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Maybe salt changes the deal, but wet ice alone I had always been a drain the melted ice water out daily guy... until I did a side by side comparison.
If you're not driving, leave the melt water in. Drain if you are driving or to keep food from getting soaked, but the melt water is colder than air
that replaces it if drained. Ice in the chest with water (and even opened more) lasted longer than the chest I drained .
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Then why do I spread salt on the ice in my driveway to help melt it??
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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Unmolested (not going for a beer every 1/2 hr) coolers without question last a long time... A common sense "given" and happy to see so many responses
reminding me about this fact of life. The constant drain off process is also a fact as is death and taxes.
The salt thing, Shari, has me perplexed. Having spent some years living in snow country, we sprinkled salt on our walkways to MELT away snow and ice.
Help me out onetime with this theory.
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https://stuffexplained.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/adding_salt_...
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If you leave the drain plug open in the cooler that's like not having a cooler at all. The warm air enters through the vent and circulates inside the
cooler. The mixture of warm to cold is not as great as if the lid was off but still very bad for your goal.
[Edited on 11-24-2016 by Skipjack Joe]
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Sound advice SJoe. Drain and cap. I like to transfer the saved (clean)runoff to my cartop road shower . The salt thing seems like a tradeoff if you
dont want melt in you cooler.
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My wife works where they have a walk in freezer , we put the yeti in the freezer for a day before loading food . Load with frozen food don't open ,
three days later all food still frozen. No ice just food. If no access to a freezer I would cool the ice chest with ice before loading.
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I'm a Coleman Extreme kind of guy as to bang for the buck. I hate my food getting wet so I go to thrift stores and find a large plastic Rubbermaid or
Tupperware container that basically fits the cooler side to side...put the "good" food in there and have the ice rest against it. I always felt you
can't beat block ice from a real ice company...not the ones at the market. Add some dry ice to that...some frozen veggies on top...tape it shut and
keep it out of the sun and five days later you are good to go. The closing mechanism on the Extremes is a tad lame so just have a strap or two. And
yes, adding warm beer or drinks is a sin so if you drain off water, use it to pre chill them.
Hmmmmm...all this talk about beer...gotta go.
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Quote: Originally posted by redhilltown  | I'm a Coleman Extreme kind of guy as to bang for the buck. I hate my food getting wet so I go to thrift stores and find a large plastic Rubbermaid or
Tupperware container that basically fits the cooler side to side...put the "good" food in there and have the ice rest against it. I always felt you
can't beat block ice from a real ice company...not the ones at the market. Add some dry ice to that...some frozen veggies on top...tape it shut and
keep it out of the sun and five days later you are good to go. The closing mechanism on the Extremes is a tad lame so just have a strap or two. And
yes, adding warm beer or drinks is a sin so if you drain off water, use it to pre chill them.
Hmmmmm...all this talk about beer...gotta go. |
Great way indeed... I too, use Coleman Extreme 5 Day chests. That is how I could do a side-by-side comparison between draining and not draining while
camped 4 days in 90° weather. I really thought I could prove that draining was better... but was shocked when it wasn't!
At the end of 4 days, the chest with our drinks and melted water left in had a large piece of the block ice remaining. It began with one block and two
bags of crushed ice and the drinks (cans of cold beer and bottles of cold water).
The other chest with food, milk, juice began with two blocks of ice and one bag of crushed ice was drained daily (and the drain was closed after
draining, of course). In addition, this chest was not opened as much as the drink chest was.
On Day 4 the food chest that was drained daily was nearly out of ice, even though it began with twice the amount of block ice.
The drink chest, with the melted water left in still had about half the block of ice remaining.
Clearly, if you are not driving (and sloshing), leaving the melted water in with the ice helped it last longer.
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jeeze you guys, can we talk about something less divisive like the last election?
And I'm on the side of the Coleman Extremes, $100 will get you two of them and you're good to go. Good advise on the straps though, they are a bit
weak in that department.
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Always keep our ice chests covered with moving pads from harbor Freight .......seems to help add an extra layer of insulation
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Water is a great insulator. It takes a lot of heat to raise its temperature and a lot of cold to lower it. So if you leave the cold water in it will
keep the air cold and the ice will melt slower. But if the water is anywhere above freezing and you add ice to it, it will melt very fast, much faster
than in even warmer air. So unless the water already has ice chunks floating in the cooler the water should be drained before adding any ice.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe | | Water is a great insulator. It takes a lot of heat to raise its temperature and a lot of cold to lower it. So if you leave the cold water in it will
keep the air cold and the ice will melt slower. But if the water is anywhere above freezing and you add ice to it, it will melt very fast, much faster
than in even warmer air. So unless the water already has ice chunks floating in the cooler the water should be drained before adding any ice.
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"...water is anywhere above freezing..."
Y'all should remember your HS physics:
It takes 80 calories to melt 1 cc of ice; and
It takes 1 calorie to raise 1 gr of water 1 degree C.
[Edited on 11-26-2016 by mtgoat666]
[Edited on 11-26-2016 by mtgoat666]
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I haven't accessed this thread in a while, sorry for the late response - the only reason I mentioned that dry ice might be illegal to bring across is
precisely because it is illegal to take on a plane....
I will try to find out more info.
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Blanca, the aiplane ban prolly refers to the explosive realease of gas if your cooler is sealed tight and somehow water mixes with the dry ice. Google
dry ice bomb!
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