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[*] posted on 4-27-2014 at 08:53 PM
Moving to Baja


We (2 adults (45/65) and 10 yrs old girl w/black lab) are looking for an opinions about moving from Chicago to Baja, preferably to the San Felipe area (close to US and easy to drive the car)...
We have the basic knowledge of the immigration requirements, but at the beginning we would like to rent something before any commitment.
We will have to live on the $2,500/month budget.

We know San Felipe and Cabos only as a vacation spots...

Obviously we have many questions but those are the most important at this moment:

1. Where can we find a school for our almost 10 yrs old daughter?

2. Where should we look for house for rent with electricity, water, sewer and internet access (we don't care about TV).

3. What is the total cost of living there?

4. And the most important - is it a good idea?

Any answer will be appreciated... :-)

Thanks!

Andre, Iwona & Kasia... :-)
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[*] posted on 4-27-2014 at 09:11 PM


go to the other side for the weather.
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[*] posted on 4-27-2014 at 09:24 PM


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go to the other side for the weather.

It's true that the year-round climate of the northwest Baja peninsula is some of the finest.

The schools may be better in the Ensenada area, too.

It's an unfortunate fact here in Mexico that the level of education isn't uniform throughout the country or even within each state's school system. The quality of education varies according to locale. Consider carefully and research the options for your child's educational opportunities in the various pueblos and cities throughout the peninsula.




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[*] posted on 4-27-2014 at 10:13 PM


I grew up in the Northeast obviously Chicago has almost the same weather and weather was an important factor in getting out of the area. San Felipe gets extremely hot in the summers and Ensenada stays pretty temperate and enjoyable much the same all year round. Both my children attended Mexican schools and both are fluent in Spanish. Both are very different, one is a very serious student and the other is a social butterfly but I think being bilingual is a plus. However attending public schools in Mexico will cause your child to be seriously behind in English grammar and vocabulary (assuming they speak English at home) unless you order age appropriate teaching guides for homework via internet or in book form, and the private schools have a good program but they are pricey. It is very possible to live on that budget but you will have to adapt to a serious culture difference and learn some Spanish here and there. Your kids might have to deal with being the odd one out for a while but kids generally pick up languages fast.
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[*] posted on 4-27-2014 at 10:21 PM


Is there any private school in Ensenada with English? Language is very important for us. Our daughter is bilingual already - we speak Polish at home. She is obviously fluent in English as well but for us English is a second language...
Obviously we are open to learn Spanish as well...
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[*] posted on 4-27-2014 at 10:35 PM


Yes the best school is Colegio Grecia for her age and is very competitive not only for English but for other subjects. I would suggest putting her in a public school for a year to get her adjusted to speaking and writing Spanish but maybe the administrators of Grecia might work with you on this. Expect to pay $250 american dollars a month plus the same as a registration fee and about $400 USD for books twice a year and another $200 for uniforms yearly They use the AMCO system which is excellent and teach all their subjects in English half the day and the other half in Spanish. The natural progression is to go to CETYS in 10th grade which marks the beginning of high school in Mexico but CETYS runs about $500 USD a month if not more unless your child is super smart and gets a scholarship.

another option is Colegio Unifront which has a good english program and is cheaper than Grecia but most of these schools are demanding in Spanish as required by the Mexican government by law it may require a lot of work initially but after a while she will learn by immersion.





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[*] posted on 4-27-2014 at 10:40 PM


I have family in both cities (San Felipe/Ensenada) and I agree Ensenada would be a more comfortable place. The weather and scenery is much nicer.

It also has many universities so education is a priority for many of the residents.
Agree that CETYS is a good choice for preparatoria (hi school), and has a good reputation. (My daughter attended CETYS)

It is a more international city being on the coast with a large commercial and recreational port. Historically, it's a blend of many cultures and nationalities.

You are only about one hour from San Diego versus two were three which might matter for shopping, Emergency healthcare etc. And don't forget wine region!

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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 04:43 AM


I think it would be very hard to to have a kid in private school and live on that budget. Maybe you could if you donīt have a vehicle, donīt travel, donīt eat out and donīt drink.
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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 05:28 AM


Family of 3 on 2500 mo....= $833 per person per month..........good luck. It can be done, depending on where u rent. Going to be tuff in Cabo area,don't expect lobster and cold beer too often.
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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 07:17 AM


Probably could get a house for $600 a month and an apartment for $300 USD. I suggest you put your daughter in a public school as I said for the first year just have her supplement her English with reading and online English activities. It's doable and if you need assistance looking around let me know.
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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 07:59 AM


In the summer it is so hot........in San Felipe. Though we have a place there....it's no place for the summer with a kid. The Pacific side has waves :light: and far more to do at night (nightlife). The Sea of Cortez side is great for outdoor sports.

San Felipe has all water and power in many communities......then not. Schooling.....cant say.

Seriously...dont drag your child to SF to live there...but make it your vacation destinations.

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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 08:13 AM


I also cast my vote for Ensenada as it has many more school options, lots to do, a vibrant mixed culture and passable climate. I have friends who raised their kids there and the children are wonderful and got into sports and surfing and are now completely bilingual and bicultural too.



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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 08:55 AM


La Paz is another option that you should look at. $2500/mo will take you a long way here and has all the infrastructure that you need.



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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 08:56 AM


I have a feeling McFez there is someone you would like to stick on a rotisserie in SF in the middle of the summer...
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In the summer it is so hot........in San Felipe. Though we have a place there....it's no place for the summer with a kid. The Pacific side has waves :light: and far more to do at night (nightlife). The Sea of Cortez side is great for outdoor sports.

San Felipe has all water and power in many communities......then not. Schooling.....cant say.

Seriously...dont drag your child to SF to live there...but make it your vacation destinations.
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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 08:59 AM


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Probably could get a house for $600 a month and an apartment for $300 USD. I suggest you put your daughter in a public school as I said for the first year just have her supplement her English with reading and online English activities. It's doable and if you need assistance looking around let me know.



At the beginning we would like to try with the 6 month Visitor Permit and see if this will work. I'm not sure if she will be accepted in the public school?

I'm still trying to add all numbers - $600 house? - in what location, condition? - is it doable?
Someone else above said it is impossible with the $2,500 budget. We will have obviously separate money for a house or condo to buy if we decided to stay, but we can not used this to supplement monthly expenses....
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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 09:06 AM


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Family of 3 on 2500 mo....= $833 per person per month..........good luck. It can be done, depending on where u rent. Going to be tuff in Cabo area,don't expect lobster and cold beer too often.


Unfortunately, i know you are right... in Cabo, but I am realistic and i know Cabo - been there several times... :-). This is the reason we were thinking San Felipe and now Ensenada (never been there before...)
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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 09:07 AM
Visit first


It may be difficult for you to travel, but the best way to find a place in your price range and location you want is to come down here and look around. I would also suggest you use that visit to check out the schools in the area and determine what their entrance requirements/costs are.

Some things are cheaper here and some things are more expensive. Depends on your lifestyle and how you can adapt.

Watch the airline sales (Southwest) and get a flight into San Diego and rent a car.....you will need about 5 days on the ground here

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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 09:08 AM


Dzien dobry! Moz muj jest z Polsky.

I think you will be fine on $2500 a month ...

Here is information on La Paz as we just arrived for a month vacation here a week ago:


http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=73372





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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 09:16 AM


Yes with an American birth certificate she will be accepted and they don't ask for legal residency status. There are plenty of houses for rent, in decent condition and apartments in that price range. Don't worry be happy!! Cabo is a premier destination and expensive, but Ensenada is quite affordable. You are not going to have an infinity pool in your backyard for that price but if you don't mind mingling with the locals and adjusting to Mexican life, you will be fine.
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Probably could get a house for $600 a month and an apartment for $300 USD. I suggest you put your daughter in a public school as I said for the first year just have her supplement her English with reading and online English activities. It's doable and if you need assistance looking around let me know.



At the beginning we would like to try with the 6 month Visitor Permit and see if this will work. I'm not sure if she will be accepted in the public school?

I'm still trying to add all numbers - $600 house? - in what location, condition? - is it doable?
Someone else above said it is impossible with the $2,500 budget. We will have obviously separate money for a house or condo to buy if we decided to stay, but we can not used this to supplement monthly expenses....
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[*] posted on 4-28-2014 at 09:29 AM


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Probably could get a house for $600 a month and an apartment for $300 USD. I suggest you put your daughter in a public school as I said for the first year just have her supplement her English with reading and online English activities. It's doable and if you need assistance looking around let me know.



At the beginning we would like to try with the 6 month Visitor Permit and see if this will work. I'm not sure if she will be accepted in the public school?

I'm still trying to add all numbers - $600 house? - in what location, condition? - is it doable?
Someone else above said it is impossible with the $2,500 budget. We will have obviously separate money for a house or condo to buy if we decided to stay, but we can not used this to supplement monthly expenses....
$600 house? listen, im living in a 3 bedroom 2 bath beautiful oceanfront home,600 bucks. just left a 2 bedroom 2 bath oceanfront that was $500. before that was a $600 brand new never been lived in 3 story home across the street from the beach. they're everywhere, don't let anyone tell you any different!:yes:

(all in the rosarito area)

[Edited on 4-28-2014 by willardguy]
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