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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Reminds of a time in Tecate. Stopped at a liquor store and grabbed a sixpak of TKT Rojo. Went to the register and the man gave me the price.
When I asked him why it cost more two blocks from where it was made, than in Ensenada, he just looked at me and said, "It's fresher."
Somewhere in Mexico is a book of replies for every occasion. 
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And, unfortunately, since the major brewery consolidations, the Tecate one buys in the US is brewed in Monterey.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Who really cares? I know I don't. It is what it is.... |
Would you feel that way if it happened at a taco stand or the grocery store? Or is it just expected at gas stations. |
The price of gas is constantly changing in the US and I still buy it. I pay the price and move on. Today I put in 300 pesos at the stand here and
got 20.3 liters. I could whine about it or go enjoy a beer on the beach. Guess what I chose to do
[Edited on 7-1-2014 by Bajaboy]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
The price of gas is constantly changing in the US and I still buy it. I pay the price and move on. Today I put in 300 pesos at the stand here and
got 20.3 liters. I could whine about it or go enjoy a beer on the beach. Guess what I chose to do
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I'm guessing you chose to ignore the difference between sales at fluctuating prices, and thievery.
Funny thing, Zac...you don't come off as the corroborating victim type....'til now, anyway.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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bledito
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i hope you did tip the dispensing agent afterward, he probably works for tips and has no control over the pumps output.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bledito
i hope you did tip the dispensing agent afterward, he probably works for tips and has no control over the pumps output. |
Station attendants are paid.
That said...I never tip for sales. Only for service. Buying gas is sales...not service.
Washing a windshield is service.
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Chupacabra
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I've always found the Pemex in Santo Tomas south of Maneadero to be suspect. I never quantified the amounts but a fillup seems a bit more there...
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by bledito
i hope you did tip the dispensing agent afterward, he probably works for tips and has no control over the pumps output. |
Station attendants are paid.
That said...I never tip for sales. Only for service. Buying gas is sales...not service.
Washing a windshield is service. |
It's your right not to tip. Personally, I think you're cheap.
Mother Teresa said give until it hurts. That's not you.
Like some here who get stuck on being ripped off -- nobody likes being ripped off -- some Pemex stations rip people, MX and gringoes alike. Don't
buy there if it bothers you. I consider it the price of doing business -- and plan around not buying gas in Pescadero since I read they short
people.
But I do get gas there if I'm going to Cabo and need gas. And because I know some of the attendants there, I tip them whether they wash my windows
or not. Pumping gas is a service I appreciate. And I do consider it a service.
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BajaRat
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Buy fuel in the early morning hours when it has expanded the least
I'm sure the under ground tanks temps are pretty stable though. The old Pemex in Viscaino has above ground tanks which expansion has to be considered.
[Edited on 7-2-2014 by BajaRat]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Station attendants are paid.
That said...I never tip for sales. Only for service. Buying gas is sales...not service.
Washing a windshield is service. |
It's your right not to tip. Personally, I think you're cheap.
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I said, I tip for service. Isn't that what it's all about?
If you feel so effing superior [and judging from your noblese oblige attitude, you do] that you have to go all over Mexico giving gifts to everybody
below your station in life...have at it, but I'm not cheap.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Pumping gas is a service I appreciate. And I do consider it a service. |
Boolcrap, Lee. It's sales and nothing else. Have the station owner find another way to deliver the goods he sells if he has to put on an apron to
fill your tank.
It must be head swelling for you to be such an effing savior...you and Mother Theresa.
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[Edited on 7-2-2014 by DENNIS]
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chuckie
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Complaining about Short liters, pump scams etc is a tradition in Baja, Have a cold Pacifico and carry on.....Life is way too short to knot your
knickers over stuff like that..
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Lee
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Station attendants are paid.
That said...I never tip for sales. Only for service. Buying gas is sales...not service.
Washing a windshield is service. |
It's your right not to tip. Personally, I think you're cheap.
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I said, I tip for service. Isn't that what it's all about?
If you feel so effing superior [and judging from your noblese oblige attitude, you do] that you have to go all over Mexico giving gifts to everybody
below your station in life...have at it, but I'm not cheap. |
We've had this conversation before, Dennis. I call pumping gas service and you don't. Never said anyone is beneath me. Make it up as you go
along, OK?
I'm not superior to you if that's what you're referring to. And you're not alone here because there are other's like you.
Cheap, and emotional. Justify it however you want. You probably short the bag boy at the mercado.
Not a problem for me.
Take a lesson from BillM. He once wrote an enlightened response to tipping, and generosity.
After all, it is about generosity, isn't it.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
After all, it is about generosity, isn't it.
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Giving gifts, only because you have it, does more damage to one's initiative than you even realize. All you have to do, Lee, is look at our own
welfare policies, or the forever unemployment situation.
Be the big gringo Santa Claus if that's what makes it hard for you, but don't call sales a service.
And, don't feel for a second that your beneficiaries see you as anything but a stupid, rich American with a bag of money just because that's how you
act.
And...don't call me cheap.
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[Edited on 7-2-2014 by DENNIS]
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BajaRat
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
After all, it is about generosity, isn't it.
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Giving gifts, only because you have it, does more damage to one's initiative than you even realize. All you have to do, Lee, is look at our own
welfare policies, or the forever unemployment situation.
Be the big gringo Santa Claus if that's what makes it hard for you, but don't call sales a service.
And, don't feel for a second that your beneficiaries see you as anything but a stupid, rich American with a bag of money just because that's how you
act.
And...don't call me cheap.
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[Edited on 7-2-2014 by DENNIS] |
Ouch, time for a cold one
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
And, don't feel for a second that your beneficiaries see you as anything but a stupid, rich American with a bag of money just because that's how you
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That's how I act? Like I wrote, just make it up as you go along.
Do you really think I care that someone might view me as stupid and rich, and an American? Bragging rights, really. No one would ever think
I'm rich. Stupid, maybe, but, who cares?
Maybe in reality you aren't cheap. Maybe it's your pontificating I"m picking up on.
I'm thinking ''cheap'' is a sensitive issue for you?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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bledito
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That's kinda like not tipping the waiter cause the food sucked. The dispensing agent didn't rig the pump. Or maybe he flips the switch when he see's
you pull up as he knows you won't tip. same reason he doesn't do your windows. The grocery bagger and cart guys are just trying to hustle up a few
buck at least their showing a interest in earning, a job so to speak, as menial as it may be. Call it charity but i think it plays a part in life for
those willing to participate.
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While chatting with an attendant one day while she filled the tank she mentioned how much she was paid. I forget exactly what she said but I think it
was 10 dollars for 8 hours work. I remember it certainly wasn't much and it was less than 2 dollars per hour.
I'll ask next time I'm at a PEMEX.
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ehall
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Complaining about Short liters, pump scams etc is a tradition in Baja, Have a cold Pacifico and carry on.....Life is way too short to knot your
knickers over stuff like that.. |
x2 thanks
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Bajaboy
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some people are too busy putting in their two cents on every post here to tip
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bledito
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I find it hard to understand how tipping someone for providing a service relates to welfare in the states. At least these people are working. I guess
it could relate to welfare if you just stopped in at the pump every day and just dropped the guy a few bucks and so did everyone else, then maybe the
dispensing agent would just hang out there to collect and no longer work the pump. kinda like welfare then, but alas that is not the case the
attendant has to pump the gas no one tips for no service. Stupid rich American, is it only Americans that tip?? or the rich? or the stupid? Some of
the poorest uneducated and immigrant, non U.S. people I know tip. for the most part in my experiance with service and tipping in mexico, the service
is mostly very good, above average. The workers try to please to great extent, and when they recieve a tip are generally grateful. A tip is gratitude
for service. ie. gratutity. If you recieve a service offer for a set fee and accept it and are pleased with it you are not obligated to tip but in
doing so you are showing your gratitude for the good service.
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