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[*] posted on 6-19-2011 at 11:49 AM


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Just curious, You come across as a philanthropic angel who devotes his life to advising americanos "at your own expense" on mexican land issues. Just wondering where you derived the wealth in order to make this your life cause. In other words do you have a vested interest in all this?

I don't know about his personal agenda- if any, but the "philanthropic angel" moniker is close from my personal experience with him. A lot of Nomads have chimed in on this thread- but I think we are the only ones to have actually hired his team (but not Rasmuna53 directly). He and his legal experts have helped us a great deal, and for not a lot of money (I was taken-back by how reasonable the fees his lawyer charged, with a money-back guarantee no less). They quickly investigated and found what legal papers the squatters had filed in court and then took specific actions to refute them). I don't think they take on many cases or "social causes"- only the ones that share their interests and that make a difference for the people. My case (clearing squatters off the Federal Zone we hold title to) hits the PGJE this week- I'll let you know how it goes. For sure I would rather have Ramuma53 on my side than against me.




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[*] posted on 6-19-2011 at 05:10 PM


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If I didn´t answer your question, I would be just like the other pranks that just come and bark a little with no reason behind, trying to push people to their real non disclosed agenda.
I own land worth about USD$1,000´000,000.00, in Baja and Mexico, the Mulege property hotel Buenaventura with almost 2,000 acres is just one of them, I own several land lots in the Tijuana Ensenada coastal strip, I own land in La Paz and Cabo San Lucas and all of those beach front lots have as final customer the American customer.
I was the founder of the ´Consejo Binacional de Residentes de la Costa Tijuana Ensenada A.C.´or Costal residents Binational counsel LLC. An association that did exactly the same thing I am doing today, giving people legal basis for their defense against Ejido Mazatlan and Hugo Torres Chavert.
I was the founder and first director for the workers party political party in Rosarito and the first elections we participate; we were able to put a councilman in office.
I was the founder and first director for PARM political party in Baja, coming from the New Republic philosophy, founded by Congressman Porfirio Muñoz Ledo; that party nominated me in the 2000 elections as external National Congress candidate and I was able to deliver the most votes for that party at national level; my whole estate level budget was $10,000 pesos, I didn’t win.
I was the founder for the ABC newspaper in Rosarito and 50% partner for that newspaper for 10 years, where I wrote ´Cronica de un Fraude a la Nacion´ a chronicle about the fraud being committed by the Rosarito Developers against the Mexican residents and American buyers; I wrote there ¨La verdadra Historia de Rosarito¨ the true Rosarito´s history, that lasted 123 weeks one whole page at a time; for those works I received 2 awards by two different National Newman associations.
My family has been in politics and Mexico History since the start of last century, One of my uncles was friend and personal doctor for Mexico´s President Lazaro Card##as, another of my uncles was National Congressman and chamber speaker, my father was National treasure man, my aunt Mercedes Martinez de Velilla was a federal Judge and was sent by the Mexico´s President, to clean Tijuana and Rosarito from illegal casinos and closed Hotel Rosarito when she caught them operating as an illegal casino and mafia base (with little long lasting results I see), she then served for many years as Baja Circuit Federal Judge and then ended her legal career, defending poor ejidos for free or a few chickens or a few kilos of something; she also founded most of the women attorneys associations in the whole Mexico, because she was the first woman attorney to graduate from Jalisco Public university and she did it at age 19.
My aunt´s daughter and my cousin also, was Tijuana Councilwoman and one of the most respected popular leaders in Tijuana, Aida Baltazar Martinez, her daughter has been Federal Congresswoman, Tijuana councilwoman two times and many other public office posts.
Yes I have an agenda, to correct the Tijuana to Ensenada fraud against American and Mexican buyers and landowners. I do this because I am one of them and I believe that Baja has developed mostly because of tourism, Industry is new and not good for Baja. I have been doing this for 25 years while tending my businesses; I have worked for the government, but for free.
I have two black belts in Karate, Lima Lama with Grand master and Samoa Prince Tino Tuiolosega and Kung do Lama with Grand Master Rigoberto Lopez, at age 18, I taught Karate at the National Army College in Mexico City while studding Physics and Mathematics, then did the same at the Secret Service and then worked as an external agent for Army intelligence and Mexico´s National Security; I studied Computing systems, Electro Mechanics and Civil Engineering then later became Attorney at Mexican law (I say that I studied the Law to defend myself from my own attorneys).
I believe that Baja have done well while providing a service to American customers and to steal from them and committing fraud against them, is completely wrong and it is economical suicide; I have been saying this publicly for 30 years and sadly my predictions became true.
Why I help Americans? Because I am the only Mexican at my house, my wife is a Professional social worker, Master in Business administration by Phoenix University and an American citizen, California resident; my two sons are also American citizens by birth, the same as my daughter; but the most important factor is because My second son, was diagnosed with leukemia at age 4 and was saved by Children Hospital in San Diego CA, and I don´t think I need any more reasons.
Would this explain my actions?
My technical and legal team only works on cases that are according to my philosophy that is theirs also, they will never cheat or work for the other side and it has worked for them and me for 30 years.

[Edited on 6-20-2011 by ramuma53]
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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 09:30 AM


I took this from a previous post. It seems to be a key to me at least.

BASED ON NATIONAL LAND PRIVATE PROPERTY TITLES ISSUED ON THE PERIOD 1918 TO 1962 AND FROM 1968 TO DATE ARE COMPLETELY SAFE AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE OF THOSE LOSE A LEGAL BATTLE, INCLUDING THE PUNTA BANDA FIASCO WAS WON BY ONE OF THOSE

I'm happy to say the least to hear you own property in BCS.

Based on the above I have a question SPECIFIC to San Bruno.

Can someone just go to Santa Roselia and verify the DATES the Town lots/owners received their title???

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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 10:27 AM


Woooosh... keep us up to date on your progress in court.. this will really be interesting to follow...

Find it interesting that some find it hard to understand how an individual would act with kindness and help his fellow man...

That was what I as a young boy liked about Baja, the kindness of the people ...

My Dad first started taking us down in 1950 ... to clam, surf fish and camp out on the sand and pickle weed... we brought it all in with us ... water, food, white gas ... and lots of spare parts for the vehicle ... plus a lot of tools to work on same..

Thanks for the memory...




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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 02:17 PM


Paladin
As I said, Local Public Registry is just an legal hint, it in itself does not mean you would have no problems, but it is good sign if you find nothing there like an Ejido or Colonial title at the bottom of the legal title chain.
To be sure, you have to check the Federal Public Registries and I mean Agrarian Public Registry together with Agrarian Cadastral Registry; there you will find anything that is a threat to the land ownership, there you will find any ejido or colonial title or even any national land right or National Land title already issued that may affect the property; if you find nothing, you are on the clear, but remember that at the bottom of the title legal chain you must have a national Land title issued on the safe periods.
Those offices are in La Paz BCS.
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[*] posted on 6-22-2011 at 06:56 PM


ramuma53

Thanks for info again. Another question or two.

The questions are SPECIFIC to the village of San Bruno only.
(just north of Mulege)

The village as I understand it was formed and subdivided (lots surveyed) etc BEFORE eijdos came into existence.

Correct???

Towns/villages have no Colonial problems??

Correct??

Is it true then that all of the lots all have the same date of coming into existence??

If so, shouldn't it be easy to say buying a lot in San Bruno is safe and relatively easy to do a complete Title check??

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[*] posted on 6-22-2011 at 10:46 PM


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Woooosh... keep us up to date on your progress in court.. this will really be interesting to follow...

The ministerial police didn't get their written report to the PGJE attorney in time- so it got moved to next week. One step at a time so we don't trip over the finish line :)

To make things even more confusing, PROFEPA came by the house today to research the denuncia I filed with them about this squatter on March 25, 2010. This squatter will likely die there of old age before anyone in authority over the Federal Maritime zone steps up to evict her. Any person who thinks they bought ocean front property in Baja shouldn't be surprised after this story when someone pops up in front of them on the beach one day, refuses to leave and the Mexican gov't lets them do it. So just don't buy oceanfront property in Rosarito Beach thinking you will have a view of the ocean I guess....

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[*] posted on 6-23-2011 at 10:41 AM


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You say it sdo easy, but remember that originally every lot inside of Mexico borders is National Land (Constitution article 27 main text) then to come in to existence as Private property, it has to be sold by the National Land office, sooner or latter, if you don´t have that precedent in the title chain, it means that it is actually National Land; you have to and I mean have, to have a National Land title at the bootom or it is National Land.
Villages and towns don´t mean a thing unless they are taken out of National Land by the formation of a city and that is another procedure, but you will always find the first coming out of National Land; then it is private property.
San Bruno is in an area that if it is not Ejido, it would be National Land, because there are very few National Land titles issued at any time in that area, mine in Buenaventura is one of the few and that is why I checked the existence of the area other titles.
Suposedly there are some titles issued before 1863, but the ones I have found, were located 30 miles inland but were trying to be used in coastal lots, so be carefull; those old titles are old but very well done, they always include topographical data and astronomical location.
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[*] posted on 6-23-2011 at 11:38 AM


After reading all the comments [advise] by rumuma53 about the horrors of buying property in the restricted zone, a expat might want to consider buying their dream home in Tonga. :lol:
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[*] posted on 6-23-2011 at 01:00 PM


Rumuma thanks for taking the time to respond to my post.

The thing about Rumuma he doesn't seem to pull any punches, and tries to tell us how things really are.

Rumuma's message seems to be, yes there are some problems with buying real estate in certain parts of Mexico/Baja but through education, knowledge, and experience. You can over come some of those obstacles if you really want to buy Mexican real estate, and it also helps to have a really good Mexican attorney to look over your paperwork before you buy. ( forgive me Rumuma if that's not your message, and write it off as only my interpretation)

Now contrast Rumuma's tell-it-like-it-is message to a message from someone like Jenny, and Baja( most likely the same person?) that only want to dwell on the negative aspects of owning real estate in Mexico/Baja in a vain attempt to keep Americans from buying property in Mexico.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm going to heed Rumuma's advice before I would listen to the Jennys,Bajas, and their ilk who only want to dwell in hate, fear, and ignorance about Mexico, and Mexican real estate.
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[*] posted on 6-23-2011 at 01:12 PM


Why is it so complicated to buy property in Baja? :lol:
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[*] posted on 6-23-2011 at 01:59 PM


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The thing about Rumuma he doesn't seem to pull any punches, and tries to tell us how things really are.



I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm going to heed Rumuma's advice before I would listen to the Jennys,Bajas, and their ilk who only want to dwell in hate, fear, and ignorance about Mexico, and Mexican real estate.
Everything Rumuma posts are about the pitfalls of Mexican land ownership, unless you U2U him for advise and repre$entation.

Joe, why don't you share your land purchase experiences in baja with us. You seem to have a lot of experience in in day to day business negotiations in zona norte
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[*] posted on 6-23-2011 at 03:16 PM


Might rent in Baja. One of those short term lease deals.:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 6-27-2011 at 09:20 AM


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You are right and I do mind that you interpret what I say, but in a good way, because it helps a lot, to see that some of you, are getting the message right and clear.

Mexico has its difficulties and it is not new; the worst thing we can do, is hide the problems; what we need, is to correct them, so our customers don’t fall in to the traps, that some people have there, to get your money.

In Baja we want your money, we need it desperately, but we need to give the customer what he expect from his money and more; that is the only way to make a lasting business; we are neighbors, neither of us is going to go away, so we need to be fair to each other and in the process make a business and this is an economical need, not a moral need only.

This has nothing to do with being a Mexican or American, it has to do with being honest or not, thinking of doing a long lasting business or just a short lived fraud. Honesty is a must in commerce, not only a moral thing to do.

Why it has nothing to do with nationality? Because a lot of frauds are being done against Americans by Americans, who learned the Mexican bad ways; most of Ejido Mazatlan members are AMERICAN CITYZENS, California Residents, they have their bank accounts in San Diego California.

Gabriel Esquivel, one of the Ejido´s Mazatlan founder and main crook, father to Enrique Esquivel, and Oscar Salazar, was a USA citizen, who fought for the USA in Korea, then he found it easy to just steal from Mexico by selling Ejido land that he got for free; now his sons also American Citizens with bank accounts in a Chula Vista Wells Fargo Bank, mastered his ways and just keep doing it.

The same story is repeated all over Baja, Ejidos are created by Americans who master in corruption and know how to steal money from Americans. I don’t say that it is only Americans, of course there are a lot of Mexicans involved, but the teachers were Mexican Americans.

The Punta Banda fraud case who created so much mistrust between Mexicans and Americans, was elaborated between an American developer, together with a Mexican Ejido chief; I told the legal consequences to the American Consulate people, before it happened, but they believing more in corruption, choose to believe the Baja Governor´s cousin and Punta Banda developer, a Baja Governor, born in San Diego California by the way, you know the rest.
We are just too intermixed, to believe that Mexico is a corrupt place, because the people executing the corruption acts, are Mexicans and Americans together; the people acting as real estate agents in Baja, are mostly Americans and they are the ones who knowing that a place has problems, sell to Americans hiding the facts.
That means that we have to find a solution together and I believe that the only way to do it, is to act in a honest way with no exceptions; to start, we have to expose the frauds so no more buyers get caught by the bad guys, Mexicans or Americans or both together; this will expose the bandits and create trust; they are hurting both countries and people, not only Americans.
To buy in Baja is difficult today, is must not be that way, but it is, yes, but it is no impossible if you know what you are doing; you can even make a good business; remember that where things are difficult, the ignorant go away, leaving the business to the smart and informed people.
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[*] posted on 6-27-2011 at 09:35 AM


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Unless you find someone who I represent in court, charging him, you are not expressing yourself in a true way.

About the pitfalls of Mexican land ownership, I advise you on how to protect yourself from the pitfalls created by people who do not want to expose the fact, that the Rosarito´s area, has property titles problems, that they should correct, instead of passing them over to the American buyer.

I also advise you on how to find the legal ownership, not only the pitfalls, I advise you, on how not to fall in to the pit, because that is the objective, not to avoid buying in Baja, but to avoid falling in to a pit created to catch you.

Mexican land ownership is different from other countries land ownership, because it has leftovers from a populist era that almost bankrupted Mexico.
Retiring Americans are coming to Baja and nothing will stop them, Mexicans are going to America to work also, we are just exchanging populations; both have problems with the facts, but both countries will correct them in time, I am only starting the process.
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[*] posted on 6-27-2011 at 09:37 AM


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If you do not want to go in to the problems of land ownership, that is the safe way to do untill it becomes easy and safe.
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[*] posted on 6-27-2011 at 10:05 AM


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Unless you find someone who I represent in court, charging him, you are not expressing yourself in a true way.

About the pitfalls of Mexican land ownership, I advise you on how to protect yourself from the pitfalls created by people who do not want to expose the fact, that the Rosarito´s area, has property titles problems, that they should correct, instead of passing them over to the American buyer.

I also advise you on how to find the legal ownership, not only the pitfalls, I advise you, on how not to fall in to the pit, because that is the objective, not to avoid buying in Baja, but to avoid falling in to a pit created to catch you.

Mexican land ownership is different from other countries land ownership, because it has leftovers from a populist era that almost bankrupted Mexico.
Retiring Americans are coming to Baja and nothing will stop them, Mexicans are going to America to work also, we are just exchanging populations; both have problems with the facts, but both countries will correct them in time, I am only starting the process.
You silver-tongued devil:lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 6-27-2011 at 10:16 AM


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Why is it so complicated to buy property in Baja? :lol:


I found absolutely nothing complicated at all.
Different, yes. Some people just don't have the capability to think outside the box. And don't understand the concept ... homework.
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[*] posted on 6-27-2011 at 11:58 AM


Found this through online searches of Mexico's history ... don't know how accurate this translation is.. but, has some interesting history ... on the area

If any inaccurate statements are found, please note... with post..

Encyclopedia of the Municipalities of Mexico
STATE OF BAJA CALIFORNIA

PLAYAS DE ROSARITO

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[*] posted on 6-27-2011 at 12:25 PM


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I found absolutely nothing complicated at all.
Different, yes. Some people just don't have the capability to think outside the box. And don't understand the concept ... homework.


Please explain to us the steps you took to purchase real estate safely in Baja. A simple list will suffice, you know, 1...2...3...etc.

Thanks in advance, we look forward to hearing from someone who understands the concept and does the homeworkd.
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