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Barry A.
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I did not need a "study" to tell me that, Sweetwater------------and FNC never claimed to be un-biased!!! They constantly say they have a
"conservative" bent. They do have a lot of "opinion programs", but they DO try hard to present both sides of the issues in a "fair and balanced" way,
from my viewpoint.
And, as far as I can tell, they have NEVER lied-----mistakes yes, and they ALWAYS point them out when they make them which is not often.
But, like Pomp says, they are so easy to watch and listen too, and I get a LOT of entertainment out of watching their commentators.
Am I biased?----- of course I am, but so be it. LOL I listen to MSNBC, too, but it is often hard to do as they are so boring to me and say the
darn'est things.
I like NPR / PBS for more better balance on things.
I think that Roger nailed it in his comments.
Barry
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Sweetwater, we will agree to disagree. It's all about opinion, anyway.
Here's some of the same as you have shown...also from a journalistic source. Examples of a liberal media bias, but I think you already know they
existed.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/top-50-examples-liberal-med...
Be thankful we can still debate in a friendly way ...at least for awhile. I once lived for a year in a country where certain debates and news were
not allowed, and was punishable by death. Bandershah, Iran in the '60's.
As for FOX News and all the other networks, I think some folks are confused as to what is a 'commentary' segment as opposed to straight news
reporting. Think about it.
edit to add...I'm not going to respond to any snarky remarks on this subject. I'd much rather spend the time with steelheads...or a banana cream pie
made by Megan Kelly. 
[Edited on 3-11-2015 by Pompano]
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Bill O'Reilly. 
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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Roger,
As we have seen a realm of your co-pilots, I an assuming that is a "code phrase" for an activity....done liberally 
P.S. Not meant to be snarky...
[Edited on 3-11-2015 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  |
Roger,
As we have seen a realm of your co-pilots, I an assuming that is a "code phrase" for an activity....done liberally |
Ged, you are most assuredly correct...I will gladly take 'liberal' amounts of said Megan. Plus I am told she is a terrific cook.
Ah perfection...and in Baja, too..
Do you think we've hijacked this thread enough?
[Edited on 3-11-2015 by Pompano]
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This, and cheap tequila. Plus, plenty of spare time.
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Different talking heads, same source of propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC9Wqgt0hhg
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Barry A.
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There are a VERY limited source (like AP, UPI, etc.) of general National and International news, and all news desks subscribe to them. To call it
"propaganda" is a stretch, and misleading I believe.
Barry
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Thank you Roger for posting, it is what we all know to be true, and why FNC is far and away the #1 choice to hear both viewpoints and the hard stories
the other networks bury.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Thank you Roger for posting, it is what we all know to be true, and why FNC is far and away the #1 choice to hear both viewpoints and the hard stories
the other networks bury. |
dk, sometimes you are pretty funny!
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He that can control the media shall be more successful in ruling the earth than he that is controlled by big business. (sorry, no link for that
staement 
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I rarely chime in on political discussions here on BN. For one thing, as soon as I do it gets shuffled off to Off Topic and that is the kiss of death
for any objectivity, given the (scant) population of that dank, dark cellar. In fact, the body of the main board doesn't go there to read anything.
So, while it is still here on the main board, I will try to contribute my opinion. First of all, I want to commend everyone who has posted here for
presenting their opinions without rancor. The posters are giving their opinions, predictably, from their political points of view. It is really
amazing how one person can see a subject so totally opposite from another. It is as though they were looking at two different stories. But that is the
nature of our divided country. No, let me walk that back a bit; here we have the best examples of how those points of view should be presented. The
real nature of our divided country contains much more anger and angst.
Here is my opinion on this thread: The Ted video is really funny and the poster's point is well taken in relation to The BajaNomad...blah blah blah.
I used to sit down for hours with Roger (Pompano) in Mulege and discuss politics, fishing and many other topics. We never did agree on politics. That
is not an indictment of Roger's politics! It just shows that real gentlemen, raised in the right way, (you too, Barry), can carry on a conversation
from their very different perspectives and yet remain civil. Furthermore, most here are quite eloquent in their writing skills and they are able to
present their points of view so that we all can understand where they stand, and why.
Regarding Journalism, most of us are old enough to remember when that was an honorable profession across the board. Investigative Journalists are
among the smartest, highly educated and experienced observers of what is really happening in the world. They go to where the news is happening. They
dig out the truth, however that may fall, ideologically, and report their findings.
There is a code of ethics which still exist, but is too often violated these days, and that is to seek the truth in what they are
investigating and reporting. But as I said before, the truth is so different, depending on one's ideology. Being Liberal, I can
honestly tell you that I cannot see the truth in much of what Fox presents. They exist to present the Conservative points of view. Everyone knows this
and this has been stated in this string by both Conservatives and Liberals.
Roger pointed out the differences between opinion talk shows and news reporting. On one hand you have Hannity and O'reilly. On the other, you
have Shepard Smith, a news anchor. Hannity and O'reilly show obvious biases as opposed to Smith. And that is the way it should be. The main hypocrisy
Hannity, O'reilly and the bevy of babes claim, is that they are telling the truth. They don't need to do that. Their shows stand on their own as
entertainment, and they are highly successful. I suppose their lying, (Yes, I said lying), is so preposterous, that that adds to their success.
That is the way it is designed in the Rupert Murdock, Roger Ailes Fox empire.
This is all good entertainment! Good for a good laugh! Just don't take them seriously, but that is hard for some to do. Those who believe them are
duped by the faux news. They developed their biases by looking no further for their information. They are far less inquisitive than their
Liberal counterparts. And that, my friends, is the whole purpose for Fox "News's" existence. It is by design. It is brilliant and it works as
designed!
If your are curious, you will go to the various Fact Check sources to get the truth. Compare everything Hannity and O'reilly says
against what Rachael Maddow says. She is so principled! Obviously hers is also an entertainment/opinion show, full of bias. But she rarely reports
stories that can't be fully verified. On the rare occasions where she does make a mistake, she will admit it and correct it in a later show.
My last word in this post is to not vote for anyone who advocates violence anywhere in the world. And that goes for both political parties. They are
both heading us down the road towards the end war.
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Tony,
Thanks for that....
An American friend living in Baja has recently (past year) been exposed to Canadian tv news as he has been caretaking a place w/ satelite TV....and he
continues to comment on the difference that CBC, for instance, offers as professional reporting compared to USA networks....
One observation was that the Canadian newscaster seem to be real people, and not performers as much as the USA networks.
I think it would be interesting to see how other "Americans" perceive news casting and reporting away from the fetid styles of reporting coming out of
the alleged "us / them" US programs....BBC, CBC, and I am sure there are others....
If you live in a small box, the air becomes stale....
Don't believe everything you think....
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"If you live in a small box, the air becomes stale...."
Thanks for that, Motoged. How true! And thanks for your validation.
I hope others will keep this going. 
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Yes, we all need to breathe "in" once and a while while expelling our thoughts....
Keeping "it" going ...
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | Tony,
Thanks for that....
An American friend living in Baja has recently (past year) been exposed to Canadian tv news as he has been caretaking a place w/ satelite TV....and he
continues to comment on the difference that CBC, for instance, offers as professional reporting compared to USA networks....
One observation was that the Canadian newscaster seem to be real people, and not performers as much as the USA networks.
I think it would be interesting to see how other "Americans" perceive news casting and reporting away from the fetid styles of reporting coming out of
the alleged "us / them" US programs....BBC, CBC, and I am sure there are others....
If you live in a small box, the air becomes stale....
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yes, CBC is great. But we have the USA equivalent: PBS/NPR. CBC is public broadcasting canadian style.
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See, Perry.....there IS hope.....
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toneart
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by motoged | Tony,
Thanks for that....
An American friend living in Baja has recently (past year) been exposed to Canadian tv news as he has been caretaking a place w/ satelite TV....and he
continues to comment on the difference that CBC, for instance, offers as professional reporting compared to USA networks....
One observation was that the Canadian newscaster seem to be real people, and not performers as much as the USA networks.
I think it would be interesting to see how other "Americans" perceive news casting and reporting away from the fetid styles of reporting coming out of
the alleged "us / them" US programs....BBC, CBC, and I am sure there are others....
If you live in a small box, the air becomes stale....
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yes, CBC is great. But we have the USA equivalent: PBS/NPR. CBC is public broadcasting canadian style.
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Yes! I agree. Very interesting that Barry also cited PBS/NPR as reliable news sources. How he can come to his conclusions just astounds me, but he and
I have had that discussion many times. He may defy my stereotypical characterization of Conservatives living in a small box. ...Different worlds
indeed!  At least he can wander out of the Wall Street Journal (Murdock), Fox (News ?) CNBC and find his way back home.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by toneart | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by motoged | Tony,
Thanks for that....
An American friend living in Baja has recently (past year) been exposed to Canadian tv news as he has been caretaking a place w/ satelite TV....and he
continues to comment on the difference that CBC, for instance, offers as professional reporting compared to USA networks....
One observation was that the Canadian newscaster seem to be real people, and not performers as much as the USA networks.
I think it would be interesting to see how other "Americans" perceive news casting and reporting away from the fetid styles of reporting coming out of
the alleged "us / them" US programs....BBC, CBC, and I am sure there are others....
If you live in a small box, the air becomes stale....
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yes, CBC is great. But we have the USA equivalent: PBS/NPR. CBC is public broadcasting canadian style.
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Yes! I agree. Very interesting that Barry also cited PBS/NPR as reliable news sources. How he can come to his conclusions just astounds me, but he and
I have had that discussion many times. He may defy my stereotypical characterization of Conservatives living in a small box. ...Different worlds
indeed! At least he can wander out of the Wall Street Journal (Murdock), Fox (News ?) CNBC and find his way back home. |
Tony (etc.) I do listen to NPR daily, and watch the TV news on PBS, as well as FNC, FBN, and occasionally CNN and even MSNBC. I "come to the
conclusions" that I come too because the existing system and Republican ideals has worked so incredibly well for me and mine that I am very skeptical
when I hear left-leaning pundits say or infer that it is broken, or needs changing. Also, I am a strict Fiscal Conservative, a Constitutionalist, and
was raised in a very Conservative Republican Family, and that serves as a filter for EVERYTHING I hear and read.
I am equally astounded as you when I hear the ideas of the left, as well as the many complaints they constantly are voicing, and wonder how in the
world they can come to their conclusions------and I say that very seriously, and not being sarcastic.
Barry
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You are very clear, Barry. Thank you!
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