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Alm
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Gnukid, it's not that clear, and is not "the same" as having multiple properties. Though from practical point of view there is probably no risk
involved.
Yes, you can be a permanent resident of multiple countries, but not any countries and/or not for long.
Permanent residence status normally implies that you reside "most of the time" in that country. You may even lose this status after long periods of
absence. I don't know if this is the case with Mexico, don't need to know. This is something that the OP might want to read more about if they really
want.
Snowbirds travel, and this doesn't tell much because each one has a different situation. Some do spend most of the time outside the US (or Canada),
some make it 50/50, some have PR status in Mexico, and some travel with just tourist status.
Gypsies are special group, I wouldn't compare their status with anybody else.
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Many foreign countries DO NOT recognize a US drivers lisence ... |
And those that do, may require it to be officially translated into local language - or an equivalent like International License issued - and even then
they only allow you to use it for a few months. After that, you have to obtain a local license.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Mexconnect is largely focus on mainland where different rules apply such as TIP for temporal residente. There are no such restrictions against perm
resident driving US plated vehicles in BCS, |
I believe the difference in rules is only in TIPs. |
Alma,you are wrong about BCS requiring permanent residents to import vehicles-that's the point. In BCS PR can drive Ca plated vehicles.
Please stop creating confusion.
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karenintx
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Mexconnect is largely focus on mainland where different rules apply such as TIP for temporal residente. There are no such restrictions against perm
resident driving US plated vehicles in BCS, |
I believe the difference in rules is only in TIPs. |
Alma,you are wrong about BCS requiring permanent residents to import vehicles-that's the point. In BCS PR can drive Ca plated vehicles.
Please stop creating confusion. |
Thank you gnukid...you are 100% right.
If it was illegal than every Fed/Cop in CSL would have writers cramp. When we were pulled over for an illegal u-turn no questions were asked about
our S/D license plate with a Texas D/L.
When the hubby parked in the wrong color parking zone the rear license plate, again a S/D plate was removed by the police and a ticket was left on the
windshield. The hubby drove out to the police station/jail house on the highway going to Todo Santos. He spoke to the judge in his "pretty good"
Spanish. He had to show the court his Texas D/L, pay the fine then he was given back his S/D license plate.
Yes, he told the judge..."I live here full time and have my R/P card." The judge's only remark was..."Do you like living here?" To which my hubby
said "We love living here!" Both of them smiled.
I am not a Gringo Gazette fan however this was address a couple of issue ago. Like Carrie said..."quit telling people you know that someone you know
was told by someone they know that their car was impound because they have an R/P and drive a USA plated car. It is not true because The Baja is a
free-zone...at least for now" Those are her words not mine.
So let's all drive our USA plated cars and smile!
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Hook
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It really is amazing that a free-zone, frontera area can extend 1000 miles below the border in Baja and only about 300 miles in Sonora.
But that's the way it is........for now.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
It really is amazing that a free-zone, frontera area can extend 1000 miles below the border in Baja and only about 300 miles in Sonora.
But that's the way it is........for now. |
once Mexican laws are enforced (and there is a lot of pressure to do so) there are going to be a lot of whiners on this forum and others.
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karenintx
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
It really is amazing that a free-zone, frontera area can extend 1000 miles below the border in Baja and only about 300 miles in Sonora.
But that's the way it is........for now. |
once Mexican laws are enforced (and there is a lot of pressure to do so) there are going to be a lot of whiners on this forum and others.
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I am not whining but I am doing what the law says is legal.
When the law changes, and I agree it will, then I will do as I have done since I starting coming to Mexico 34 years ago...be legal. Until then, I
will continue to drive my USA plated vehicle because it is legal.
Happy Driving...
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by karenintx
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
It really is amazing that a free-zone, frontera area can extend 1000 miles below the border in Baja and only about 300 miles in Sonora.
But that's the way it is........for now. |
once Mexican laws are enforced (and there is a lot of pressure to do so) there are going to be a lot of whiners on this forum and others.
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I am not whining but I am doing what the law says is legal.
When the law changes, and I agree it will, then I will do as I have done since I starting coming to Mexico 34 years ago...be legal. Until then, I
will continue to drive my USA plated vehicle because it is legal.
Happy Driving... |
was not that long ago I remember a lot of people whining or worse when the TIP was enforced for water craft. You just think it is legal. I don't
think you or anyone else on this forum (including me) have seen a law that allows or prohibits it. If you have something...please share it with the
rest of us.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by karenintx
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
It really is amazing that a free-zone, frontera area can extend 1000 miles below the border in Baja and only about 300 miles in Sonora.
But that's the way it is........for now. |
once Mexican laws are enforced (and there is a lot of pressure to do so) there are going to be a lot of whiners on this forum and others.
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I am not whining but I am doing what the law says is legal.
When the law changes, and I agree it will, then I will do as I have done since I starting coming to Mexico 34 years ago...be legal. Until then, I
will continue to drive my USA plated vehicle because it is legal.
Happy Driving... |
was not that long ago I remember a lot of people whining or worse when the TIP was enforced for water craft. You just think it is legal. I don't
think you or anyone else on this forum (including me) have seen a law that allows or prohibits it. If you have something...please share it with the
rest of us. |
Why not imagine everything is illegal according to our logic. No tacos, no love, no peace!
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by karenintx
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
It really is amazing that a free-zone, frontera area can extend 1000 miles below the border in Baja and only about 300 miles in Sonora.
But that's the way it is........for now. |
once Mexican laws are enforced (and there is a lot of pressure to do so) there are going to be a lot of whiners on this forum and others.
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I am not whining but I am doing what the law says is legal.
When the law changes, and I agree it will, then I will do as I have done since I starting coming to Mexico 34 years ago...be legal. Until then, I
will continue to drive my USA plated vehicle because it is legal.
Happy Driving... |
was not that long ago I remember a lot of people whining or worse when the TIP was enforced for water craft. You just think it is legal. I don't
think you or anyone else on this forum (including me) have seen a law that allows or prohibits it. If you have something...please share it with the
rest of us. |
Why not imagine everything is illegal according to our logic. No tacos, no love, no peace! |
never said it was legal or illegal. Just said where is the proof. Taking this to an emotional level because you can not support you claim does not
help your credibility.
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How about the fact that many of us have a legacy of experience with law enforcement in BCS and we drive our cars with PR or previously FM2 in BCS and
we read the law and no one has ever been persecuted for PR with CA plates and CA license in BCS nor has there been a law that says we should not? If
you have other experience please share or stop the crazy talk.
rts551 and Alm stop the nonsense or post actual experience or law supporting your story.
[Edited on 11-2-2014 by gnukid]
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
How about the fact that many of us have a legacy of experience with law enforcement in BCS and we drive our cars with PR or previously FM2 in BCS and
we read the law and no one has ever been persecuted for PR with CA plates and CA license in BCS nor has there been a law that says we should not? If
you have other experience please share or stop the crazy talk.
rts551 and Alm stop the nonsense or post actual experience or law supporting your story.
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distraction. You made the assertion it was legal. not me. Absence of proof does not make something fact. Show the proof or its just your
opinion.
By the way, you are right, many of us have experienced Mexico, including living there for many years. Didn't make me an expert in everything
though, and I doubt it did you either.
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gnukid
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rts551 I highly recommend that you don't drive anywhere.
dont' pull that label off the mattress
don't leave mayonnaise out
what else?
[Edited on 11-2-2014 by gnukid]
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rts551
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rts551 I highly recommend that you don't drive anywhere.
dont' pull that label off the mattress
don't leave mayonnaise out
what else?
[Edited on 11-2-2014 by gnukid] |
-do not pay attention to distractions
-beware people who are too aggressive with their opinions and get their feelings hurt easily if someone disagrees
-remember that the internet makes it easy for people to voice opinions without consequence
-keep doing what I am doing because I am having a ball and don't have to worry about what someone on the internet thinks
anything else? oh yea,
OP - sorry for the distraction. there obviously no factual information out there yet. But is appears that none is having a problem either. Have a
good time.
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gnukid
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Nonsense, there is a legacy of case law for baja, if something is not illegal, it is legal.
Projection doesn't change anything.
Be practical, due to it's nature, baja has a transient population, as well goods and service arrive from other parts, little manufacturing is done
there.
The population has long been arriving from other parts and bring their vehicles, they are not immediately illegal, in fact vehicles, warranties,
registrations, licenses, from all over the world are legal as are people with a variety of status in the frontier. as long as you are up to date and
in compliance.
If the fact that the population of BCS is largely diverse with a variety of backgrounds is a concern to you RTS-551 that's fine, but it has no affect
on the legality of the those who transit with current legal registrations, plates and license from other parts-that's the current state of affairs.
If anyone has a question about insurance, or options for plates, reg, or dl please ask, there are many legal and affordable options available. If the
law changes there will continue to be many affordable options.
Basically, keep your stuff up to date and make sure you have headlights-you'll be fine! If you have any questions ask away here on Baja Nomad.
Baja is a great place to have fun!
[Edited on 11-2-2014 by gnukid]
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dtbushpilot
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Well TedZark, I hope your questions and concerns have been addressed. What seemed to be a simple question has morphed into 3 pages of words and stuff,
maybe this will wrap up in another page or two 
You guys are only posturing to yourselves, Ted quit at the top of page 2....
[Edited on 11-2-2014 by dtbushpilot]
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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gnukid
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To humor the paranoid, while you are in BCS, if you enter a federal zone, for example a parking entrance to go to the ferry, then it's possible that
national laws could be in effect, at that moment RTS-551 could go full paranoid, or could just exit the parking lot.
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