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chuckie
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Where is California?
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dasubergeek
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The U.S. state of California.
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chuckie
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Oh! That....Jerry Brown etc.....OK
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David K
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Baja was California FIRST! 
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mtgoat666
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"Alta" comes before "Baja."
California uber alles!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
"Alta" comes before "Baja."
California uber alles! |
"California" was first and applied to the region of La Paz, and beyond.
Most believed it was an island, despite many explorations that proved it was a peninsula... until the Consag expedition of June, 1746 seemed to
finally end that idea.
The peninsula was called (only) California until Spain learned of Russian and British ventures far to the north of their explored lands and set the
Franciscans loose to occupy the land north of the peninsula... now called "Nueva California" to distinguish it from the rest of California (the
peninsula).
Once established at San Diego and Monterey/ Carmel, the peninsula was called "Antigua California" so we had an Old and New California to avoid any
confusion.
It wasn't long before New California was called Upper ("Alta") California and Old California was called Lower ("Baja") California... and those names
stuck... Until the Mexican War and the Americans dropping "Upper" or "Alta" from the name.
Mexico did not drop "Baja" from the name, but the body of water continued unaltered as the Gulf of California, never the Gulf of Baja California!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
"Alta" comes before "Baja."
California uber alles! |
"California" was first and applied to the region of La Paz, and beyond.
Most believed it was an island, despite many explorations that proved it was a peninsula... until the Consag expedition of June, 1746 seemed to
finally end that idea.
The peninsula was called (only) California until Spain learned of Russian and British ventures far to the north of their explored lands and set the
Franciscans loose to occupy the land north of the peninsula... now called "Nueva California" to distinguish it from the rest of California (the
peninsula).
Once established at San Diego and Monterey/ Carmel, the peninsula was called "Antigua California" so we had an Old and New California to avoid any
confusion.
It wasn't long before New California was called Upper ("Alta") California and Old California was called Lower ("Baja") California... and those names
stuck... Until the Mexican War and the Americans dropping "Upper" or "Alta" from the name.
Mexico did not drop "Baja" from the name, but the body of water continued unaltered as the Gulf of California, never the Gulf of Baja California!
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Like the song says, Califonia uber alles!
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dasubergeek
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Baja was California FIRST! |
Me vale pura v****, dude. California is what we call the place where LA, San Francisco, etc. are.
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David K
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Yes, I was born there (here)... I am talking history, and sometimes history that is ignored or mis-told. Knowing the goat is a low information voter,
I thought I would help him... things like Low Sulfur Diesel is not High Sulfur, and California was the name of the peninsula for a lot more years
(1533-1768) than the U.S. had this territory and renamed it as just California... (1848-present).  
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weebray
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Thanks for the reply's related to my question. Looks like BCS does not have ULSD. I guess my friend will just have to ride his bicycle instead of
traveling in style - or not go as many of you have suggested. I doubt trading his luxury land yacht for a Toyota P/U is in the cards.
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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David K
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I think what was posted says that there is NO problem to using Low Sulfur, specially for vacation, since you are talking about only using a couple
tanks before being back on Ultra Low.
Posted above by dasubergeek:
Baja California's gas comes from California refineries. It's the same gas, so yes, it's ULSD. Never any problems filling up. (Whether a particular
station sells diesel at all is a different question.)
ULSD is ultra-low-sulfur diesel. You can use non-ULSD. Here is what happens. In all diesel passenger vehicles sold after 2008, there is a urea tank
that sprays what amounts to pig pee into the exhaust. It makes the "dirty", heavy particulate matter in the exhaust precipitate out and settle on the
bottom of the holding tank.
Every now and then the particulate matter is burned, and the exhaust from that goes out the tailpipe. You can tell when this happens because your MPG
will go way, way down. The more sulfur in your diesel fuel, the more particulate matter precipitates out. The more particulate matter there is in your
holding tank, the more urea you will use and the more often you'll burn out the leavings.
Depending on how long he is planning to be in Baja Sur, it may be worthwhile having his urea tank topped off at the Benz dealership before leaving. I
believe Mercedes calls it BlueTec. It shouldn't cost more than $50. If worse comes to worst, there is a Mercedes dealership on Padre Kino in Tijuana
and one on Hwy 1 south of San Jose del Cabo.
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weebray
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Thanks, My friend has been advised of his options. I guess the only thing I'm not clear on is if Jesus Maria has Baja or BCS diesel?
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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David K
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It is only 20 miles north of Guerrero Negro... if they were out at Jesus Maria, then your friend would have to get gas at Guerrero Negro... unless he
has extra tanks and can go 400 or more miles from El Rosario fill up (for a round trip).
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bajaguy
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Contact Antonio at Baja Cactus
| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
Thanks, My friend has been advised of his options. I guess the only thing I'm not clear on is if Jesus Maria has Baja or BCS diesel?
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dasubergeek
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One or two or even ten tanks of low-sulfur diesel is not going to clog his fuel lines, jeez.
I'd be more worried about the tránsitos seeing the Benz and dollar signs lighting up in their eyes than anything to do with the diesel fuel.
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bigmike58
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dasubergeek
One or two or even ten tanks of low-sulfur diesel is not going to clog his fuel lines, jeez.
I'd be more worried about the tránsitos seeing the Benz and dollar signs lighting up in their eyes than anything to do with the diesel fuel.
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It's not the lines that get clogged, it's the DPF and expensive sensors that tell the motor "problema" and then you are stuck at 25mph or parked.
Shouldn\'t one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check or Sec.8 housing?
........... I had to pass one to earn it for them!
\"I\'ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go?\"
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