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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 09:23 AM


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You are so tolerant. I would have put up 4 pages of maps.




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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 09:33 AM


What's the map for? How does it relate to this thread?

You have your answer as to why some are bothered by this man.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 09:34 AM


Quote: Originally posted by larryC  
David
You are so tolerant. I would have put up 4 pages of maps.


4 pages of maps is called acting out. Kids do that.




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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 09:40 AM


I have a serious problem with David's maps. They make me get lost for hours in my maps and collected data - comparing names and locations. I get nothing else done those days. Luckily nobody is breathing down my neck to fix the kitchen sink or other rather unimportant things.

However, I have learned so much from Sensei David about Baja that I am very grateful.

Keep them coming David!




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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 09:42 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
What's the map for? How does it relate to this thread?

You have your answer as to why some are bothered by this man.


to some people you have to explain every joke - and it doesn't help the joke




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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 09:43 AM


OP, NO one here 'hates', 'wants to deck him', a little juvenile
don't you think? As mentioned, these exchanges go back to
'96 or so, back to the Amigos de Baja days, 'the gotchas', 'I know than you do'. Bullied? I think he thoroughly enjoys the sparing.
A couple different camps here on issues, no doubt. But he does
not need a support group,
a pity party, he more than defends himself. Hillary? No kidding, he has
come a long way. My favorite is the hand drawn map to
Calamajue. OP. raising the bar next time would be appreciated


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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 09:47 AM


All I can say is Ted Cruz for President.



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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 10:09 AM


The DK I Know:

As many of you know, I'm a guy with some pretty fringe theories about Baja (http://bofmmodel.org), and a few years ago I thought I had stumbled across Google Earth images of a "lost mission" in a remote arroyo there. Basically everyone on Nomad thought I was nuts, but those same people were also very welcoming of me as a new member, nuts or not.

Despite the fact that DK was certain that I was wrong, he spent considerable time and effort helping me search for information regarding the site and regarding lost mission myths. But his help didn't stop there, he was also instrumental in organizing a trip that eight awesome nomads took to the site, including a couple of the Nomads who have posted in this thread. They drove, they camped, they completed a difficult hike down the arroyo and back. The result? ...well... It turns out that I was nuts :no: but I gained some real friends here on Nomad, not the least of whom is DK:)

As I continue my fringe studies of the peninsula, I occasionally ping DK when I have questions or when I want an informed opinion about its history. What I like about DK is that even though he thinks my fringe theories are nuts, he's always willing to offer help and opinions whenever he can. Compare that to how people treat him in return when they think he is nuts.

Sure, he drinks a lot more "conservative Kool-Aid" than me and a lot of others here on Nomad, but does that really justify the personal attacks?

Sure, I'm nuts in my own ways, and DK is nuts in his own ways and all y'all are nuts in your own ways, but that's really no excuse for not being civil with each other.

Like many here on Nomad, DK has a love for Baja and enjoys sharing it with others. Enjoy what you think is good about his posts, correct what you think is incorrect about his posts if you must, but above all, just enjoy his company. He's a great guy with a great heart.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 10:09 AM


You'd think he'd give up on denying global warming at this point.

I must say I will never go to Shell Island or that dumpy hotel in El Rosario. And thank god Camp Gecko is closed to campers!

I'm definitely a hater.

I have been happily married for 27 years though.

See the sun...keep on scrolling.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 10:20 AM


How many of us Nomads have ever met David face-to-face?

I generally go way out of my way to exchange greetings (and beers or other beverages) with Nomads, when traveling the peninsula. At least there is a face to connect with when communicating on this board. I notice the overwhelming majority don't even bother with a photo of themselves.

Would you attempt to say what you are directing to someone on this board if you were face-to-face? Probably not, since this board seems to bring an anonymity to the poster.

David has a very thick skin.




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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 10:26 AM


Lol, That was perfect! Salud DK!

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
My name is David
I am addicted to Baja California
I like sharing and helping

I love you all!
Thank you.

Here is a map from 1972...


Have a nice day!



Now, please have fun in life!

[Edited on 2-11-2016 by David K]




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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 10:50 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Udo  
How many of us Nomads have ever met David face-to-face?

I generally go way out of my way to exchange greetings (and beers or other beverages) with Nomads, when traveling the peninsula. At least there is a face to connect with when communicating on this board. I notice the overwhelming majority don't even bother with a photo of themselves.

Would you attempt to say what you are directing to someone on this board if you were face-to-face? Probably not, since this board seems to bring an anonymity to the poster.

David has a very thick skin.


I agree, Udo... even if we disagree about ideas we have, when we have met in person and talked, we can better respect each other's rights to have different opinions. Or at least, if we say BS to each other, it is followed by a laugh and a beer.

Shortly after getting on the Internet and Baja forums, I wanted to meet the other 'crazy Baja nuts' that existed. It was fun to know others afflicted with "Baja Fever"! We had a get-together out on the San Clemente pier early in 2000 so TimsBaja and I could meet. I brought Graham with me up from San Diego and met several folks that Tim invited, some still here (Fernando de Tijuana, elgatoloco, Whistler) and some gone (Carlos Fiesta, Lorenzo de Baja). That casual meeting of a couple dozen of us is what led to the creation of my Viva Baja events to introduce posters, Baja web site creators, Baja book authors and Baja businesses. Photos of the four Viva Baja parties are linked at the bottom of my home page: http://vivabaja.com

Michelle (M, who was also at the San Clemente Pier meeting and my Viva Baja events) created her BBBB (Boojum Buddies Baja Bash) parties in Baja, there were 4.

Attending my Viva Baja #4 was Keri of the Pyramid Resort and seeing how cool the Baja book authors were at that event created her Pyramid Resort Book Signing and Wine Tasting events (there were 6 from 2003-2008).

Antonio 'BajaCactus' also wanted to meet the Baja Nomads and held his Baja Cultural Festivals for us in Tijuana (in 2004) and then in El Rosario (2005-2007) plus a Viva Baja Cactus tour and dinner in Tijuana in 2006.

It is about the people and sharing Baja and friendships. Do make an effort to meet others, reach out and introduce yourself, or at least, show your face. It can make a world of difference in how we can better appreciate Baja and each other.

I am here to make friends or at least, be friendly. It's okay to disagree, but don't get angry as neither of us will learn or be convinced of the other idea has validity.

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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 10:56 AM


His Love of Baja undoubted, but I am not a fan of DK's. I think that this is one of the few place he get's to shine and be somebody. There are many here that love that he will do their basic research for them. Having said that, he will not change and I have take my own advice about teaching pigs.

Some of us would like to keep a few places of the radar and nomadlandia a little longer.



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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 11:12 AM


Don't believe we are our behaviors or opinions. David has a few, so do I.

I've been a David fan from the beginning and still am. Don't care what his religious or political views are. He is a Master of many things.

I look forward to having a beer with him and laughing -- same with Udo. Lots of decent people here who are passionate about ideas. I've met shari and Kashydog. They added value to my life.

Salud, David. And Udo.




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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 11:25 AM


Quote: Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R  
All I can say is Ted Cruz for President.


where have you been? We needed you urgently for the Santa Rosalia incident.




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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 11:28 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
What's the map for? How does it relate to this thread?

You have your answer as to why some are bothered by this man.


to some people you have to explain every joke - and it doesn't help the joke


A joke? I don't think so.

You don't like maps? I'll post one then. That's the David I've known for years. A passive-aggressive character who gets off on this sort of thing.

Virtually every remark willardguy made is true. If there is an altercation on this board you can almost bet David is at the bottom of it. A misunderstood man? I think I understand him just fine.

Well, everything except the support for Clinton. That's unbelievable.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 11:35 AM


so David....at these meet and greets to enjoy other nomad's company and talk all things baja do you immediately bust out your perverted thoughts on obama, gore, big government, climate change, big government, blah blah blah? you know, face to face while enjoying that shared beer?
or is it not the place, yet BN is?
I challenge anyone to search any of those key words by david and read page after page of davids political rants.
left, right, red, blue, I could care less, but let me reiterate, IS THIS THE PLACE FOR IT?????
now Doug HAS a place for it, its called the OT and maybe SpecialK needs to grow a pair and take his chit over there?
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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 11:40 AM


Hi....my name is Ged and I am a Baja addict.

I have had no problem sharing my face and opinions on this forum.

My first experience with David K was through this forum and his Got Baja? stickers....or one other of them....and proudly stuck it on my tailgate. I then enjoyed his maps and location/lore information he shares.

My political views differ from his and I took the low road (brecha) and have insulted DK more than once. I even U2U'd him a few years ago to apologize and called a moratorium on my intolerant behaviour....but fell from grace before too long.

While I can't teach a pig to sing, I seem able to annoy myself with my own form of bigotry ( def: " intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself."). This realization has helped me reduce the frequency of my singing lessons.

Should David and I ever meet personally, I don't doubt that we might enjoy each others company....and I don't doubt I would express my views even if they were in disagreement....so I don't hide behind my keyboard. Should such an event occur and either of us find the encounter unenjoyable, I trust that we could both handle that.

I have challenged David on his use of the term "hater" as I consider it a juvenile manner of describing differing views and rhetoric....kinda like the "Like" button Facebook Kulture has bestowed upon us.

David, thanks for the maps.

As a Baja addict, I am taking my Ninth Step.... I regret my disrespectful comments and will strive to not repeat such behaviour.

Can I join the group hug?





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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 11:53 AM


People should keep their politics to themselves on this part of the message board. The OT part is the appropriate place.

Does anyone disagree?

David K. has reduced the number of political statements he makes, but in the past he made clear his conservative views and often they included insults to those who have liberal views. Many times those posts caused disagreement and hostility between nomads.

If he had kept his politics to himself or posted them in off topic, this thread would not exist.




[Edited on 2-11-2016 by SFandH]
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[*] posted on 2-11-2016 at 11:55 AM


Ah the "internet" what a great way to get to know people.....who cares about touring Tijuana and Baja, a four wheel expedition, a book signing, learning about the missions around a campfire or listening to Grahams adventures. You can learn everything you need to know on the old "interweb"....... I know David personally, and I like him!
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