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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
Seems to me...we are going backwords on this planet and the USA is getting like the N-zi's ruled |
When one considers that you can travel from London to Athens without a passport, if you live in an EU country, and only have to show a photo ID, I
agree that the US has gone crazy.
It stems from the phoney Iraq weapons of mass destruction thingy.
That war was designed to make money for the weapons contractors.
Saddam was once our ally. He maintained a very secular state in Iraq. Women were doing very well. In fact, Saddam had allowed the UN inspectors in,
but the thought of reaping billions of dollars for the military contractors made that situation something that had to be rectified regardless of the
weapons that did not exist.
Bush and Cheney are the primary reason why the middle East is in a shambles. They screwed with a mostly stable region and after years of war and huge
amounts of casualties and death, we are seeing the result today.
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David K
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Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful
nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?
Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.
We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world
BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.
What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out without maintaining a presence and the terrorist are retaking the country (and the oil
billions to pay for their resupply and renewed war on the West).
America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a
hostile region.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful
nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?
Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.
We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world
BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.
What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out without maintaining a presence and the terrorist are retaking the country (and the oil
billions to pay for their resupply and renewed war on the West).
America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a
hostile region. |
Ahem....zoo animals? and just how long do we maintain a presence? for ever? at what cost?
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful
nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?
Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.
We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world
BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.
What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out d war on the West).
America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a
hostile region. |
You really need to stop spending so much time watching Fox News and trolling websites like Drudge.
Saddam was once our ally, who we gave weapons to fight the Iranians.
Our declaring war on Iraq came at a time when Saddam had already allowed the UN inspectors in. Bush and Cheney (or should I say Cheney) did not want
to wait to find out that the UN inspectors could confirm there were no weapons of mass destruction. They had already counted the millions or billions
in profits that were to be made by their contractor friends. And not caring a whit as to how many lives would be lost.
Perhaps the sons of Saddam were not good guys. However, under Saddam's regime, a secular society, I might add, women in Iraq enjoyed the most freedom
and equality of any of the Middle Eastern nations, other than maybe Egypt under Mubarek.
Bush and Cheney lit the tinder of the fire you are now witnessing. There was no Al Queda in Iraq. In fact, Saddam was an ardent for of all the
religious zealots.
What is currently playing out throughout the Middle East is not much different from the wars between Catholics and Protestants centuries ago. Sunni,
Shi'a and some Christians all looking to carve out control.
If you really believe our invasion of Iraq was something good, then I have to conclude that you must have a huge anus that accommodates your head.
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So, you would have not stopped Hitler from murdering the Jews and other minorities in Germany either? Saddam was pure evil, and we saved countless
civilians in his country and others by stopping his dictatorship. That he was an ally before he invaded Kuwait matters not.
We were at peace with Germany before Hitler declared war on us, just after Pearl Harbor and Japan's declaration of war on us.
I am all for staying out of other country's business, but when they are raping and killing, and nobody else does anything or is able to do anything,
we as the greatest nation (or once greatest) are charged with the responsibility because that is who we are, the shining hope for freedom in the
world.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful
nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?
Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.
We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world
BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.
What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out without maintaining a presence and the terrorist are retaking the country (and the oil
billions to pay for their resupply and renewed war on the West).
America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a
hostile region. |
Dk,
You really should go over and hang out in the off topic. Your rabid conservatism and revisionist history would fit right in. you seem to have an
overwhelming compulsion to blather politics,... Come on over and join the OT peessingg match!
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 could the seemingly harmless baja mancave actually be the next unibomber cabin?
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David K
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It wasn't me who dug up Bush to blame for well about anything, first. 
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Well david. Maybe we will satisfy your urge to spend millions in more military spending on a country that does not want us there. We now have more
Navy in the area. Work harder and report your income. More missiles are needed ,(Ratheon, Tucson, needs your business)
I would like to hear your explanation of how the circumstances are similar between Iraq and the Second World War. Haven't heard too many people make
that comparison.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Iraq was saved from a brutal dictator... Young girls were pulled from schools so Saddam or his sons could rape them... Saddam invaded a peaceful
nation next door and ate the zoo animals and set thousands of oil wells ablaze... nice?
Please include more when you paint this barbarian as a good guy.
We gave Iraq freedom in much the way we gave it to West Germany after Hitler... and it remained stable and an economic power that benefits the world
BECAUSE we stayed long enough to keep it stable.
What is happening in Iraq NOW is a disgrace... we pulled out without maintaining a presence and the terrorist are retaking the country (and the oil
billions to pay for their resupply and renewed war on the West).
America spent lives and money to make a place better for all its citizens, and now we are throwing away our sacrifice and a briefly free republic in a
hostile region. |
Dk,
You really should go over and hang out in the off topic. Your rabid conservatism and revisionist history would fit right in. you seem to have an
overwhelming compulsion to blather politics,... Come on over and join the OT peessingg match! |
The very note that Goat mentioned, revisionist is so telling.
Does DK have any idea why over 4000 of our young, and tens times that of Iraqis should have died, when the war was created by our own military
industrial complex for the simple reason of profit?
I repeat. Saddam was, at one time, our convenient ally who we supplied with weapons to fight the Iranians.
Saddam may have been a dictator, but is dictatorship maintained a secular society in Iraq, and gave women the most freedom of any Middle Eastern
nation with the possible exception of Egypt.
If Saddam had remained in power, he would have likely been a strong ally against the Iranian nuclear program.
Bottom line is that Bush was a puppet and Cheney made a fortune prosecuting a fake war.
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