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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
What a load of crap. Get down off your high horse and smell the roses. I’m too old to suffer fools espousing antiquated Reganomics and wagging the
flag of capitalism. The truth is that mega chains are NOT good for the consumer. With the demise of the mom and pop’s comes the demise of choice.
The local producer of hielitos or assorted nuts and snacks hasn’t a snowballs chance in hell of showing up in 7 come 11 or oooooxxo. If you are happy
with one brand of snacks and one brand of beer with several different percentages of water then you can see the future at your nearby oxxo. By the by
I never said anything about their right to build more stores. My point was that an oxxo would be out of place in El Triunfo and that additionally I
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Mom & Pops (and other businesses) either make the necessary business changes to survive or are replaced.
And if you don't set foot in an OXXO, good for me...you won't be in front of me in the coffee line
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David K
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Consumer choice not government control or non Mexicans telling Mexicans where to shop is what should be happening, right?
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
....Eggs-Actly what I mean......and as part of America, Canadians should be the last ones to talk about spelling.....like Color and Neighbor....eh???
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BG,
Uh....that would be "part of the Americas"...as there are three Americas: north, central, and south 
But I know you know that...
As for spelling....yes, we out here in the colonies still use the Queen's English. It is understandable that folks in the USA need to abbreviate
their words.... keeping track of all those letters can be time consuming and challenging....
Throwing tea into the harbour was such a world-changing event that it had to be celebrated with some sense of eunuch identity by tweaking the spelling
....I mean "unique"....
Now, the important stuff: We do have 7-11'a up here in the frozen wastelands....it would be great to have a few Oxxo's....just so I could get some
lime-flavoUred peanuts 
But it is a bit of a shame to see "progress" taint these small and wonderful pueblos.
[Edited on 9-23-2013 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
....Eggs-Actly what I mean......and as part of America, Canadians should be the last ones to talk about spelling.....like Color and Neighbor....eh???
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BG,
Uh....that would be "part of the Americas"...as there are three Americas: north, central, and south
But I know you know that...
As for spelling....yes, we out here in the colonies still use the Queen's English. It is understandable that folks in the USA need to abbreviate
their words.... keeping track of all those letters can be time consuming and challenging....
Throwing tea into the harbour was such a world-changing event that it had to be celebrated with some sense of eunuch identity by tweaking the spelling
....I mean "unique"....
Now, the important stuff: We do have 7-11'a up here in the frozen wastelands....it would be great to have a few Oxxo's....just so I could get some
lime-flavoUred peanuts
But it is a bit of a shame to see "progress" taint these small and wonderful pueblos.
[Edited on 9-23-2013 by motoged] |
Up the Rebels!!!!!
Would be glad to send some lyme, uh, I men lime FLAVORED peanuts (and a dictionary....lol) your way.....u2u me an address....
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J.P.
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There's a location in Ensenada where you can see THREE OXXO'S in your line of sight there is one directly across the street from another.
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
....Would be glad to send some lyme, uh, I men lime FLAVORED peanuts (and a dictionary....lol) your way.....u2u me an address.... |
Thanks....I have a dikshunary....but the peanuts can be sent to my gallery ....(I have a few....they are like my sea-shell collections.....they may
be found on beaches all over the world):
http://www.complex.com/art-design/2012/10/worlds-100-best-art-galleries/
 
Don't believe everything you think....
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Consumer choice not government control or non Mexicans telling Mexicans where to shop is what should be happening, right? |
It all depends where they're going to put it. I don't know about El Triunfo, but in Todos Santos, there are zoning regulations
requiring that anything built in the downtown historical district has to comply with architectural guidelines to maintain the character of the town,
which IMHO is a good thing, so it would actually be a case of Mexicans telling Mexicans what should be happening.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
Hey...
The do have great coffee in the morning! |
if you like liver and onion tasting coffee
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fixtrauma
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DANG
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BFS
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That really is a shame.
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Bwana_John
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My point was that an oxxo would be out of place in El Triunfo
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So... would something more appropriate like a stamp mill and smelter or a cyanide leach pit make you happier?
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Bajahowodd
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Oxxo is owned by Coca Cola de Mexico. Up until a couple of years ago, Coca Cola de Mexico also ownd one of the largest beer manufacturers in the
world. Their deal is to basically cut out the middleman.
That said, also a couple of years ago, a couple of major Pemex franchisees were persuaded to sign a contract with 7-11, a company located in Asia.
Those of you in the Ensenada area witnessed the transition from AM/PM to 7-11 a couple of years ago. It's all about the dinero.
That said, I really don't think that life in El Triunfo is going to Hades just because the folks there are going to be able to buy Coke, Michelada and
Takis that are not stale.
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bajagrouper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Oxxo is owned by Coca Cola de Mexico. Up until a couple of years ago, Coca Cola de Mexico also ownd one of the largest beer manufacturers in the
world. Their deal is to basically cut out the middleman. |
I believe Coca Cola and OXXO are both owned by Fomento Económico Mexicano, S.A.B. de C.V or FEMSA.....
I hear the whales song
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajagrouper
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Oxxo is owned by Coca Cola de Mexico. Up until a couple of years ago, Coca Cola de Mexico also ownd one of the largest beer manufacturers in the
world. Their deal is to basically cut out the middleman. |
I believe Coca Cola and OXXO are both owned by Fomento Económico Mexicano, S.A.B. de C.V or FEMSA..... |
It's the other way around, It all started with Cerveceria Cuahutemoc
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woody with a view
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ask a Philipino what takis means!!!
hint: it's twice as much as #1!
[Edited on 9-24-2013 by woody with a view]
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajagrouper
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Oxxo is owned by Coca Cola de Mexico. Up until a couple of years ago, Coca Cola de Mexico also ownd one of the largest beer manufacturers in the
world. Their deal is to basically cut out the middleman. |
I believe Coca Cola and OXXO are both owned by Fomento Económico Mexicano, S.A.B. de C.V or FEMSA..... |
It's the other way around, It all started with Cerveceria Cuahutemoc |
FEMSA sold Cuahuatemoc to Heineken but
retains 20% of the stock, they own 70% of CocaCola Mexico with the CocaCola corp retaining 30%, they own 100% of OXXO and just bought Doña Tota, which
is a restaurant chain. They seem to be a well run company and their stock has done very well. CocaCola Mexico is the largest CocaCola
bottler/distributor in the world, which is not surprising, as fond as Mexicans are of Coke.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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DavidE
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If the Mexicanos do not want it, it will not come or it will not survive. I can tell you for a fact that one of the worst traits a gringo can show to
a Mexican is one where the "Gringo Knows Best" or to put it more bluntly "The Mexicans Are Backward". If that El Truinfo Oxxo is not productive it
will close it's doors. It is a franchise. If it does survive it will not be because of gringo subsidization. If you have faith in Mexico and Mexicans
then you will know that aesthetics will sooner or later make its appearance. Until then there are a hundred and ten million Mexicans eager to shed the
image of being "backward" or "second rate" and this means "stuff" is going to happen whether gringos like it or not.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bwana_John
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My point was that an oxxo would be out of place in El Triunfo
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So... would something more appropriate like a stamp mill and smelter or a cyanide leach pit make you happier? |
... the things that attracted EVERYONE to live or visit there from its
beginning! Although, I hear the piano museum has its own fan base now?
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weebray
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My my, You merry pranksters have been busy since my last rant. I see that dumb and bummer are still missing the point. An oxxo in El Triunfo is
like a wart on the Mona Lisa. Anyone that thinks that an oxxo in El Triunfo would not be an inappropriate eyesore is, to put it bluntly, full of
chit. The people of Triunfo are predominantly not in favor of it. There are protests being planned as we speak. This is not one bit about
consumer choice, it’s about corporate greed and whether or not the people want it, the corporation will decide. Trust me oxxo is not going to build a
store that reflects the style and character of El Trinufo. They are there to sell COKE and contribute to the obesity of the nation. And don’t give
me that BS about us telling Mexicans what they can or cannot do. I have numerous Mexican friends living and doing business in Triunfo. I have yet to
meet one that supports an oxxo. Your simplistic view of the power and goodness of the free market is a fifties fantasy. Big business, Big government
and our all American armed forces feed us the pap they want us to suck. To paraphrase Orwell “all animals are created equal but some are created
more equal than others.” I also don’t give a rats ass if like oxxo so start another thread if you feel the need to spread the love.
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SFandH
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Most everybody understands the nostalgia for old Mexican ways and how they are lost to change. I like OXXOs though. The basics are there, even some
fresh produce and they are clean and efficient. Plus, I think, they provide some things the old Mom and Pop stores don't, and I'm not speaking of
goods. They provide good jobs, steady hours, benefits, and perhaps a retail career path. They also collect and pay sales taxes which public services
rely upon. Not sure what percentage of the Mom and Pop stores do those things.
For old Mexican ways I'll drive my PU onto the beach, set up camp, build a campfire, and drink some beers with friends while we gaze into the fire.
All of which are illegal in San Diego and most all of the US.
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