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From Dave Deal in Jimmy Smith's book:
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For a few years... this was THE LICENSE PLATE  
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
Actually it is an adjective. |
Maybe not, The bajajudy. "The" doesn't describe much.
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THE:
definite article
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(used, especially before a noun, with a specifying or particularizing effect, as opposed to the indefinite or generalizing force of the indefinite
article a or an ): the book you gave me; Come into the house.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Personally I use the term Baja California, but it doesn't bother me when someone says The Baja. To me it's no different than saying "I floated the
Salmon". In context, the listener surely knows the speaker's meaning. Yeah, I know, that may not be the case on this forum.  Someone's bound to ask, "Floated the salmon [note lower case] in what?"
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bufeo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
Actually it is an adjective. |
Maybe not, The bajajudy. "The" doesn't describe much.
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THE:
definite article
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(used, especially before a noun, with a specifying or particularizing effect, as opposed to the indefinite or generalizing force of the indefinite
article a or an ): the book you gave me; Come into the house. |
Strictly speaking, Dennis, a "definite article" is a form of adjective.
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DENNIS
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OK.....Call it what you will, but I'll call it what myself and Ed Tabor called it fifty years ago over a table of empty beer bottles at the Flying
Sportsman's Lodge in Loreto.
And, I'll call it what every person I met on journeys south before there was a road, rancheros and travelers alike, as few as there were, when it
would take us two weeks, at least, to make the trip.
You folks who want to call it "the Baja"...........call it that, or anything you want , but you're all Noobs to Baja.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bufeo
Strictly speaking, Dennis, a "definite article" is a form of adjective.
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Thank you, amigo Allen. I wonder if the Franciscans and Dominicans were are of that?
Correction appreciated, El Allen.
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The United States?
Germans always say ....let's go to "The" United States for vacation".
Let's go to "The" Baja would be the same use ?
So on and forth........
"Where are you from asked the Frenchman."....
I'm from "The" United States is replied.....
Why so so many say "The" United States? :-)
Hell....there are some that actually name an area in south SF as Shell Beach. That's not proper either.
Really......who da hell cares? Few.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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bufeo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS...Thank you, amigo Allen. I wonder if the Franciscans and Dominicans were are of that?
Correction appreciated, El Allen. |
Assume you meant "aware of that"...
And, Yes, there's only one "Allen"...just ask my wife. 
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| Quote: | | I think it is a California thing... like interstate 5 is called "the" 5 |
I think it proves the person saying "the Baja" either hasn't been there, or is a relative newcomer to Baja. I hate to say it, but it really irritates
me too...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
OK.....Call it what you will, but I'll call it what myself and Ed Tabor called it fifty years ago over a table of empty beer bottles at the Flying
Sportsman's Lodge in Loreto.
And, I'll call it what every person I met on journeys south before there was a road, rancheros and travelers alike, as few as there were, when it
would take us two weeks, at least, to make the trip.
You folks who want to call it "the Baja"...........call it that, or anything you want , but you're all Noobs to Baja. |
Just read this, well said.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
OK.....Call it what you will, but I'll call it what myself and Ed Tabor called it fifty years ago over a table of empty beer bottles at the Flying
Sportsman's Lodge in Loreto.
And, I'll call it what every person I met on journeys south before there was a road, rancheros and travelers alike, as few as there were, when it
would take us two weeks, at least, to make the trip.
You folks who want to call it "the Baja"...........call it that, or anything you want , but you're all Noobs to Baja. |
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Why do Californians need to identify interstates with "THE"...5, 8, 805, 15, 405...?
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by brewer
I think it is a California thing... like interstate 5 is called "the" 5 |
I think it proves the person saying "the Baja" either hasn't been there, or is a relative newcomer to Baja. I hate to say it, but it really irritates
me too... |
While I never say the phrase "The Baja" as in I am going to ...,
I do drop 'California' from it, as 'Baja' is just short for for Baja California.
To me, in the 70's and 80's, 'The Baja' was the short way to talk about a race... "The Baja" was short for the Baja 1000 or the Baja 500... "The Baja"
was my C.B. Radio handle back in those decades, too. It was also short for the Baja peninsula, as was said earlier.
The newer use of that term 'The Baja' was really something you heard from Canadians... and even I heard "On the Baja"... It is just a style of
speaking. British people say 'The Sudan' instead of just Sudan for the country in Africa.
We say 'The Congo' and The Yucatan (as mentioned earlier, too). The Sahara? I think that's okay, do you really need 'Desert' added? Baja is so famous,
it doesn't need California added!!!
Oh, as for the Jesuits, etc. ; BAJA was just 'CALIFORNIA'... Not until 1769, with the push by Spain to establish missions north of the peninsula was
there two Californias (Antigua or Old and Nueva or New)... eventually changing to Baja (Lower) and Alta (Upper) California... When we (USA) dropped
the ALTA, we basically forced Mexico to keep the BAJA attached to the peninsula... but IT WAS CALIFORNIA FIRST!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadock
Why do Californians need to identify interstates with "THE"...5, 8, 805, 15, 405...? |
I never say 'The 5', always I-5 or Interstate 5... and I was born here in (Alta) California.
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First World Problem.............
What's next, a discussion about who has the best iPhone case?
Just kidding, sort of.
Who cares what someone chooses to call it?
We all know Dennis has the last word on this stuff, as he's not a noob.
[Edited on 11-21-2013 by Ateo]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 55steve
Similar thing with the Sierras... it's the Sierra - NEVER plural
Boarder? Someone that rents from you - not something you cross
Center council boat? It's console dummy...
V haul boat - hull, you dork!
I actually am working on a list of common misused words - maybe I AM the miserable old man! |
I could care less!
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
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Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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An interesting conversation....seems like some folks have some ability to not be bothered by either use as they know what is being referenced; others
have some sense of ownership/entitlement to their terminology based on how many years they have been going to Baja California (you know....that
peninsula south of Sandy Eggo  ) and dismiss any application of logic or grammar
to their justification; while others realize that it is simply the horde of Canadians that filter down through united states on whatever highway has a
numerical designation that are responsible for this linguistic tragedy/ blasphemy...
No doubt the majority of us know how to get there and why we do it....no matter what we call the place. That's what really counts.
Don't believe everything you think....
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The motoged has spoken wise words.......
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
The motoged has spoken wise words....... |
Yeah....it's all the Canadians fault
They started it....and they just talk funny, anyways
Don't believe everything you think....
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