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Marc
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | dk, you claim to be a map guy. but your grasp of terminology is tenuous. you need to go back to maps 101 and learn the difference between "small
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Where are your maps smart guy?
Where are your contributions to help travelers here?
Where are your photos to brighten the day for those seeking a dose of Baja?
You love to nag nag nag and take from us who do contribute here... but give nearly nothing of value.
The McMahan big wall maps are 1" = 14 miles, AAA maps are 1" = 11 miles, the Nat Geo maps are 1"= 7.1 miles and the Almanac is 1" = 5.5 miles.
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JJJ's little brother. Most likely he's never been south of TJ. Never a trip report and never an image.
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DouglasP
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Quote: Originally posted by bajaric | Nat Geo maps are so so. Pretty good detail on watercourses, topography, and dirt tracks. Two major cons: One, no mileage logs between road
junctions. Two, instead of lat / long on the edge the map has weird NAD datum expressed as 34 80, 34 70 etc. Still have not figured that out. These
two things make the Nat Geo pretty much useless for navigation in the back country.
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Ric, are you referring to the blue numbers? those are UTMs. essentially a grid system covering the whole globe, uses meters, i use that all the
time to give me a quick estimate of distances, but then again I used UTMs alot when I was doing habitat mapping and modeling, so I'm familiar with
it. a lot simpler than converting degrees minutes and seconds into distances.
Another map I use for quick reference and travel is the Elimaps Baja California 2018 map. has all the gas stops camping places food tourist stops
etc. all on one page (N & S one side each). also has one of the mileage tables , also has all the dive places and shops as well. i find it
pretty handy, and easy to use
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Hey caj, where can the Elimaps be sourced?
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bajaric
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Quote: Originally posted by bajaric | Nat Geo maps are so so. Pretty good detail on watercourses, topography, and dirt tracks. Two major cons: One, no mileage logs between road
junctions. Two, instead of lat / long on the edge the map has weird NAD datum expressed as 34 80, 34 70 etc. Still have not figured that out. These
two things make the Nat Geo pretty much useless for navigation in the back country.
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Ric, are you referring to the blue numbers? those are UTMs. essentially a grid system covering the whole globe, uses meters, i use that all the
time to give me a quick estimate of distances, but then again I used UTMs alot when I was doing habitat mapping and modeling, so I'm familiar with
it. a lot simpler than converting degrees minutes and seconds into distances.
Another map I use for quick reference and travel is the Elimaps Baja California 2018 map. has all the gas stops camping places food tourist stops
etc. all on one page (N & S one side each). also has one of the mileage tables , also has all the dive places and shops as well. i find it
pretty handy, and easy to use
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UTM's? I just figured out how to convert degrees minutes and seconds to decimal degrees, don't need another learning curve! I have heard that OXXO /
Pemex sold a Baja Map but I have yet to get my hands on one, appears that is the Elimaps you mentioned? Not available on line that I can find.
Interesting to see Marcs old copy of International Travel Maps. I have the newer version from the same company, actually not a bad road map, pretty
good detail on dirt tracks, lat /long on the side, with mileage logs. The only thing is that the ungraded dirt tracks are in red and so small you
almost need a microscope to see them, at least with my eyes.
The Nat Geo map's main strength is that it is easy to read and it has the names of watercourses. So on the example above, you can see Arroyo
Cordonices. But Nat Geo does not show the Rancho of the same name, Cordonices, aka San Antonio, so not good detail on small ranchos. For what I do
(exploring old mining areas) I need both, so am glad I have the BCA. I wish I had bought 10 BCA's back when they were fifty bucks each. (Like the Nat
Geo, the new International Travel map is water proof. It is somewhat cumbersome to unfold these large, slightly slimy feeling plastic maps and I
actually prefer the old AAA maps for just getting from point a to point b)
regarding Goat, I don't mind him so much, sort of like Bernie Sanders; a little cranky, a little bit out there, but you have to admire his passion.
edit now I get it the metric grid system. easy to estimate distance by so many meters per grid. Historical footnote, one of the reasons the US never
adopted the metric system because land boundaries were established that were not easily changed to metric.
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[Edited on 10-22-2019 by bajaric]
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David K
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There will be a new map coming, but it may be a year or two away. I can't share any details other than to say don't worry too much as a quality
replacement for the Almanac is in the planning stages and I have met with the publishers. No, this is not my doing or my mapping (which is, by
admission, amateur). They just know of my passion for maps and desire to have no mistakes on maps of Baja! 
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Marc | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | dk, you claim to be a map guy. but your grasp of terminology is tenuous. you need to go back to maps 101 and learn the difference between "small
scale" and "large scale."
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Where are your maps smart guy?
Where are your contributions to help travelers here?
Where are your photos to brighten the day for those seeking a dose of Baja?
You love to nag nag nag and take from us who do contribute here... but give nearly nothing of value.
The McMahan big wall maps are 1" = 14 miles, AAA maps are 1" = 11 miles, the Nat Geo maps are 1"= 7.1 miles and the Almanac is 1" = 5.5 miles.
[Edited on 10-22-2019 by David K] |
JJJ's little brother. Most likely he's never been south of TJ. Never a trip report and never an image. |
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Bubba
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JJJ's little brother. Most likely he's never been south of TJ. Never a trip report and never an image. [/rquote]
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Pretty much. We know Jay Salman, aka JJJ has never been South of the border. Same with Chuckles, he hangs out in the Kansas prairies with nothing to
substantiate his time in Baja.
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