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Paulina
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Just like ICE does it.... |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lNJviuYUEQ
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Mulegena
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A door-to-door check by immigration happened here in Mulege's tourist zones, too, years ago.
Immigration has the apparent right to know who every foreigner is and where they live.
They still make unannounced visits to people's homes on occasion, rare but it happens.
With a day's advance notice they conduct annual visits to all foreign-owned businesses,
check their licenses, employees and business practice.
It would appear that it's within the law and scope of their responsibility.
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Paulina
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
This has happened on and off for many years in Cabo. I don't understand what the big deal is |
Zac,
I can see where it may be a big deal to some of the elderly people who are living in Baja who can't qualify financially for the new visas, scraping by
on Social Security, barely making it month to month. Those are the folks I feel for.
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BajaGringo
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Got a big lump in my throat with that video. We have a nephew in that very situation tonight...
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
This has happened on and off for many years in Cabo. I don't understand what the big deal is |
Zac,
I can see where it may be a big deal to some of the elderly people who are living in Baja who can't qualify financially for the new visas, scraping by
on Social Security, barely making it month to month. Those are the folks I feel for.
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Why is it okay for one to break the law in Mexico?
I feel bad for all who can't get by regardless of where one lives. But I also feel it is reasonable for Mexico to enforce their laws. I don't always
agree with them...but it is my responsibility to know and respect them.
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Paulina
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I am not saying it's ok to break the law in Mexico. I was only saying I feel for those who are stuck between a rock and a hard spot.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
This has happened on and off for many years in Cabo. I don't understand what the big deal is |
Yeah...I won't worry about it, but I sure as hell won't venture out in public without my USA armband.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
Immigration has the apparent right to know who every foreigner is and where they live.
They still make unannounced visits to people's homes on occasion, rare but it happens.
It would appear that it's within the law and scope of their responsibility. |
It's harassment boolcrap done to appease the xenophobes and racists that, at times, not so silently permeate society in Mexico. I've seen it happen
before and when the rabble is appeased, the storm troopers will go back to their barracks.
Scope of their responsibility? WTF isn't within the scope of their responsibility? That scope you mention could well be used in their next
technique...body cavity searches.
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[Edited on 9-12-2014 by DENNIS]
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bledito
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Why does one have to hide thier house plants ???? Dennis relating mexico checking status to auswich is disgusting. IMHO.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bledito
Why does one have to hide thier house plants ???? Dennis relating mexico checking status to auswich is disgusting. IMHO. |
Yes. It is disgusting. Tell them...not me.
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Paulina
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bledito
Why does one have to hide thier house plants ????. |
It may be hard to pass yourself off to immigration as a tourist passing through with a greenhouse growing on your front porch.
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Considering this and the Mulege vehicle check also happening now, I wonder if local bureaucrats have been told By Mexico City that the gravy train
will slow down unless laws are enforced.
Jeez, higher taxes, law enforcement, what's Mexico coming to? What's next? No beer on the beach?
[Edited on 9-12-2014 by SFandH]
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chuckie
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Dennis, go back to bed for a while, have another cuppa, mellow out...It's OK.....honest...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
| Quote: | Originally posted by bledito
Why does one have to hide thier house plants ????. |
It may be hard to pass yourself off to immigration as a tourist passing through with a greenhouse growing on your front porch.
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I guess you could say they're silk plants and you never leave home without them. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Unless I'm missing something here your status to be legally there should be pretty easy to show.
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Things are changing, Frank. They always knew full well that property owners weren't tourists, but it seems they're going to start acting on
it.........selectively at first, but it will probably be SOP in time.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
in the area being talked about, aren't most of those folks lessees? Is the leasing on an FMM option now off the table?
Mexico is, indeed, changing. |
It's the fine point of the law. Is a tourist and a property owner the same? Can they wear both hats simultaneously?
Immigration says no....foreigner says yes. Personally, I say no.
Place your bets.
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FMM is not limited to "tourist" according to some immigration folks. It is limited to 180 days. Not sure there is agreement on when one if a snow
bird vs a tourist.
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DENNIS
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FMM is not limited to "tourist" according to some immigration folks. It is limited to 180 days. Not sure there is agreement on when one if a snow
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Selective semantics.
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sancho
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I wouldn't worry about plants if you have a tourist permit.
180 days, right?
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What exactly does the fmm/180 day allow one to do, regarding
time in Baja? I'm sure there is no clear answer. Can one rent
for a weekend, 2 weeks, 2 months, 6 months? I was under the
assumption one could not enter into a legal agreement with
an fmm, but reports have leases, fido's, bank accounts
acquired with a Tourist Permit. Does showing the Mex IMM an fmm satisfy them if one is renting?
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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by akshadow
FMM is not limited to "tourist" according to some immigration folks. It is limited to 180 days. Not sure there is agreement on when one if a snow
bird vs a tourist. |
Selective semantics. |
And, when I fill out the FMM it has zero time limits on it due to my PR status..... so, how do you split that hair?
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Why would you need to fill out a FMM form if you have permanent resident status now?
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