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San Ignacio 8 to 9 months a year, rent year round . Lovely town and and great people . One hour from The Pacific and One hour from the Sea of Cortez .
Not to many of us there .
We all want a peaceful world, filled with love and laughter, but we fill ourselves with anger and hate trying to fiqure out how to achive it.
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I think of Punta Banda as being part of "Greater" Ensenada. I don't disagree that it is very nice, and that there are lots of gringos there.
What's the thought behind the original question? Is having more Americans a good thing, or a bad thing? Do Canadians count as "Americans" in this
context?
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JZ
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Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  | I think of Punta Banda as being part of "Greater" Ensenada. I don't disagree that it is very nice, and that there are lots of gringos there.
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Just curious. Yes, I almost put Americans/Canadians.
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Lee
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El Pescadero then Todos.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider | I think of Punta Banda as being part of "Greater" Ensenada. I don't disagree that it is very nice, and that there are lots of gringos there.
What's the thought behind the original question? Is having more Americans a good thing, or a bad thing? Do Canadians count as "Americans" in this
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Just curious. Yes, I almost put Americans/Canadians.
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They should since citizens of Mexico, USA, and Canada are all North Americans.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: Originally posted by J.P. | I have lived a lot of places in my lifetime and PUNTA BANDA has the best weather year around and a lot of the convinces previously stated. but as a
community it Total Sucks.
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That's because you never learned how to blend in peacefully like I did.
Just kidding, John. Hope all is well.
By the way.....you are completely correct.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider | I think of Punta Banda as being part of "Greater" Ensenada. I don't disagree that it is very nice, and that there are lots of gringos there.
What's the thought behind the original question? Is having more Americans a good thing, or a bad thing? Do Canadians count as "Americans" in this
context? |
Just curious. Yes, I almost put Americans/Canadians.
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They should since citizens of Mexico, USA, and Canada are all North Americans.
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Yes, but isn't interesting that Mexicans refer to U.S. citizens (and maybe Canadians too?) as "norteamericanos" but to themselves as "mexicanos"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider | I think of Punta Banda as being part of "Greater" Ensenada. I don't disagree that it is very nice, and that there are lots of gringos there.
What's the thought behind the original question? Is having more Americans a good thing, or a bad thing? Do Canadians count as "Americans" in this
context? |
Pure and simple, this is how it is in my eyes. There are enclaves of expats from here and there who congregate within....well, in....communities with
gates. They only venture out to shop or visit others of their...uhhh....type. They don't assimilate with the local community, and have no desire
to.
They can't read the street signs nor can they follow news of events in their own front yard in papers or TV.
They live in ghettos, and wallow in their sense of adventure living in a foreign land. La Joya beachcamp in PB is a good example.
I don't say this is a bad thing. It has its advantages from a security and social point of view.
The issue for me is they have no desire to learn and mix with the culture they have joined, and that's their choice. I appreciate that, but can't
understand why.
To belabor the points made just a bit more.....saying we are all Americans is right, but wrong. Mexicans are Mexicans, and Canadians are just that,
Canadians.
We, from the US are Americans by common classification. There are those with questionable motives, who would like to strip us of our name.... OUR
NAME....Americans ...and leave us nameless, that I won't tolerate. That is racist boolllsheit.
Yankee Doodle
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[Edited on 8-9-2016 by DENNIS]
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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bajabuddha
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I prefer "Red-Blooded Human" myself. Anything else is 'racist boolsheit'. Got no problem with anyone from anywhere; if they do, it's THEIR PROBLEM.
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freediverbrian
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Quote from Dennis
Pure and simple, this is how it is in my eyes. There are enclaves of expats from here and there who congregate within....well, in....communities with
gates. They only venture out to shop or visit others of their...uhhh....type. They don't assimilate with the local community, and have no desire
to.
They can't read the street signs nor can they follow news of events in their own front yard in papers or TV.
They live in ghettos, and wallow in their sense of adventure living in a foreign land. La Joya beachcamp in PB is a good example.
I don't say this is a bad thing. It has its advantages from a security and social point of view.
The issue for me is they have no desire to learn and mix with the culture they have joined, and that's their choice. I appreciate that, but can't
understand why.
You just described the history of imagration to the US or any other country give the ex Pat's a generation or two and they will assimilate
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[Edited on 8-9-2016 by DENNIS][/rquote]
[Edited on 8-9-2016 by freediverbrian]
[Edited on 8-9-2016 by freediverbrian]
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shari
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that is one thing I appreciate about Bahia Asuncion that there are no gringo enclaves and people all live spread out dispersed in the village so
integrate more into their neighbourhoods. Perhaps that is why the local attitude is generally positive towards the immigrants.
I wonder what the order is of gringo populations per capita in the towns and cities here. Maybe someone can do a poll or an investigation into this.
PS: it would have been nice to have put Americans/Canadians/Europeans or perhaps expats instead of just Americans.
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David K
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"Non-natives", perhaps?
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we are right behind Bahia Asuncion people-wise. There are 9 of us full timers. and 4 regular part-timers.
We are all spread out and all of us have our local protective angels, who "take care" of us when the going gets tough. It is very wonderful!
Every town surely has its charm - each one so radically different from the next.
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tiotomasbcs
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Don't over anylyze! Come down and find your place or don't. It was easy for me, I have as many Local friends as Nortes! After a few years things
change, too. I'd prefer TJ just cause I don't want any more .... No secrets revealed. Quiet, Lee. Tio
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
Pure and simple, this is how it is in my eyes. There are enclaves of expats from here and there who congregate within....well, in....communities with
gates. They only venture out to shop or visit others of their...uhhh....type. They don't assimilate with the local community, and have no desire
to.
They can't read the street signs nor can they follow news of events in their own front yard in papers or TV.
They live in ghettos, and wallow in their sense of adventure living in a foreign land. La Joya beachcamp in PB is a good example.
I don't say this is a bad thing. It has its advantages from a security and social point of view.
The issue for me is they have no desire to learn and mix with the culture they have joined, and that's their choice. I appreciate that, but can't
understand why.
To belabor the points made just a bit more.....saying we are all Americans is right, but wrong. Mexicans are Mexicans, and Canadians are just that,
Canadians.
We, from the US are Americans by common classification. There are those with questionable motives, who would like to strip us of our name.... OUR
NAME....Americans ...and leave us nameless, that I won't tolerate. That is racist boolllsheit.
Yankee Doodle
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The old Gringo enclave rant. We've heard it on here for 15 years, so not sure why you are taking your time to type it out for the 12,487th time. Get
out there and take some pictures and post those, i.e. some fresh material.
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JZ
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No kidding. It was a simple question. What are the most populated areas for Americans/Canadians (which no one seems to know the answer to) and
what's your favorite spot if you had a choice. Somehow the 2nd question got many all riled up and ranting about this and that.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider | I think of Punta Banda as being part of "Greater" Ensenada. I don't disagree that it is very nice, and that there are lots of gringos there.
What's the thought behind the original question? Is having more Americans a good thing, or a bad thing? Do Canadians count as "Americans" in this
context? |
Just curious. Yes, I almost put Americans/Canadians.
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They should since citizens of Mexico, USA, and Canada are all North Americans.
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Yes, but isn't interesting that Mexicans refer to U.S. citizens (and maybe Canadians too?) as "norteamericanos" but to themselves as "mexicanos"
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and USA citizens refer to themselves as Americans.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS | | Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider | I think of Punta Banda as being part of "Greater" Ensenada. I don't disagree that it is very nice, and that there are lots of gringos there.
What's the thought behind the original question? Is having more Americans a good thing, or a bad thing? Do Canadians count as "Americans" in this
context? |
Pure and simple, this is how it is in my eyes. There are enclaves of expats from here and there who congregate within....well, in....communities with
gates. They only venture out to shop or visit others of their...uhhh....type. They don't assimilate with the local community, and have no desire
to.
They can't read the street signs nor can they follow news of events in their own front yard in papers or TV.
They live in ghettos, and wallow in their sense of adventure living in a foreign land. La Joya beachcamp in PB is a good example.
I don't say this is a bad thing. It has its advantages from a security and social point of view.
The issue for me is they have no desire to learn and mix with the culture they have joined, and that's their choice. I appreciate that, but can't
understand why.
To belabor the points made just a bit more.....saying we are all Americans is right, but wrong. Mexicans are Mexicans, and Canadians are just that,
Canadians.
We, from the US are Americans by common classification. There are those with questionable motives, who would like to strip us of our name.... OUR
NAME....Americans ...and leave us nameless, that I won't tolerate. That is racist boolllsheit.
Yankee Doodle
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[Edited on 8-9-2016 by DENNIS] |
Dennis, If Mexicans are Mexicans, and Canadians are, well Canadians, Then we are USAns.
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bajabuddha
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Many years ago I took a 'Spanish for Adults and Dummies' class (Adult Ed.) and first night the instructor reminded all of us that from the southern
Panama border to Santa's house we're all Norte Americanos, including Canada. Mexico is actually Los Estados Unidos de Mexico, has 31 States and a
Federal Zone just like our Washington D.C. If you have to define races by imaginary lines you might as well build a wall around them...... oh, La
Jolla already did......
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David K
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Not sure we are on the same page or not?
Several countries and territories, north of Colombia are part of North America, a continent.
Mexico's official name (in English here) is United Mexican States, not United States of Mexico. In either case, the people are Mexican citizens.
Our (USA) official name is United States of America. The people of the USA are American citizens.
People in North America are diverse and to only identify with their continent would not identify much about themselves. So, we proudly identify with
the nation we are a citizen of.
So, we are all from North America, perhaps. But, we are Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Jamaicans, Nicaraguans, etc. more.
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