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really ok then you find the house for them. I am giving them a price range that I am sure of in Ensenada. I know a guy in Rosarito Bob Yourell and
he has a 3 bedroom TRAILER across from the buffet on the main street, and he pays $500 for a TRAILER. I paid $400 a month for a beach apartment with
2 bedrooms really small in Villas del Mar over 10 years ago. Of course all the recent crime in Rosarito might have driven the prices down.
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hey Andre, being from chicago you'll appreciate the utilities over on the pacific side also. I just paid my electric bill for two months. 147 peso's
or less than six bucks a month! the biggest expense is propane for cooking and hot water.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
really ok then you find the house for them. I am giving them a price range that I am sure of in Ensenada. I know a guy in Rosarito Bob Yourell and
he has a 3 bedroom TRAILER across from the buffet on the main street, and he pays $500 for a TRAILER. I paid $400 a month for a beach apartment with
2 bedrooms really small in Villas del Mar over 10 years ago. Of course all the recent crime in Rosarito might have driven the prices down.
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these homes are in baja malibu, plaza del mar and rancho santini.
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True the utilities are the best part. The question I have is how have you afforded Chicago? Certainly Baja is a heck of a lot cheaper than Chicago!!
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iOh I see. Baja Malibu is a good area, but the daughter will have to be driven to school to Rosarito proper. I paid $1200 a month for a condo in
Plaza del Mar over 8 years ago, so I guess the price has gone way down since then. That place is at least a 30 minute drive to Rosarito and about the
same to Ensenada as I don't think they have a school there. I haven't seen any of those condos going for $600 a month. Wasn't all that land of
Santini's bulldozed years ago and made into a private area? What houses of Santini are you talking about? | Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
really ok then you find the house for them. I am giving them a price range that I am sure of in Ensenada. I know a guy in Rosarito Bob Yourell and
he has a 3 bedroom TRAILER across from the buffet on the main street, and he pays $500 for a TRAILER. I paid $400 a month for a beach apartment with
2 bedrooms really small in Villas del Mar over 10 years ago. Of course all the recent crime in Rosarito might have driven the prices down.
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these homes are in baja malibu, plaza del mar and rancho santini. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
hey Andre, being from chicago you'll appreciate the utilities over on the pacific side also. I just paid my electric bill for two months. 147 peso's
or less than six bucks a month! the biggest expense is propane for cooking and hot water. |
You must read in the dark. 
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EnsenadaDr
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DENNIS no one has a state of the art Gorilla penthouse like you do. With all the heating you spend keeping him in a tropical climate, it's no wonder
your utility bill is higher. Oh yes the banana trees need artificial heat and light as well.
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I'm not sure I would call SF a resort area, at least not
in the same class as the Cape. As posted, mid June to
mid Sept., temps 105+, pop 12,000 perm?, the number of Gringos during
that time is far less than Winter. Ensenada is a large city,
just a guess pop 300,000 +,with all the advantages, would not say the scenery is
nicer than SF though. Ensenada climate much the same as So Calif.,
have heard of Gringo children going to school in SF, good ?
though as to your needed Immigration status to enroll them. Rentals
in SF not nearly in the # as Ensenada. There was a site
a couple yrs. back, of a younger family with children living
in SF, can't remember the name though. Living in Mex
sounds appealing and romantic to some, it sounds like
you have some research to do. I'm of the belief that you can
live in the US for what you could in Baja , at least close, there
are US places where rentals are in the $400 area. I'm guessing out of x number of US Gringos who are in your
position, w/kids, as opposed to a retired couple, I not sure
many more than a few would be in Mex for a long period, if
you have nothing
holding you in the US, give it a try, but I would go down
with the idea one can always come back
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Punta Banda has spectacular scenery some of the best I have seen especially from Dennis' gorilla house certainly neck and neck with SF, which is more
desert to be sure. | Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
I'm not sure I would call SF a resort area, at least not
in the same class as the Cape. As posted, mid June to
mid Sept., temps 105+, pop 12,000 perm?, the number of Gringos during
that time is far less than Winter. Ensenada is a large city,
just a guess pop 300,000 +,with all the advantages, would not say the scenery is
nicer than SF though. Ensenada climate much the same as So Calif.,
have heard of Gringo children going to school in SF, good ?
though as to your needed Immigration status to enroll them. Rentals
in SF not nearly in the # as Ensenada. There was a site
a couple yrs. back, of a younger family with children living
in SF, can't remember the name though. Living in Mex
sounds appealing and romantic to some, it sounds like
you have some research to do |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Punta Banda has spectacular scenery some of the best I have seen especially from Dennis' gorilla house certainly neck and neck with SF, which is more
desert to be sure. | Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
I'm not sure I would call SF a resort area, at least not
in the same class as the Cape. As posted, mid June to
mid Sept., temps 105+, pop 12,000 perm?, the number of Gringos during
that time is far less than Winter. Ensenada is a large city,
just a guess pop 300,000 +,with all the advantages, would not say the scenery is
nicer than SF though. Ensenada climate much the same as So Calif.,
have heard of Gringo children going to school in SF, good ?
though as to your needed Immigration status to enroll them. Rentals
in SF not nearly in the # as Ensenada. There was a site
a couple yrs. back, of a younger family with children living
in SF, can't remember the name though. Living in Mex
sounds appealing and romantic to some, it sounds like
you have some research to do |
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Lomas Del Mar in Punta Banda has 2 br casitas for around $300/mo and the elementary school is less then a mile from there.
[url=www.lomasdelmar.com.mx/]www.lomasdelmar.com.mx url]
My wife and I live there comfortably on $2200/mo
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Hey Bob great idea but from what I have heard about Lomas is they do a background check, credit check and want all kinds of documentation and legal
immigration status to rent there.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Lomas Del Mar in Punta Banda has 2 br casitas for around $300/mo and the elementary school is less then a mile from there.
[url=www.lomasdelmar.com.mx/]www.lomasdelmar.com.mx url]
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That school wouldn't even pass the babysitter test. It's a "Rural" school and it's only reason for existence is to satisfy the constitutional
requirement of an education for the kids. It's a good day when some of the teachers show up for work.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Hey Bob great idea but from what I have heard about Lomas is they do a background check, credit check and want all kinds of documentation and legal
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They couldn't care less about immigration status. They do however ask for a SS number to do a credit check.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Lomas Del Mar in Punta Banda has 2 br casitas for around $300/mo and the elementary school is less then a mile from there.
[url=www.lomasdelmar.com.mx/]www.lomasdelmar.com.mx url]
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That school wouldn't even pass the babysitter test. It's a "Rural" school and it's only reason for existence is to satisfy the constitutional
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Butch and Liz's nephew went there for 2 years and became fluent in reading, writing and speaking Spanish.
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I think the school near Lomas would be ok I checked it out before and the main purpose for the little girl would be to get her at least functional in
Spanish so she could later go to a private school if desired. The family will have to make a commitment to supplement their child but all Mexican
schools have federal grade level mandates to meet and it might be a poor school but the staff are competent, however the public school level of
English is sorely lacking.
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I live in Playas. My apartment is on the hill overlooking the beach. $350/month. There are schools everywhere in Playas, including private schools
in English. My novia works for CECTYS BC the prepartoria high school. There is one in Playas. All kids wear school uniforms. There are 2 sessions
per day 0700 - 1400 and 1400 - 2000. You will be in one or the other. There is high demand for school and MX public school cannot accept everyone.
Depending on how much or how little you drive, we could live well on a budget of $1000 / month in Playas ($350 for rent, $100 per week for food, the
rest for gas, entertainment, and clothing etc.).
One thing different between US and MX, in MX there is public transportation available EVERWHERE from busses, to collectivos, to taxis.
Clothing is more expensive in MX.
Oh and first run movies with subtitles are $MX 40 pesos.
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Sure wish you luck. Big decisions to be made! The most important thing mentioned is that you can always go back and no matter what school, your
daughter will become fluent in Spanish way before you adults do.
She can be the new English teacher...the kids will love her.
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Personally I think it is a bad idea. We love Mexico and have lived there permanently two different times for a couple of years each time.(Once on the
Pacific side and once on the Sea of Cortez.) Even though we love Mexico living there full time is much different than vacationing there. You will not
have a choice to push 1 for English and unless you're fluent in Spanish you'll find exploring housing and schools quite difficult. I just don't
believe the move is good for a 10 year old. At 10 she will want to spend time with grandma, cousins etc and participate in school activities. Our
experience is that Mexico is not any cheaper than many small towns in the US and in general the early year education system is inferior. (I agree that
some things are less expensive but in many cases they are less expensive for a reason.) You mention renting and trying it out for 6 months. That is a
good idea but in my opinion you will need way more than a week to explore the areas before deciding on the best location for you (and your dog) with a
satisfactory school for your daughter. Good luck.
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Jus tsaw this article
The Baja Times Newspaper:
Travel Baja California
with Steve Dryden
Ensenada: Mexico’s Rising Star
Ensenada is by far the most desirable and enchanting city south of San Diego, particularly for those who love the finer things in life to include:
fresh seafood, gourmet Mexican cuisine, high quality regional wine, culture, entertainment and good people. Historically, this quaint seaside port
town has been called the “Cinderella of the Pacific” but according to longtime community leader, business owner and resident, Jean - Loup Bitterlin,
it should really have been named the “Sleeping Beauty of the Pacific.” Ensenada’s time has arrived, in a fashion much like a young Mexican woman’s
quinceañera celebration. This blossoming and vibrant town has matured, awakened and is being presented to the world thus beginning the process of
courtship, discovery, exploration and relationship. The best kept secret in the region is now being exposed and this community is ready and waiting
with passion and commitment to prove their point. Life in Ensenada is great and getting better everyday.
Good things in a community just don’t happen by chance, it takes vision, leadership, faith, cooperation, determination, integrity and ethics. Two of
the many dynamic leaders in the Ensenada region are Jean - Loup Bitterlin and Natalia Badan. These unique residents have taken leadership roles in
creating a culture of awareness, appreciation, education, safety, security, economic opportunity and hope for the future for all its people. Both
Natalia and Jean-Loup walk upon a solid foundation built on family traditions of hospitality, creativity, social responsibility, independence, and
direct action. So, it’s no surprise that Ensenada shines so brightly with many stars illuminating the way to a bright and better day.
Jean - Loup is the owner of El Rey Sol, a local restaurant with a global reputation for quality gourmet culinary delights and five star service
supported by traditional Baja California hospitality, ambiance and romance. He and his mother, Doña Pepita, developed the formula for success in the
food, lodging and hospitality business allowing Jean-Loup an opportunity to apply this winning formula into creating that success on a community
level. Today, he is president of the tourism board and holds several other important community leadership positions. In a recent conversation I asked
Jean-Loup what he loves most about Ensenada and why he is so determined to guide its future. “It’s a well balanced town with a unique geological
location. We’re just seventy miles form the US border and a world away from the border issues and problems. We have so much to offer with an abundance
of fresh seafood, high quality regional wine, diversity in the culinary arts, museums, cultural centers and the highest number of Ph.D. degree
residents in Latin America. And, we’re blessed with perfect weather, a fabulous harbor, a pristine coastline and over ten institutions of higher
learning.”
Jean-Loup understands that in order to be successful and competitive you must sometimes reinvent and refresh your business and community. For
sixty-one years his family has managed to provide some of the best culinary delights in the region. El Rey Sol has been serving French, international
and Mexican culinary art since 1947. Today, the restaurant is being invigorated and uplifted with the addition of a new Chef, Juan Manuel Lugo,
formerly of Portofino Restaurant at Hotel Festival Plaza in Rosarito Beach. Chef Lugo states, “I’m here to take a great product and make it better
with the use of fresh ideas and new ingredients along with matching our gourmet cuisine with the abundant high quality regional wines.” To prove their
point Jean-Loup and Chef Juan Lugo presented an amazing culinary work of art to include calamari steak with nopales, cilantro, tomato, garlic and
olive oil - elegantly married to 2005 Chardonnay from Roganto winery of Ensenada
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| Quote: | Originally posted by AndreB
We (2 adults (45/65) and 10 yrs old girl w/black lab) are looking for an opinions about moving from Chicago to Baja, preferably to the San Felipe area
(close to US and easy to drive the car)...
We have the basic knowledge of the immigration requirements, but at the beginning we would like to rent something before any commitment.
We will have to live on the $2,500/month budget.
We know San Felipe and Cabos only as a vacation spots...
Obviously we have many questions but those are the most important at this moment:
1. Where can we find a school for our almost 10 yrs old daughter?
2. Where should we look for house for rent with electricity, water, sewer and internet access (we don't care about TV).
3. What is the total cost of living there?
4. And the most important - is it a good idea?
Any answer will be appreciated... :-)
Thanks!
Andre, Iwona & Kasia... :-) |
I'd never move to San Felipe. Give San Carlos on the mainland a hard look. Tons of Americans. Private schools, etc. A lot safer and more beautiful
than Ensenada.
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