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motoged
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Yeah, but....going on 94 to Otay Lakes Road puts you in Eastlake. Every store known to civilized man is within a couple of miles on Eastlake Parkway.
Can't give mileage, but it's around twelve miles from Tecate. Another five miles down the road [which changes its name to telegraph Canyon], and you
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Yes, and it's such a pretty drive along Telegraph Canyon road to 805...with an AAA office in the mall just east of 805....pick up a Baja map...
Don't believe everything you think....
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Wear your seat belt on 94. Casino opened today, free liquor is flowing. We are taking bets for date/time of first head on fatality due to drunk
gambler.
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
Yeah, but....going on 94 to Otay Lakes Road puts you in Eastlake. Every store known to civilized man is within a couple of miles on Eastlake Parkway.
Can't give mileage, but it's around twelve miles from Tecate. Another five miles down the road [which changes its name to telegraph Canyon], and you
hit the 805. |
...its 27 miles from the Tecate border to Eastlake Pwy. in Eastlake where you will find three shopping centers: Vons Mall, Village Walk and Eastlake
Village Market Place; about 2 miles south from Otay Lakes Rd on Eastlake Pwy. there's 2 more shopping centers: Otay Ranch Town Center and another Vons
center... more info here:
http://www.eastlakeshopper.com/eastlake_shopping_centers.htm...
..down west on H street there's a Costco... a lot of options...
[Edited on 10-10-2016 by carlosg]
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Casino grand opening today created traffic jam on 94 stretching from jamul to RSD. Road is essentially grid locked. People lining up to throw their
money away! Who ever heard of such a crazy thing?
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Gulliver
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Where is this new casino? In Tecate?
[Edited on 10-11-2016 by Gulliver]
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casino ..
http://www.hollywoodcasinojamul.com/About/Directions
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Wear your seat belt on 94. Casino opened today, free liquor is flowing. We are taking bets for date/time of first head on fatality due to drunk
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I thought it was illegal in California to give away liquor. Free booze is considered an enticement to drink as well as a liability issue for the
house.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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It shows the "Jamul Indian Village." What an overstatement. I used to do a daily walk through there a while back, and it didn't take long. About
twenty old houses is all there was.
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Tribal sovereignty, and its self-governance, allows them to do things on reservation land than otherwise. Including gambling.
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Will members of the tribe split the profits?
Lots of Mexicans will be crossing at Tecate to visit the casino. More traffic.
The tribe has a winner (the house) on their hands.
[Edited on 10-11-2016 by SFandH]
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
It shows the "Jamul Indian Village." What an overstatement. I used to do a daily walk through there a while back, and it didn't take long. About
twenty old houses is all there was. |
I can remember that back in the 60's while riding with my dad on our way back to Tecate I could only see -from Hwy 94- a couple (5-10) run down white
shacks and old abandoned cars on the hill with clotheslines and a couple of people and animals moving around.
| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | | Tribal sovereignty, and its self-governance, allows them to do things on reservation land than otherwise. Including gambling.
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As far as I can remember I was told that land was given to them by Mr Daley who had a beautiful horse ranch at the bottom of the hill (east on 94) and
who on owned (owns) all the land around them, these people worked for him and were provided with a place to live: federal reservation? At one point
this was one of the issues presented by the residents battling the casino... last night traffic was backed up to the freeway... someone mentioned that
it usually takes 20 minutes to drive home: last night 2 hours!!!
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I come in to Tecate from Anza Borrego so I probably won't get my tires too sticky on the blood and alcohol.
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So evidently there were other opinions about the "reservation" lands. And the tribe had to purchase additional contiguous land to have enough for the
size of casino they envisioned (with maximum slots). And somehow they sidestepped an EIR. And it opened before the promised Caltrans improvements.
"... attorney who has waged a one-man legal war against the Jamul band's casino plans, disputes Mesa's claim that newly acquired land would make
gaming legal. It's one of a few fronts on which he's fought the war against the casino. "[The Indians] believe," Webb says, "that if that land was in
trust status, that it would qualify to allow Indian gaming to take place on it. [My clients] do not believe that is what the statute says. The
National Indian Gaming Statute says that you have to have a reservation that is either declared as a reservation by the President, by Congress, or by
a treaty ratified by the Senate."
Mesa says that's only half of the story. "The federal regulations on that issue say you can game on land contiguous [to a previously existing
reservation]. And all the land we're buying is contiguous to the original land."
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Given the generally wretched treatment those "Pesky Redskins" have gotten from us Europeans, including the Spanish, the whole Gadsden "Purchase"
should be given to a neutral party (the indians) and let them build casinos to their (and our) hearts content.
Tobacco, lotteries and gambling of those sorts are just a tax on stupidity, retarded math skills and the associated class issues. Taxes that I mostly
don't pay. Hurrah!
My tribal friends here in the N.W. look at the parking lots at the casino and say, "White gold!".
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DENNIS
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Consider today's world if Custer had just one machine gun.
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Consider todays world if the locals had had some immunity to european diseases and some sort of tamable beasts of burden.
The americas and Africa didn't have big animals that are tamable. Imagine the europeans running into Zulu warriors mounted on rhinos! Yeehaw!
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Truly spoken by one of the Deplorables....shame on you, Dennis. 
Don't believe everything you think....
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Tribes can purchase land and place it in trust, thereby making it part of their sovereign lands.
It is ironic genius that small, poor tribes in California are now fleecing the gringos!
Personally, I haven't gambled in many years. Gambling is only for fools. (I'm glad the Indians are fleecing those fools.)
| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | So evidently there were other opinions about the "reservation" lands. And the tribe had to purchase additional contiguous land to have enough for the
size of casino they envisioned (with maximum slots). And somehow they sidestepped an EIR. And it opened before the promised Caltrans improvements.
"... attorney who has waged a one-man legal war against the Jamul band's casino plans, disputes Mesa's claim that newly acquired land would make
gaming legal. It's one of a few fronts on which he's fought the war against the casino. "[The Indians] believe," Webb says, "that if that land was in
trust status, that it would qualify to allow Indian gaming to take place on it. [My clients] do not believe that is what the statute says. The
National Indian Gaming Statute says that you have to have a reservation that is either declared as a reservation by the President, by Congress, or by
a treaty ratified by the Senate."
Mesa says that's only half of the story. "The federal regulations on that issue say you can game on land contiguous [to a previously existing
reservation]. And all the land we're buying is contiguous to the original land."
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DENNIS
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I am honored. "One of the Deplorables?" Me?
I've finally made the big time.
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