No Bad Days ridiculous self deception. These tests WORK and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Afib is a MISFIRE, a misconduction of a nerve impulse signal. It is not CAUSED by a lifestyle. Sorry Charlita, an overwhelmingly high percentage of my relatives and forefathers suffered from Afib and not one, and we're talking maybe eighty or so people demised due to a cardiac event. ZERO. My cholesterol LDL is a little high in RELATIONSHIP to the HDL but the taking of a liver abusing drug to try and satisfy a nerd lab technician report ain't in the cards.

DRUGS ARE DANGEROUS to liver and kidneys. What does it take to convince a Mother Fletcher's Do It Yourself Chemistry Set Rx'ing doctor, otherwise? I would love to print up a hundred fluorescent stickers written in reverse that I can plaster on one of these "licensed" chemical Rx writing psychopaths that reads

RENAL & HEPATIC BENEFIT RISK RATIO
THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE

The idiocy I see in conventional medicine is discouraging. Got Afib? They won't include electrolytes in the labs request. But they'll probably insist on one hell of a dangerous drug AMIODARONE*. An MD who does not bother to ask a patient about their frequency and duration of afib events and off the cuff Rx's Coumadin, is a quack. You can bet your exhaust pipe this DM did not bother studying or even ordering a blood coagulation lab sample.

*Which is a freakin' genuine miracle drug to treat afib.

I had an IDIOT of a cardiologist Rx a maintenance 200mg BID Amiodarone protocol for me. I took the slip of paper and consulted with a (IMHO) talented Internal Medicine MD. "He's an idiot!" I shouted. "I agree he replied". He looked at me and remarked "Why do I always get the impression I am dealing with a fellow medical doctor when we meet?" I saw another cardiologist. That's when I discovered an electrolytes imbalance and shortage was causing 99.99% of my afib events, even though appropriate medications like Metopralol ER and Verapamil ER were being used. This is the same MD who suggested standard release same medications were causing a "ringing" effect in BP and pulse.

I know enough medicine to know when a lunatic is trying to push the equivalent of "Your Muffler Bearing Need Changing" on me.

What were the other two Norman Bates Grade Events that convinced me to be paranoid: Oh yeah, the inappropriate Rx of Isosorbide Mononitrate for treating anemia which was somehow overlooked in those 500 hundred dollar lab tests. All twenty three of them. Or the MD who called me and said "You have kidney failure". Three weeks of agonized waiting and a hundred mile trip to a necrologist who took one look at me me and said (no kidding) "WTF. If you have kidney failure I'm a man from mars!" Ya wanna know what the "Doc" said when I confronted her a few days later "Oops. When I was reviewing your labs my finger must have slipped down a line". Yeah, I did it. I went to a Stationery Store and bought a flat plate of white plastic. I returned to the clinic barged into her office and slapped the plate down on her desk blotter. "This is what you use when when tracing across lab reports!" I thundered. "Your finger is what you use when tracing down the page of a TV guide to find your favorite soap opera!" I stomped out of the facility to muted applause.
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[*] posted on 9-18-2013 at 01:45 PM


Well, how timely. We were just in san diego for Les's ablation. Second one. It was 2 hours this time and 6 hours the first time. He is fine and hopefully this is the last one!

Cardio versions did not work.

There is a new medication now instead of a blood thinner: prodaxa





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[*] posted on 9-18-2013 at 02:01 PM


Only a GOOD doctor could ever bring themselves to admit what you just said. A giant Saludos and Abrazos Ensenada Dr.

And good news about Les, Blanca! IMHO the less medicines the better. In the end, my kidneys may get me and it will happen because of all the medicines I was forced to swallow. I hope I do not encounter a real dumb---- on my next trip north. I have to try and convince them that opioids are the path of least harm in managing my disc pain. I feel the Tramadol AND the NSAIDS AND acetaminophen are stupid management, and I am too mean too get addicted. The last two doctors were astonished I could manage and control oxycodone and oral morphine. For many months at a time. I remember Dr. DeCastro shaking his head as he counted the pills (to verify. I was Rx'd 240 oxycodone and 90 oral morphine per Rx) and saying "You're one in a million". Not really. I just HATE the fuzzy headed feeling narcotics give me, and hate the constipation even worse. Give you a nickel for a new spine and ablation. The only gosh darnn pills I want to take are Vitamin C and Ginko Biloba so I can remember my name.




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[*] posted on 9-18-2013 at 06:57 PM
Polish medication...


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Well, how timely. We were just in san diego for Les's ablation. Second one. It was 2 hours this time and 6 hours the first time. He is fine and hopefully this is the last one!

Cardio versions did not work.

There is a new medication now instead of a blood thinner: prodaxa


Blanca,
Its 100 proof Vodka, kielbasa , piva, and a piece of home made black bread...polish first aid kit ~8^) Glad he is doing fine!!

Will be South in October unless the weather or calendar catch us.

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[*] posted on 9-18-2013 at 09:18 PM


I got bit, you know where, so I went to the doctor.

I asked him, "can you take out the sting and keep the swell?":yes:
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