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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 10:03 AM


Hmmm...that region sparks some old memories. Maybe some of you will know this fellow.

I went to events called September Fest near Inyokern, California a couple times back in the 80's. A bit to the west of this area, I believe. The gatherings were hosted by a fellow named Johann, who was from South Africa and built his private getaway in this arid land. In a nutshell, that Fest was bizarre...to say the least. Anything and everything happened at his place...kind of like the first few Burning Man gatherings. Another place somewhere out in the desert was called the Hot Springs, the site of some other times. Featured lots of small planes.

I had arrived at Johann's with amigos on motorcycles on my last visit, and I was a mite surprised when Johann warned us all not to drive naked into Inyokern. That's when I found out the theme was nudity. The next day there were about 20 parachutists who floated down and joined the fun times...naked. Now that was quite an entrance.

p.s. As I remember, Johann was a chiropractor, like our mutual friend who originally invited me...Johnny Tequila from Baja.

edit to add this photo...I scratched around in my morgue and found Johann in this collage. Hope that helps.



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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 10:38 AM
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Pomp...was that Doc Johannes Beyers ???



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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 10:45 AM


The more remote areas surrounding Death Valley Natl. Park, but back then not actually IN the Park, was where some pretty bazaar stuff went on like parts of Panamint Valley, and Saline Valley to the NW was where "Warm Springs" was, and still is. The Park Service having now recently taken over Saline Valley and environs has pretty much had a hands-off attitude for the immediate Warm Springs area, and just let it evolve------a wise decision, IMO as there is a long tradition there (nudity) and it is so remote that most visitors are not even aware of it's existence. Warm Springs is really quite remarkable in that there are several developed pools of warm and hot water where people gather under the palms, all done by private people doing a lot of work over many many years. It's a long and pretty tough dirt road just to get there.

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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 10:47 AM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Pomp...was that Doc Johannes Beyers ???


Could be, bajaguy. I'm sure I knew his last name at one time, but I've forgotten it. He did come to Baja (Mulege) once to visit his old buddy, JT. I heard a rumor that he met an untimely death, but cannot vouch for that.




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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 11:15 AM


Sunrise at Badwater.... Love that image, Ken!

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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 12:02 PM


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Sunrise at Badwater.... Love that image, Ken!

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Nena,

Thanks. The person in the image was a beautiful Japanese woman. Her husband was just outside the frame to the right. He and I with our tripod mounted cameras and her were the only ones out there that windy/rainy morning.
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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 01:17 PM


Thanks for sharing - DV is one of my favorite places. And cool that you were advantageous with the rain water.

Maybe a half dozen years ago, it rained in DV big time, and Huell Howser went there and saw people kayaking in Bad Water. Of course, the flowers were going off too.




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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 04:19 PM


WOW :cool:
Got to see it last spring with the Fam, your photos are very moving.
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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 07:50 PM


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Nice pictures Ken. I think the first one was taken where the hwy crosses panamint valley? I usually stop there to shoot compositions of cracked mud.


It was taken just east of the intersection of 190 & Panamint Valley Rd. Every trip to DV involves a drive over to Panamint Springs Resort for a craft beer and a burger. They have the largest selection of craft beers for 100+ miles.




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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 08:08 PM


Better than the "home brew" in Darwin ...:):)



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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 08:52 PM


Quote: Originally posted by tripledigitken  
Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
Nice pictures Ken. I think the first one was taken where the hwy crosses panamint valley? I usually stop there to shoot compositions of cracked mud.


It was taken just east of the intersection of 190 & Panamint Valley Rd. Every trip to DV involves a drive over to Panamint Springs Resort for a craft beer and a burger. They have the largest selection of craft beers for 100+ miles.




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Have you ever visited those dunes just north of that spot? You can see them from the road. I would think there are better opportunities there to find one without human tracks, which is a challenge at the mesquite dunes.
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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 08:58 PM


Igor,

Yes, many times I've wondered about those. Another bucket list item.
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Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
Quote: Originally posted by tripledigitken  
Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
Nice pictures Ken. I think the first one was taken where the hwy crosses panamint valley? I usually stop there to shoot compositions of cracked mud.


It was taken just east of the intersection of 190 & Panamint Valley Rd. Every trip to DV involves a drive over to Panamint Springs Resort for a craft beer and a burger. They have the largest selection of craft beers for 100+ miles.




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Have you ever visited those dunes just north of that spot? You can see them from the road. I would think there are better opportunities there to find one without human tracks, which is a challenge at the mesquite dunes.


Those dunes you see are the "Panamint dunes" I believe and were totally protected by the BLM for years (no vehicles). Not sure how the Park Service is treating/managing them, but I believe you have to walk to them, and it's a long walk. They are pristine, as are the Eureka Dunes in Eureka Valley north of Saline Valley, and you can drive to the base of the Eureka Dunes, but not "on" them. They are remote, so pretty pristine.

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[*] posted on 12-29-2014 at 09:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  

Those dunes you see are the "Panamint dunes" I believe and were totally protected by the BLM for years (no vehicles). Not sure how the Park Service is treating/managing them, but I believe you have to walk to them, and it's a long walk. They are pristine, as are the Eureka Dunes in Eureka Valley north of Saline Valley, and you can drive to the base of the Eureka Dunes, but not "on" them. They are remote, so pretty pristine.

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I agree it's a long walk, and I have not noticed any vehicle access. The Eureka Dunes are my favorite. The last time there we didn't see another vehicle in the 4 hours we visited. They are much larger than Mesquite Dunes as well. Here are a few shots of that trip.




My footprints were the only I saw on this visit.








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[*] posted on 12-30-2014 at 11:02 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
The more remote areas surrounding Death Valley Natl. Park, but back then not actually IN the Park, was where some pretty bazaar stuff went on like parts of Panamint Valley, and Saline Valley to the NW was where "Warm Springs" was, and still is. The Park Service having now recently taken over Saline Valley and environs has pretty much had a hands-off attitude for the immediate Warm Springs area, and just let it evolve------a wise decision, IMO as there is a long tradition there (nudity) and it is so remote that most visitors are not even aware of it's existence. Warm Springs is really quite remarkable in that there are several developed pools of warm and hot water where people gather under the palms, all done by private people doing a lot of work over many many years. It's a long and pretty tough dirt road just to get there.

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Been there a couple of times, no not in the pools, just there. Wanting to do Steel Pass as it's one of the few areas I've not been thru. http://forum.salinepreservation.org/ is the org. that maintains the warm spring pools.
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[*] posted on 12-30-2014 at 01:41 PM


My son and I did the Steel Pass road ( Warm Springs to Eureka Dunes) 2 years ago, and it is a great adventure. We were in a Nissan X-Terra and it was no problem. I do recommend 4-wheel drive, but really not necessary most of the time. It is very narrow in places, some sandy areas and rocks, but again no problems were encountered back then. Great Photo ops.

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[*] posted on 12-30-2014 at 01:48 PM


Barry,

How did u access Saline Valley, south from 190 or the racetrack?
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Quote: Originally posted by tripledigitken  
Barry,

How did u access Saline Valley, south from 190 or the racetrack?


Ken--------we came in from hyway 190, and it was a challenge. The road was gone in places, as flashfloods had hit the area hard several weeks prior to us going in, and Inyo County had closed the road completely with signs. Most of the serious damage was fairly shortly after we left the highway 190 and before we started the descent into Saline Valley. We had to make our own road from scratch where the road and the flash floods occupied the same space for several miles. It was fun, and we did make it thru with no damage to our X-Terra or the terrain. My X-terra has special after Market suspension (Calmini) all around, and is raised 2.5 inches all around, but other than that it is stock------just had to go really slowly, and pick your way thru the boulders. We did use our stock rear locker, however, as I recall, mostly because of soft sand. Most of the road further north and down into Saline was in fine shape, as was the Steel Pass road.

We have never done the "Race track" approach to Saline (from the east), but would like too. Been to the Race Track from DV several times. I believe that the race track road down into Saline is in pretty bad shape, tho, and may even be closed by the Park Service-----don't really know at this time.

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[*] posted on 12-30-2014 at 02:34 PM


Barry,

When were going to Saline Valley in the early 70's the road from 190 was in good enough shape for my 1959 ford station wagon to make it. Warm Springs was always a must do while in the valley. We once backpacked up to the old mining town of Beveridge. That's another story.

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Quote: Originally posted by tripledigitken  
Barry,

When were going to Saline Valley in the early 70's the road from 190 was in good enough shape for my 1959 ford station wagon to make it. Warm Springs was always a must do while in the valley. We once backpacked up to the old mining town of Beveridge. That's another story.

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Wow, Beveridge------------I have heard that is one mighty tough hike!!! Those that I know that have done it have come from the top of the Inyo Mts (via the jeep road out of Cerro Gordo north along the crest) , hiking east down into Beveridge, and then continuing on down to the east to be picked up in Saline Valley-------and that is STILL "one tough hike", tho mostly downhill.

I salute you!!!!

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