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Barry A.
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Quote: Originally posted by bajalearner  | | Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | | Quote: Originally posted by blackwolfmt | That's what gets me!! Nasa wants to land peeps on mars when they should be finding an affordable way to desalinate sea
water and send the salt to mars
[Edited on 2-14-2015 by blackwolfmt] |
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!! (except forget the "sending salt to mars")
Our priorities are often so screwed up!!!
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"Our" priorities may not be inline with the wealthy. What if NASA is working toward a place for the wealthy to go and leave "us" here to tend the
coal mines? You know, like Malibu compared to south central or the Hamptoms vs Harlem.  |
Righttttttttttttt!!!!! 
I, for one, will not go with them--------I like it just fine right here!!!
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by monoloco | | Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | In investing circles, it has long (50 years plus) been predicted that WATER WARS will replace OIL WARS in the future.
Conclusion: Invest in all things "water" related.
Sounds reasonable to me.
Barry
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Never let a perfectly good crisis go to waste. |
Bottem line------- so true!!! Especially when the "crisis" is, as usual, caused by people with an agenda going off half-c-cked and thereby causing
panic or reaction to something that can be minimally changed by man, if at all.
I just adapt to------well---------whatever, and try to take advantage of opportunities as they develop and as I find them.
Life is good (so far)
Barry
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Hush now, you'll scare the children.
Everything is fine. God is in control.
Consume.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150212154422.ht...
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motoged
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When I first posted this news article, I wasn't wanting to revive the climate change rant, rather I was thinking about how Baja might respond to
diminishing water availability and how at least Nomads might respond....perhaps I should have added that to the post.
I live in an area where, when it is a "dry year", we suffer from significant forest fires...
I am interested in how Nomads living in areas with no or limited water supply systems manage their water needs....truck it in for underground
cisterns, tanks on roof, wells, or what?
Don't believe everything you think....
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motoged
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http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/02/14/nasa-warns-of-megadroughts-orig.cnn-nasa/video/playlists/most-popular-domestic/
Don't believe everything you think....
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David K
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You thought wrong, .... again... but have a nice day!
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BajaRat
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The desert southwest is already sucking up the Colorado River and its tributaries NOB with next to nothing crossing the border into Mexico. The taping
of ground water cannot sustain the current population and agricultural needs without those runoff sources.
The emergency is already here and Mexicali and its farms only have ground water left 
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And Yes man is directly connected with the current water strains in the desert southwest, the shortages are a man made problem period.
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What do they know? Do they think they're a bunch of rocket scientists or something? Probably been paid off by Al Gore.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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http://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-pol-water-brown-...
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/08/130816-color...
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Quote from David K in March where he declared the drought not severe in San Diego and overall just a political problem.
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No, because the drought is not severe here... our local water supply is fine and because of conservation through smarter watering methods and low flow
toilets, etc. we don't need to go on odd/even or selected days to irrigate. I am happy to report drip and low volume irrigation and smart controllers
do work, and when installed and operated correctly reduce water use and maintain property value and beauty (and give us oxygen).
Again, the crisis is largely political... rain will come... but they want more dollars, now.
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I guess that means that somehow the no snow pack AGAIN this year, is simply a political problem. If the politicians don't declare a severe drought, I
guess is does not happen. 
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaRat | The desert southwest is already sucking up the Colorado River and its tributaries NOB with next to nothing crossing the border into Mexico. The taping
of ground water cannot sustain the current population and agricultural needs without those runoff sources.
The emergency is already here and Mexicali and its farms only have ground water left |
Back in the early '60's when I was studying the problem of "water" in the southwest USA, there was little water reaching the Mexicali Valley of Mexico
from the Colorado River despite Treaty commitments.
This problem is far from "new".
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BajaRat
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My daughter likes to remind me that man has been on the planet for seconds on the 24 hour clock in the relation to the time line of this blue ball.
Once again we ditch the thought that man is effecting our environment and destroying our biodiversity.
Forget your climate change argument, please give me your info to deny ecological impact of man
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Sorry Barry but the reduced flow of the Colorado starts with us 
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Barry A.
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"Sorry Barry"????? Sorry for what? Man is TOTALLY responsible for the waters of the Colorado River (etc.) not reaching Mexico as it historically
has done for eons. No argument there. All I am saying is that is not new----been going on for over 50 + years at least, that I know of. It should
have been corrected years ago----another treaty/agreement broken by the USA.
Barry
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Barry is right. One of the major reasons for the huge development in places like Las Vegas and So Cal is the water from the Colorado river. It is sort
of interesting that there have been record rains fro San Francisco up to Seattle, but he Colorado basin is still parched.
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BajaRat
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Barry, You said it was far from new. I'm sorry, I thought you were implying that this problem was not man made.
Respect to you my man
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It's a desert!!!!!
I have lived in the Sonora Desert for 55 plus years.
We get about 12 inches of rain a year.
But, what I resent, is the FUD
FEAR
Uncertainty
Doubt
This has nothing to do with global warming. It has to do with population growth.
AZ and Phoenix in particular, is one of the fastest growing areas in the US.
We have the Central AZ Project. We have the Salt River Project
And besides, from what I have read, the global warming is going to cause more monsoon storms in the summer and more rain and flooding in the winter
due to El Nino
FYI
We currently have reduced our drought substantially over the past 12 months, but it is highly unlikely that we will ever be out of a drought, living
in the desert!!
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
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Los Angeles only grew bigger from historic small size when Mulholland brought water from the eastern Sierras in the early 1900s. Then the Colorado was
tapped for more SoCal water. As was said, 'its a desert!". You don't have the same issues east of the Rockies. Climate change? IMHO, it's a natural
phenomenon. We had an Ice Age 10,000 yrs ago. ice down to mid Atlantic region. Man may have an impact on "Local" water distribution ( Colorado,
Eastern Sierra) and indirectly, by population growth world wide in the last 200 years but what is the alternative? Summery execution?
BTW, I live at Lake Powell. I'm looking out my window at the lake right now. We are 45% of full pool. We lose water until about May when the snow pack
upstream melts then we gain 60-70 or more feet of water depth. The lake is 460 feet deep at the dam. It is 170+ miles long. We are today within 2
inches of what we had 2 years ago same day.
As was also said, we are ( we being man's existence on this planet) but an eye blink in the total history of the world. Climate change has always been
active on the earth.
Why isn't man's position here ever considered another "natural phenomenon" in the history of the world. Why is always considered and abnormality?
Nothing lasts forever on the world. Pangea didn't last forever, nor any of its relatives. Dinosaurs only lasted hundreds of millions of years before
they died out. Man will eventually die out just like everything else has done AS A NATURAL PHENOMENON.
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Agree Cliffy ... Based on the Law of thermodynamics as it applies to all matter we currently understand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics
And we are seeing "it" applied globally at this time
Bit surprised about Lake Powell .. as a National Geo'a repot on the "river" and/or "lake's" was somewhat different
Noted that the comparisons are from 1999 and 2013, a very interesting interactive they have though
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/08/130816-color...
Think the Anasazi might have idea's on drought and/or climate change, if we could ask them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Pueblo_peoples#Migratio...
And I'm NOT hoping for a drought ... anywhere
Pray and/or dance for rain/snow .. where needed
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