Done and done again recently. Delegado Novelo has a lot of racers staying at his hotel and I just saw him yesterday. Before I could ask him he brought
up Gary and if he had been found. He said he would notify the guys to be on the lookout.
Tow companies and Federal de Caminos will be tomorrow and the tow company where I have a relative will be contacted by email tonight.
I sent the So. Cal. Patton Crew a U2U early yesterday offering my help here in Ensenada and they still have not opened it up. I told them if they were
coming down for the race to get the word out I would be there for them. No contact from them in several weeks. I told them I would do everything I
could here in Ensenada and meet with them for direction however they apparently have opted out of me helping them.
I just got back from a working trip in Canada and seeing relatives so I am open right now with not much to do. I will do everything here in Ensenada
and of course not charge them-OF COURSE-But if they want something down south I would at the very least need to meet my expenses. What I am doing is
NOT for them - It's for Gary.
You aren't doing anything wrong, and stop being so paranoid!! I have asked why they don't want to travel to Mexico to look for Gary personally and
have had no response. Finances are the only thing I can think of that is standing in their way, of course from So. Cal. it wouldn't be prohibitive to
come down for a few days. You did your best, don't worry about it!!
Originally posted by lizard lips
Done and done again recently. Delegado Novelo has a lot of racers staying at his hotel and I just saw him yesterday. Before I could ask him he brought
up Gary and if he had been found. He said he would notify the guys to be on the lookout.
Tow companies and Federal de Caminos will be tomorrow and the tow company where I have a relative will be contacted by email tonight.
...
I just got back from a working trip in Canada and seeing relatives so I am open right now with not much to do. I will do everything here in Ensenada
and of course not charge them-OF COURSE-But if they want something down south I would at the very least need to meet my expenses. What I am doing is
NOT for them - It's for Gary.
No surprise here really, but over and over again.... you ROCK!
Thank you.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
Peenie Wallie said Gary was headed across the Punta Prieta desert to Bahia Los Angeles. I would have thought someone might have driven a vehicle
along that route to look for him because there is only one main highway down south from San Quintin, which is highway 1 and then cut over to highway
12. Peenie heard this from someone, I don't even know who he is but he seemed to have heard the route Gary was going to take. I think starting out
on that highway and looking for clues on the side of the road since there is only one main road, would have been an excellent start.
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Peenie Wallie said Gary was headed across the Punta Prieta desert to Bahia Los Angeles. I would have thought someone might have driven a vehicle
along that route to look for him because there is only one main highway down south from San Quintin, which is highway 1 and then cut over to highway
12. Peenie heard this from someone, I don't even know who he is but he seemed to have heard the route Gary was going to take. I think starting out
on that highway and looking for clues on the side of the road since there is only one main road, would have been an excellent start.
Anyone who has done anything (put up posters, talked to people, checked roads and campsites) please u2u me with that info so we can keep a log and a
map of who, what, where and when.
Just want an accounting for right now so we know what has been done.
At first I thought Peenie might be a Baja person but it showed on the website that he had a picture of Jennifer (I assume the Jennifer Patton
mentioned in this thread) with a new Jeep in Colorado. Peenie might be her significant other. It states that Peenie and Jennifer bought the new
Jeep October 8th, 2013.
I am K - Kim, and Elliott is my son, and we are Gary's immediate family -- SoCalPattons represent Gary's sister, brothers, nephews, cousins. May I
just emplore your site folks, that all of Gary's family are trying desperately to reach Gary, to know he is okay, and doing so without a guide book.
Learning we have no rights by law as to his whereabouts by the US government, no help from our cell phone provider (a dead end, please leave it, it's
been exhausted), then limited in any hopes of reaching him otherwise, has been devastating for us WE've reached out to all our family, friends, and
folks that know Gary referring them to your bajanomad site..so PLEASE consider your comments about our family when posting because we're trying not to
drive folks away, but encourage input. There are many more viewers than contributors, and can we request some tolerance and empathy toward the
family, since maybe, we're not following the textbook model of how a "missing person's family" is supposed to react, perform, and respond in this
situation, nor on your forum here, but we're doing what we can with what we have and lack. Focusing on finding Gary is what we're hoping, praying
for, with all your help and advice here.
We're doing our best, managing at our worst --
We're working on newspaper ads during the Baja 1000, and we've got a posting on Score 1000 now. We're also working to enlist desert angels, border
angels, and green angels, -- nothing hurts to try. More of you that pass on the flyer, the urgency we're faced with, ANYTHING, word of mouth is our
best, maybe our only weapon Please avoid judgements bout us and worst case scenarios, just help find Gary.
P.S.- If you know anyone in the La Chorera beach area, please forward them the flyer because that area, and again near Bahia de Los Angeles are
perhaps the only places Gary may have been seen last ---and perhaps stranded; both these areas are legitimate places Gary could've gone.
Bless all of you for your kindest regards in our mission to find Gary,
Kimberly & Elliott Patton
The family posts thru me cause I offered to post here. I an no expert, but if my posting makes life easier...... I am more than willing to help
out! All I keep thinking is that if this were my loved one, I would be asking everyone to help out in any way they could.
OK, we have been down the pacific side and distributing flyers. Have yet to see any others posted. I think that this is very strange? We have talked
to checkpoint staff and taco stands, general stores and every Pemex we see... One of my other chase crews a day behind us who noticed that even in
areas that I personally posted flyers were removed the day after being posted. HUGE RED FLAG. The vibe I am getting is that someone may be tampering
with our efforts? Does this sound feasible to anyone with more understanding then myself?
Questions:
1. Has anyone checked with Cocos corner? I am trying to think of a destination that he may have heard about and is enjoying himself so much that he
has yet to leave. Cocos came to mind. Even Mikes Sky Ranch?
2. I don't want to beat this into the ground anymore... But this alleged source in Rosarito that spotted him and talked to him. Was there any type of
information supplied by her that would only be known if she had really met MR. Patton? From everything described on BN "being very talkative" was very
well established personality trait of his. If (and I am not accusing) someone were to (a). trying to redirect the search area. (B). have another
agenda, this would be an easy method to convince it was a real encounter... It was a very clear trait of his. SO bottom line - was there anything that
he mentioned that has not been posted that would indicate she really had a conversation with him... 45 minutes I am sure that he would have mentioned
something personal that would not have been mentioned in the online posts...I am asking because I will have time to kill on my return and am willing
to canvas areas more northern (Ensenada, local playas, Puerto Nuevo, Rosarito and even TJ).
Over the next couple days I will be heading north into Puertecitos and towards San Felipe. I will cover these areas as well. We have been locating
wrecking yards and posting flyers at these locations. I will also be rolling through any remote camping areas that we encounter. Pete's camp ECT.
If anyone has detailed information of what has been searched I would appreciate a heads up so I can save time. I have not been able to stop at all if
the blind corners on the Mex 1 like I wish I could. We are in a group and my teammates are focused on the race and getting tired of my sleuthing. I am
doing what I can though. I honestly believe (as has been mentioned by many others) that this may be one of the most important avenues so thoroughly
assess. If any family has time to go down for a few days roll slow and check ALL THE TURNS!!
3. Not to pry as this information is personal but as a medical professional I am curious. Is he concerned with taking his meds? (If he ran out would
he seek more?) Does anyone know what type of supply he might have taken with him? I ask this because I was considering trying to cover the pharmacias
and asking if anyone has purchased these types of meds and showing them pictures. Additionally checking with some clinics if this medication is not
available without a doctors note. Some meds are fairly controlled and cardiac meds tend to be one of them (Yes even in Baja...I know vicodin is OTC
but some heart meds are very specific. The further south you go the more legit the pharmacies seem to be). Additionally I would contact his physician
and see if there has been any inquiry into his medical history recently. Since cardiac meds are sold under different names he may have contacted the
physician to figure out what brand he needs...
I did take the painstaking hours to read everything that has been done, so as not to offer ideas that have been suggested.
I actually think that I may personally know this family so I am trying to do everything possible.
We have a small fixed wing aircraft heading to Lapaz Sunday. I am a USAR task force member and have a friend who is USCG. We will be spotters and try
to follow the coast as low and slow as we can. The pilot will not alter course significantly but it is still worth a try...
Other then that has anyone checked Erindera beach areas>? I love this area and if I was going to relax and camp this would be my choice?
SORRY for the novel but I figured I would puke all over you guys and gauge the responses.
BajaBlanca, your dedication to this has been thorough and amazing. You are a solid person!! Kudos to you for sticking by this. You are Baja Family. I
have been a lurker here for quite a while but have not had a lot to contribute, so this is my 1st post. My internet will be spotty over the next few
days, but I will check for replies.
Cheers to all,
TT out
"There is nothing more uncommon than common sense." - Frank Lloyd Wright
Vicodin is not "over the counter". It is a controlled substance unless you are paying a pharmacy a 'mordida" and getting them illegally. He would be
concerned about taking his meds if he was well enough to get around, but no one has seen or heard from him for a long time. If he is taking cardiac
meds, he probably has been established on them for a while, so I don't think he would have contacted his physician as to what he needs. As far as the
Rosarito sighting, forget it. The woman was contacted and she never responded. I wouldn't waste my time there.
Quote:
Originally posted by TimeTraveler
OK, we have been down the pacific side and distributing flyers. Have yet to see any others posted. I think that this is very strange? We have talked
to checkpoint staff and taco stands, general stores and every Pemex we see... One of my other chase crews a day behind us who noticed that even in
areas that I personally posted flyers were removed the day after being posted. HUGE RED FLAG. The vibe I am getting is that someone may be tampering
with our efforts? Does this sound feasible to anyone with more understanding then myself?
Questions:
1. Has anyone checked with Cocos corner? I am trying to think of a destination that he may have heard about and is enjoying himself so much that he
has yet to leave. Cocos came to mind. Even Mikes Sky Ranch?
2. I don't want to beat this into the ground anymore... But this alleged source in Rosarito that spotted him and talked to him. Was there any type of
information supplied by her that would only be known if she had really met MR. Patton? From everything described on BN "being very talkative" was very
well established personality trait of his. If (and I am not accusing) someone were to (a). trying to redirect the search area. (B). have another
agenda, this would be an easy method to convince it was a real encounter... It was a very clear trait of his. SO bottom line - was there anything that
he mentioned that has not been posted that would indicate she really had a conversation with him... 45 minutes I am sure that he would have mentioned
something personal that would not have been mentioned in the online posts...I am asking because I will have time to kill on my return and am willing
to canvas areas more northern (Ensenada, local playas, Puerto Nuevo, Rosarito and even TJ).
Over the next couple days I will be heading north into Puertecitos and towards San Felipe. I will cover these areas as well. We have been locating
wrecking yards and posting flyers at these locations. I will also be rolling through any remote camping areas that we encounter. Pete's camp ECT.
If anyone has detailed information of what has been searched I would appreciate a heads up so I can save time. I have not been able to stop at all if
the blind corners on the Mex 1 like I wish I could. We are in a group and my teammates are focused on the race and getting tired of my sleuthing. I am
doing what I can though. I honestly believe (as has been mentioned by many others) that this may be one of the most important avenues so thoroughly
assess. If any family has time to go down for a few days roll slow and check ALL THE TURNS!!
3. Not to pry as this information is personal but as a medical professional I am curious. Is he concerned with taking his meds? (If he ran out would
he seek more?) Does anyone know what type of supply he might have taken with him? I ask this because I was considering trying to cover the pharmacias
and asking if anyone has purchased these types of meds and showing them pictures. Additionally checking with some clinics if this medication is not
available without a doctors note. Some meds are fairly controlled and cardiac meds tend to be one of them (Yes even in Baja...I know vicodin is OTC
but some heart meds are very specific. The further south you go the more legit the pharmacies seem to be). Additionally I would contact his physician
and see if there has been any inquiry into his medical history recently. Since cardiac meds are sold under different names he may have contacted the
physician to figure out what brand he needs...
I did take the painstaking hours to read everything that has been done, so as not to offer ideas that have been suggested.
I actually think that I may personally know this family so I am trying to do everything possible.
We have a small fixed wing aircraft heading to Lapaz Sunday. I am a USAR task force member and have a friend who is USCG. We will be spotters and try
to follow the coast as low and slow as we can. The pilot will not alter course significantly but it is still worth a try...
Other then that has anyone checked Erindera beach areas>? I love this area and if I was going to relax and camp this would be my choice?
SORRY for the novel but I figured I would puke all over you guys and gauge the responses.
BajaBlanca, your dedication to this has been thorough and amazing. You are a solid person!! Kudos to you for sticking by this. You are Baja Family. I
have been a lurker here for quite a while but have not had a lot to contribute, so this is my 1st post. My internet will be spotty over the next few
days, but I will check for replies.
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
As far as the Rosarito sighting, forget it. The woman was contacted and she never responded.
Never responded to whom? As noted in this thread, she's been in communication with Gary's family:
Quote:
Originally posted by SoCalPattonCrew
Our sister-in-law Kim, has phoned Gretchen from the tallartist post on the sighting of Gary. We are so appreciative of her input and have passed this
latest news to our family members.
Quote:
Originally posted by BajaBlanca (for Kim)
I spoke to tallartist in Rosarito near Obrera...
I know you care, and want to help. Thank you. Be careful on what's communicated/stated/etc. - as it can affect credibility. Thank you again so very
much for your care and concern for Gary's situation.
[Edited on 10-26-2013 by BajaNomad]
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
I was not implying Vicodin was legitimately available OTC... But it is one of the meds that the pharmacies will easily sell without question. I was
trying to alleviate the reply that "prescriptions are not needed in Baja" I know that you are totally correct in your statement though. As for
contacting the physician since the meds are sold under different brand/generic names he may possibly try to confirm an equivalent medication to
purchase. I agree, long shot, not likely but if he is "vacationing" it may be possible. Probably a waste of time but it was just a thought.
Back to the topic:
I "think" read in one post from the Patton group that they believe that it was a legit sighting based on a conversation she had with the family. (if I
remember that statement correctly??)
I personally agree with your feeling that this was a... "mistake" by someone attempting good Samaritan and thank you for saving me this time and
expense.
I will try to make a post on Race-desert.com and maybe desertrangers.com tomorrow.
HAS THIS BEEN DONE?
Is there any BN members with some clout on Race-desert that could do this? I am more of an observer there and someone respected would get a more
benevolent response. If not I will do it... This will notify all of the race crews that are prerunning and racing. I will also try to get Mikes sky
rancho to post the flyer on their FB as well.
I have very high hopes that with all of the astute racers and the remote areas that will be canvassed we can produce some viable information. The
racing community is close knit and some will be willing to assist. Maybe with a little luck we can get some of the big boys to look around from their
helicopters while traveling on their already planned routes. Some of these camera guys that film from the air have mil background and astute eyes.
This whole area will be covered and in many cases, the salvage yards are scoured for race car/chase truck parts. This could be very beneficial.
I am praying for rescue VS recovery but in either situation closure. From the sound of it, he had a fairly significant amount of $$ with him and MAY
have planned to live the Baja Life for a while.
I had a close friend who just wanted to drop off the grid (due to stress and personal factors) He took an extended vacation in Mexico to clear his
head. Popped back up on his own timeline safe and sound. (with a much better outlook on life). This would be a best case scenario.
Thank you for the follow up.
"There is nothing more uncommon than common sense." - Frank Lloyd Wright
time traveler....wow, thank you so much for your interest and input and boots on the ground approach...and the air search is a great idea. I think the
best chance for finding Gary will be with the race people and resources. I hope someone DOES post this on their forum as there will be thousands of
extra eyes in baja for the race and making Gary's search part of it is a great idea.
"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen.
The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back
if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt
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