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[*] posted on 10-23-2020 at 08:22 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Because 'United Statian' sounds dumb. ;)


But it would fit !!!! Make America great again, ts, ts, ts, Trumpy is one of the dumbest. Because that includes , just as an example: Mexico. The Americas stretching from the North tip of Canada to the South of Fireland.
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[*] posted on 10-23-2020 at 09:06 PM


There seems to be confusion between Continent and Country. There is no rule that a country can't use the continent's name, is there? Australia, for example.
The USA was the first country in the Americas (1776) and the first and only country in the hemisphere to use America in its name.
I think those factors are enough to justify the use of American for people from the USA. There is no other country called America, as well.
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[*] posted on 10-24-2020 at 06:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  

The USA was the first country in the Americas (1776)...


You seem to be very white-man-focused in your understanding of history, and you forget that there were countries in the Americas long before European imperialists landed in the Americas. Indigenous peoples lived in nation states that were countries in every sense of the word. Some of the bigger nation states were the Incas and Aztecs. In fact every tribal entity exterminated by European imperialists was a political state or nation state (country)




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[*] posted on 10-24-2020 at 07:37 AM


Mexico didn't become a country until 1821
Peru didn't become a country until 1821
Ecuador didn't become a country until 1821

If you hate the white man so much, there is always some shoe black to cover up your heritage.
I mean pull a Northam and be done with it.
Then you too can loot flat screens with impunity.

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[*] posted on 10-24-2020 at 08:08 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  

The USA was the first country in the Americas (1776)...


You seem to be very white-man-focused in your understanding of history, and you forget that there were countries in the Americas long before European imperialists landed in the Americas. Indigenous peoples lived in nation states that were countries in every sense of the word. Some of the bigger nation states were the Incas and Aztecs. In fact every tribal entity exterminated by European imperialists was a political state or nation state (country)


Did any of the Indian Nations have 'America' in their names? LOL, of course not (America is an Italian word). Indigenous tribes and an established representative republic don't really fall into the same category but both exist here. The question was regarding the term 'Americans' for the citizens of the United States of America (USA).




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[*] posted on 10-24-2020 at 08:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  

The USA was the first country in the Americas (1776)...


You seem to be very white-man-focused in your understanding of history, and you forget that there were countries in the Americas long before European imperialists landed in the Americas. Indigenous peoples lived in nation states that were countries in every sense of the word. Some of the bigger nation states were the Incas and Aztecs. In fact every tribal entity exterminated by European imperialists was a political state or nation state (country)


Indigenous tribes and an established representative republic don't really fall into the same category but both exist here


Why are the original governments of indigenous peoples not in same category? The usa goverment isnt much to hold up as special. Lots of better examples out there.


Seems to be universal world-wide agreement that last 4 years of GOP/controlled govt has been a mistake (perhaps only putin, erdogan and that weird north korean dude are fans of current usa admin, eh?




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[*] posted on 10-24-2020 at 09:27 PM


"The usa goverment isnt much to hold up as special. Lots of better examples out there."

Got a list? :biggrin::biggrin:

Would be interesting to compare and contrast
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[*] posted on 10-24-2020 at 11:41 PM


Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup  
"The usa goverment isnt much to hold up as special. Lots of better examples out there."

Got a list? :biggrin::biggrin:

Would be interesting to compare and contrast


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-r...

The US doesn't even make the top ten.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 12:24 AM


Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup  
"The usa goverment isnt much to hold up as special. Lots of better examples out there."

Got a list? :biggrin::biggrin:

Would be interesting to compare and contrast


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-r...

The US doesn't even make the top ten.


That’s one good way to look at it.
Another measure: incarceration rate.
And another measure: does immigration separate children from parents and put children in cages, and then never return 500+ children to parents because they lost track of the parents they deported?




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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 12:50 AM


The subject was "Government" ... not quality of life :biggrin::biggrin:

And if quality of life is the subject which nation's Government and/or Governments to you choose as a replacement for our current system of Government that is in place, at this time ... or is it a mix and match ?

An interesting concept ... any examples ? :biggrin::biggrin:
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 09:15 AM
A Rose by any other Name .........


........ Or, a Turd, would smell the same.

Since nothing is going to change and the name will remain the same, those who object to the use of "America" (including the Abos) can babble on over their injustices and call themselves whatever they wish.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 12:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup  
The subject was "Government" ... not quality of life


And you are under the impression that the way a country's government, which administers taxes, makes laws, deals with health care, education, etc, etc., operates is irrelevant to quality of life?
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 01:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup  
The subject was "Government" ... not quality of life


And you are under the impression that the way a country's government, which administers taxes, makes laws, deals with health care, education, etc, operates is irrelevant to quality of life?

Too bad you can't ask the 224,000 Americans who died of COVID whether their quality of life would have been better had they lived in New Zealand, whose Prime Minister had the most intelligent and responsible approach to the pandemic of any country in the world by closing its borders, instituting mandatory 14 day quarantine for any returning citizens, and mandating lockdowns and mask-wearing.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 01:01 PM


In all my travels, I have heard a wide range of terms used to describe citizens from the USA....

Some not so flattering or jingoistic....:lol:




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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
In all my travels, I have heard a wide range of terms used to describe citizens from the USA....

Some not so flattering or jingoistic....:lol:


You ought to hear how Americans and Mexicans refer to the Canadians.:D
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 01:50 PM
Yeah, BUT ............


Canuckians deserve it.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 03:48 PM


To end the discussion with an offer:: Gringos! What about that?

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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 03:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
There seems to be confusion between Continent and Country. There is no rule that a country can't use the continent's name, is there? Australia, for example.
The USA was the first country in the Americas (1776) and the first and only country in the hemisphere to use America in its name.
I think those factors are enough to justify the use of American for people from the USA. There is no other country called America, as well.
Viva the USA!


David K: you forgot that in Australia, there are only living Australiens. In the Americas there are living Candians, Mexicans, Honduriacians(or such) Clilees (or such). Argentiniacians (or such) Columbus and his brother (or such) etc. Most of the US citizens just don`t know that there is more than the stretch from Maine to SoCa. Well, some know Baja!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 10-25-2020 at 04:58 PM


Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup  
The subject was "Government" ... not quality of life


And you are under the impression that the way a country's government, which administers taxes, makes laws, deals with health care, education, etc, etc., operates is irrelevant to quality of life?


And if quality of life is the subject which nation's Government and/or Governments do you choose as a replacement for our current system of Government that is in place, at this time ... or is it a mix and match ? :biggrin::biggrin:
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[*] posted on 10-26-2020 at 10:35 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
In all my travels, I have heard a wide range of terms used to describe citizens from the USA....

Some not so flattering or jingoistic....:lol:


You ought to hear how Americans and Mexicans refer to the Canadians.:D


To our crazy uncle.....(no, not the one in the WH):

I have heard from Mexicans throughout the Mexican mainland as well as Baja, that they often make a distinction between Canadians and USA citizens....and they much prefer the civility and general demeanour of Canadians. They often do not consider Canadians "gringos", but sometimes lump us together.

Even some Nomads have stated that they will describe themselves as Canadians rather than "Americans" when travelling abroad so as to try to dodge the "ugly american" brand.



As Mr. Bill pointed out....we Canadians have earned and deserve such acceptance.....

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