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woody with a view
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get some for the front as well since they are adjustable you can level or raise the front.
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Bob53
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I did. Front and rear.
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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woody with a view
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wow! my fronts were +/- $90. you scored! when we going south?
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Bob53
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Heading down to San Quintin in a week or two. Back down to my house at Bahia around 10/1 for two weeks.
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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David K
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OKAY, got the front 5100's on today, and set the lift to the first level up from stock (0.85 inches), of the 4 choices (stock, 0.85", 1.75", 2.50").
Next, get the front end alignment checked/ adjusted, as recommended with any front lift.
No photos, and I only drove 5 miles on them, but the truck rides great on the freeway and street, so far.
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Bob53
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Mine rides very nice as well after installing the 5100's.
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CortezBlue
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Air bags only take the bad ride up and down and send it side to side.
You will learn to hate them.
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David K
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Not in my case... I had them (these same ones) for three years on my 2005 Tacoma before. It has too soft rear springs and needed help. The Ride Rites
solved the issue perfectly!
My 2010 Tacoma had much better rear springs, but after 5 years now, they could use some help... and the Ride Rites are again doing a perfect job. You
do understand the stock leaf springs stay on the truck and the air bags simply replace the bump stops giving you adjustable ride height/ and
firmness... i.e. no bottoming out. The stock suspension still controls the side to side issue I think you are talking about.
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bajatrailrider
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David What Cortezblue said on airbags is true. I have installed them on many rigs.Complaints side to side from people. I dont remember what brand.If
it has air fill valve with Y fitting.One fitting to fill both bags.thats is your enemy.Install one fill valve,per bag.No more side to side
rocking,they work perfect that way. Also My Deisel Nissan I bought KYBs front HD gas shocks.Junk truck bottomed out everywhere,blew out seals/oil on
shocks 1 month later.Put 5100s on,works like million bucks no more bottoming out.
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David K
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Yes thanks Larry. My air bags have independent fill valves so no side to side issues. The 5100s are great for our needs I believe.
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David K
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Had new brake pads installed today by my Vista mechanic, Jason (he races motorcycles and used to race Baja)... Gave me a chance to take a photo of the
front Bilstein 5100s, since I was not there when he installed them last Saunday...
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rts551
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Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Not in my case... I had them (these same ones) for three years on my 2005 Tacoma before. It has too soft rear springs and needed help. The Ride Rites
solved the issue perfectly!
My 2010 Tacoma had much better rear springs, but after 5 years now, they could use some help... and the Ride Rites are again doing a perfect job. You
do understand the stock leaf springs stay on the truck and the air bags simply replace the bump stops giving you adjustable ride height/ and
firmness... i.e. no bottoming out. The stock suspension still controls the side to side issue I think you are talking about.
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After 5 years and the springs need "help". I don't understand. Toyota springs wear out?
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chuckie
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OH MY! Toyota made in Mexico showing wear? (Drum roll-lightning strike) Aside from that I have airbags on Smokey, mixed feelings on them...I am going
to install the Bilsteins front and back before I leave on the fall Safari....Report will follow eventually.....
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chuckie
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DK...FYI: The parts vendors show that the Springs for the 2005 and 2010 are the same spring, same part number....I bet yours were "special"
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rts551
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Pictures too chuckie....lots of them......want to see if they look like mine. maybe the colors changed....do you call your Billies as well?
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chuckie
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No, I call them "spendy"....
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John M
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Rear spring saga
My 2006 Tacoma 4x4 had a three leaf with overload leaf from the factory. A couple of years later Toyota did a "technical service bulletin" on the rear
springs - something to the effect that it wasn't a recall but if the customer complained about bottoming out then the dealer had an option to replace
with a four leaf + overload leaf. I convinced my local Toyota dealer that my truck qualified for the replacement and after quite a bit of back and
forth they did it. The parting comment from the service writer was "you know, no matter how harsh the new ride you can't get your old springs back!"
OK said I.
The four leaf was an improvement in carrying capacity I believe.
Now, within the past year Toyota announced they are doing another rear spring replacement for an issue involving one of the leafs breaking - or
something like that. I'm on the waiting list, have been more than six months for that magical phone call.
I decided not to wait and got Deaver 9 (or is it 10) leaf springs. What a ride difference, and loaded I don't hit the stock bump stops any more.
Maybe Toyota should contract with Deaver?? I run Bilstein 5100 on the rear but will upgrade to Icon reservoir shocks to match the front when I win the
lottery this Friday, or Sunday, or never.
John M
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | DK...FYI: The parts vendors show that the Springs for the 2005 and 2010 are the same spring, same part number....I bet yours were "special"
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I took photos of the spring numbers on the '05 and the '10 and they are different numbers.
Unless the otherwise identical 4 door 4WD Tacomas (2005 vs. 2010) somehow are different weights, the only explanation for why the 2010 did not
bottom-out at the same places the 2005 did would be better/ different rear springs on the 2010.
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David K
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Yes, do springs on GM trucks not wear out? Really??
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chuckie
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I got the data from Toyota and two independent suppliers...I'll call them in the morning and let them know they are wrong...
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