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[*] posted on 12-16-2004 at 08:48 PM


When I though about this throughout the afternoon, my conclusion, like Bruce?s, was crime. Now I don?t mean just crime enacted by the Mexican against tourists, but all crime in Baja. But then I thought deeper and formed an image.

Most potential tourists stay away from Mexico in general and Baja specifically, because they are afraid. What are they afraid of? Crime.

So, let?s say, we agree to work together to eliminate all crime in Baja.

A few years downstream our favorite remote beaches and dusty deserts are flooded with the folks that were too afraid to visit before we eliminated crime. Now Baja is entirely like Cabo is today, filled with too much commercialism and catering to the tourist with too much money to dispense in a 5 or 10 day vacation. YeeHaw!

So here?s my proposal, it?s kinda like reality exaggerated. Let?s still work toward completely eliminating crime by eliminating the need for crime, usually poverty. But let?s lie about it.

Let?s help build a social system that allows everyone to earn as much money as they deserve and to agree with that amount. Then let?s invent wild tales about marauding bands of bandits attacking large motor home convoys in the desert and spying subs trolling the bottom of the Sea of Cortez and sinking innocent anglers. Sharks?? Yeah, like no where you?ve ever seen. The Quick Step?? It?s everywhere man, stay away. Don?t drink the water!

But, seriously, crime gets my vote. Crime affects tourists only minimally. It impacts local Mexican families on a daily basis. Mexican officials, born into a system where the mordida rules, are harder on their own then they are on us. Tourists only spend limited time in Baja. Folks who live there are subject to daily scrutiny of money-hungry corrupt authorities.

A friend once gave a Land Cruiser to a Mexican pal who worked in the U.S. but lived in Mexico. Every time he crossed the border the Mexican guards hit the fellow for mordida because the car had California plates. There are many stories about Mexicans in some position of authority taking advantage of other Mexicans.

And, finally, if you?re going to eliminate crime, where do you start? Maybe it?s a global deal. It has to start everywhere. Who will be the first? Once we?re on a roll, lets work on hatred and prejudice, mental illness, fear, ?

I guess I like the idea about perfecting Baja and lying to everyone better. It?s more realistic. Unfortunately.

Good post Lera.
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[*] posted on 12-16-2004 at 09:40 PM


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Easy,

I would declare Baja a free and independant nation from Mexico.


OK, but then what?

You would still have the same mindset, same politicos, same mafioso, same mordida...etc.

Wouldn't it be better to reform Mexico?

Your country has a wonderful constitution, independent spirit and caring populace. Wouldn't it be great if it really worked as designed?

If Mexico's people were freed from government exploitation there's no limit to what they could achieve.


Baja gets back around 25% of the taxes it produces, if we had the whole enchilada we could do many things.




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[*] posted on 12-16-2004 at 11:36 PM
trade,,,


Texas for Baja....
We stole Texas fair and square, should have taken Baja instead.
On second thought, I like Mexico too much to wish Texas upon them.

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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 08:01 AM
Mike


Mike your Post was very good Indeed!

I would suggest that if the peoples of Both Baja and their visitors would fully practice the "Ten Commandants" Baja and the United States and all visitors would make this World and Baja a much better Place.

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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 11:29 AM
Time Machine


I would like to see Nopolo Cove return to the beautiful place it was when I first camped there in 1972, if you told me then there would be golf, hotels,fences and planned communities with beach dues I would have laughed...like it or not developers will ruin that magical place we call Baja...paz



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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 01:37 PM
Crime


Mike, you are right on.... read my post today on the Baja News site from today's LATimes on crime.

And, refer to my previous post in this thread, before the pavement, no crime in the dirt!!

(We did lose two racing spares and a new dirt bike in 1973, but it was in beautiful paved downtown Ensenada, not on the dirt road to La Paz.)

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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 02:43 PM


well i was going to say cheaper beer but i see that's been taken, so I would say the only thing I would change about Baja is that I would own a house there!
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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 03:16 PM


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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Mike your Post was very good Indeed!

I would suggest that if the peoples of Both Baja and their visitors would fully practice the "Ten Commandants" Baja and the United States and all visitors would make this World and Baja a much better Place.

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Skeet, can you name them?

You get extra rapture points if you get them in order.

(No fair peeking):biggrin:




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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 03:42 PM


Just a small request, that shouldn't be too difficult:

I would like to see Loreto have an adequate amount of smaller currency.

Those 500 peso notes the teller machines spit out are too often non-negotiable because of a lack of change at the stores.

They were rationing change at the bank today. For four crisp new 500 peso notes, I got a 200, eight 100s, and two funky 500s, lol. But at least I got some change after a 50 minute wait. At times they've said no.

But with both teller machines kaput today, the oversupply of 500 peso notes may be moderated. :)

There's a poster on the bank wall announcing 1000 peso bills! Just what Loreto needs!

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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 04:04 PM
That's funny Don


Because twice I've gone in there to change $1000.00 u.s. to pesos, and all they had was 100 and 200 peso notes so I leave with a big ol wad of paper:lol: Figures!
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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 05:55 PM


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[I can recall one in particular about judging. BIG TIME sinner here, in that regard. :rolleyes:


Grover, maybe you should peek. I don't believe judging made the top ten list.;D




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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 06:08 PM


Actually, they all now have footnotes with annotations regarding exceptions, caveats, alternative interpretations, hold-harmless clauses and Supreme Court precedents which render them, ipso facto, null and void.
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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 06:15 PM


P.S. RE: Abreojos road: It's 2/3 paved but we still couldn't get there last month (B1k) as the water was up in the arroyo just past Campo Rene, stranding folks going either way. It was down enough the next day to get through.
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biggrin.gif posted on 12-17-2004 at 06:41 PM


Whistler - seen the road like that before. water comes in across the flats. be there sunday. where was the visa problem. Never seen them enforce that before::
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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 06:51 PM
Thanks for the tip Whistler


I've never seen that either, I've sat right in front of them and copied from my old FMt to the new one.....I won't do that again. :o
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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 08:47 PM


I'm not to good either--broke the first four in just the last hour.....:lol:
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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 08:55 PM
tourist permit copying


I had the Immigracion guys get very upset with me at the TJ border when I tried to copy from an old Tourist Permit----for the same reason (supposed to turn them in) but they did not fine me, just yelled at me, and threatened a fine. This was about 6 years ago.

I do not do that anymore.
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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 09:04 PM


unfortunately that is how a lot of learned in the old days , that is what is so nice about these forums. we share and we learn. and my spelling gets a little better every day.

the 11th commandment don't mis spell on this forum.




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[*] posted on 12-17-2004 at 09:33 PM
Bruce........


Frm won bad speler to anoter...i undrstand evry ting u rite......knot to wory........and I enjoy your posts!
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[*] posted on 12-18-2004 at 05:57 AM


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I had the Immigracion guys get very upset with me at the TJ border when I tried to copy from an old Tourist Permit----for the same reason (supposed to turn them in) but they did not fine me, just yelled at me, and threatened a fine.

I gotta ask - What do they do with the used, turned-in forms?
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