Well, DK lives in the past, still justifying his purchase of a nice lil truck...same old arguments, same avoidance of reality. Same lame comparisons
without facts. The Tacoma was and is a nice lil truck shaped vehicle....But not a truck....and not a really good buy either...or a good
performer...Lots better choices.....I am still struggling along with old Smokey....
You guys are funny. Reliable and capable are the two top reasons more Tacomas are on the road than all other brands of small or mid size trucks
combined. Not everyone needs or wants a big truck. Many trails cannot be accessed by full size puckups either. If we wanted better gas mileage, we
wouldn't get a truck or 4x4. My 2010 Tacoma is the best of my 3 Tacomas and it is made in Baja California, too! If you love Baja, it is an additional
feather to add in your cap.
Chevy (GM) quality vs. Toyota is no comparison. Ford is the same story. Everyone I know who got a Ranger were also disappointed... that was what I was
going to buy at first, back in 2000. Ford dealer didn't want my trade in, so over to Toyota (where Neal Johns and others suggested), and Toyota earned
my loyalty as it has with others... Now I am on my third Tacoma and my wife just got her second new Corolla... oh, what a feeling!
Really? My last Silverado went 205,000 sweat free miles---many Baja miles and mostly of the rest hauling loads for my landscape business--very well
built truck. My last Toyota Tacoma self-destructed before 60,000 miles, ending up with a seized engine on Hwy 287 amid the cotton fields of Texas.
Trucks, Tires, Religion, Politics, Climate Change, it is all the same, ain't going to change my mind.
I am right the other side is wrong.
I will defend my point cause it's my point.
Could there be a middle ground?
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
Trucks, Tires, Religion, Politics, Climate Change, it is all the same, ain't going to change my mind.
I am right the other side is wrong.
I will defend my point cause it's my point.
Could there be a middle ground?
I'm reminded of the sign on my work desk "Let's compromise and do it my way".
The argument that the Tacoma is not a good truck because it's not a "truck" is useless. It's just a question of definition and has nothing to do with
it's reliability.
One hauls cement, furniture, cabover campers and pulls trailers. The other floats over sand dunes and mudflats to take you to remote locations. Each
has its strengths and weaknesses.
LOL, well some of you misunderstand my passion for some need to conform. I do not care what you chose to drive in Baja, this thread is just for those
interested in what the new 3rd generation Tacoma is offering, since the Tacoma is (by far) the #1 small truck choice of Baja Nomads.
If you need a full-size gasoline truck, I recommend a Tundra, but the Ford Raptor is pretty cool once the weak spindle and any other issues are
addressed. In any case, this post was only for those wondering about the 2016 Tacoma and not meant to debate about other brands.
Two extremes. I am not buying any truck for reliability. Function over-rides all other considerations. There is a huge list that I work from for my
purchases. These two rigs are as far apart reliability wise as any two rigs (VW & Toy) I can think of. IMO, All other trucks are in between.
Surely fords and chevys are way closer to the Toyota than any VW such that many owners have never been back to the dealer. I guess its just luck of
the draw?
BTW, I did not appreciate the last Toyota I had, Reliability was not one of the things that was very good. I had numerous other functional complaints
and have not gone back to that brand.
If the fix the issues I am open to considering a Toy in the future.
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LOL, well some of you misunderstand my passion for some need to conform. I do not care what you chose to drive in Baja, this thread is just for those
interested in what the new 3rd generation Tacoma is offering, since the Tacoma is (by far) the #1 small truck choice of Baja Nomads.
If you need a full-size gasoline truck, I recommend a Tundra, but the Ford Raptor is pretty cool once the weak spindle and any other issues are
addressed. In any case, this post was only for those wondering about the 2016 Tacoma and not meant to debate about other brands.
Tundra is at the bottom of the list in almost all reviews....but yes it shows what brand loyalty can do.
To me it's not a big thing what brand others choose to drive. It all comes down to personal preferences and should be decided based on how/where you
drive and budget. I have owned quite a few different 4x4 brands/models over the years, personally and for business use. I have seen it all. Range
Rover, GMC, Toyota, Mercedes, Ford, Jeep, Dodge and more. Each had their good/bad sides and after all that experience I choose to stick with Ford. I
currently have two F150's and an Expedition, all 4x4's and all have served me extremely well. I take excellent mechanical care of all my vehicles. My
2004 F-150 is about to go over 200K miles and it looks and runs like new; not even so much as a squeak or rattle and the 4x4 performs flawlessly.
Living where we do it does test your vehicle and my Fords have never let me down. My GMC and Dodge trucks never did either but the GMC started
developing squeaks and rattles at about 80K miles and the interior details didn't hold up so well on my Dodge over the washboard either. My mechanic
was spending more time with my Jeep than I did - never anything major, but always one small thing after another.
Over the years we suffered catastrophic failures by Mercedes, Range Rover and Toyota, in spite of all the regular maintenance and care. They all
performed well up to 50K miles but after that, problems began to occur. My experience is that these brands and others are good for occasional
off-road, rugged use but over the long haul they simply were not designed to take the daily abuse of washboard/rocky conditions and other wear and
tear that comes with living out here where we do.
I have many friends who own and love their Toyotas. Not one of them drive their trucks under the daily conditions that I do. You just have to match
your vehicle to your personal preferences, lifestyle and budget.
I think that it is very cool to drive a truck that was built in Baja.
Thanks Ron... as you and other state, nothing is 100% perfect. So, we just have to come close!
Ford is highly regarded here and perhaps the best big truck for most Nomads? My dad's last vehicle was a Ford wagon, and it made the Baja run before
the highway was completed... Nothing went wrong with it, but it was a 1973 model, and most American brands were still all great back then!
Again, this thread is only about the new 3rd Gen Tacoma features for those interested... sorry it got to become a debate on models or brands.
Ron, you are absolutely correct....plus you have to keep up with the current models. Rams have updated their models to be top rated...and
GMC/Chevrolet (oh my god) are rated half way decently, Ford has their new aluminum body 150.. the world changes...for some.
Ron, you are absolutely correct....plus you have to keep up with the current models. Rams have updated their models to be top rated...and
GMC/Chevrolet (oh my god) are rated half way decently, Ford has their new aluminum body 150.. the world changes...for some.
My only problem with going with the very newest models down here away from the border is that they tend to have a lot more electronics which in turn
means a lot more sensors = a lot more that can (and will) go wrong. It is relatively easy to get a correct mechanical diagnosis down here as well as
parts for trucks that are 5-10 years old. New models, not so much.
Not that I am not tempted by the new trucks out there...
I became more comfortable as people (government/ranchos/businesses) started using the newer truck...requiring more electronic diagnostics. The new
vehicles--everything, including the radio, is computer controlled.
2016 Taco Limited with a 5' bed? Shocking. It's a good truck, drove one awhile back, got a F-150. Have had a couple F150s, one F250 and
current F350 (6.0 SRW, Lariat, crew cab, Super Duty, turbo diesel. Around 24 mpg highway, about 12 mpg towing my 3k pound CRV. Best truck I
ever had.
The Taco would work with a camper shell or folding camper. Pay Load isn't there but it's a nice pickup. Friend has a newer Tundra that I don't
think much of. He loves it.
Taco can go in the sand and a better Baja vehicle. Won't be taking my 7k pound diesel to the beach. It tows my 15k pound 5ver like it's not
there.
Check back on the Chevy Colorado in a couple years. It's too new.
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What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen.
The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back
if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt
"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes
"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others
cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn
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