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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 08:53 AM


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800,000 volts is a lot, but it is far from fatal, unless I suppose you had a bad ticker.
What would do serious damage to someone is amperage and the S.Gs don't have that.
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Here's a curious question. Larry brought up the question of effectiveness. How can I test the effectiveness? I doubt I'll get even a paid volunteer though there's no harm in asking?

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Lee do you have a cat???:lol::lol::bounce:: before i catch hell from the cat lovers just a joke


Oh Nomads can be so cruel. Guess I'm guilty of having a dark side because I'm cracking up.

Oh I have a cat OK but not the heart to do this without it's permission. (I'm guessing in advance it's not OK with my cat.)

Maybe a neighbor's dog when it starts barking at 6 a.m. on a Sunday? Not exactly the same as a perp though.

I need a serious response other than using myself as the subject. How much would be reasonable to pay someone for 5 seconds of their time? Maybe make that an hour of their time including recovery.

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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 09:31 AM
Stun Gun Test


Lee....got this off of the web, it's a hoot!!!!

Pocket Taser Stun Gun, a great gift for the wife.

Last weekend I saw something at Larry's Pistol & Pawn Shop that sparked my interest. The occasion was our 22nd anniversary and I was looking for a little something extra for my wife Toni. What I came across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized taser. The effects of the taser were supposed to be short lived, with no long-term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her adequate time to retreat to safety... WAY TOO COOL!

Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home. I loaded two triple-a batteries in the darn thing and pushed the button. Nothing! I was disappointed. I learned, however, that if I pushed the button AND pressed it against flesh or a metal surface at the same time, I'd get the blue arch of electricity darting back and forth between the prongs.

Awesome! Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to Toni what that burn spot is on the face of her microwave. Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that it couldn't be all that bad with only two triple-a batteries, right?!

There I sat in my recliner, my cat Gracie looking on intently (trusting little soul) while I was reading the directions and thinking that I really needed to try this thing out on a flesh and blood moving target. I must admit I thought about zapping Gracie (for a fraction of a second) and thought better of it. She is such a sweet cat. But, if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself against a mugger, I did want some assurance that it would work as advertised. Am I wrong?

So, there I sat in a pair of shorts and a tank top with my reading glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose, directions in one hand, and taser in another. The directions said that a one-second burst would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily control; a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of water. Any burst longer than three seconds would be wasting the batteries.

All the while I'm looking at this little device measuring about 5" long, less than 3/4 inch in circumference; pretty cute really (and loaded with two itsy, bitsy triple-a batteries) thinking to myself, "no possible way!"

What happened next is almost beyond description, but I'll do my best...

I'm sitting there alone, Gracie looking on with her head c-cked to one side as to say, "don't do it master," reasoning that a one-second burst from such a tiny little ole thing couldn't hurt all that bad.. I decided to give myself a one-second burst just for the heck of it. I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button, and HOLY MOTHER, WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION *&#(*)&!!#%)jld*(&#*#***!!!

I'm pretty sure Jessie Ventura ran in through the side door, picked me up in the recliner, then body slammed us both on the carpet, over and over and over again. I vaguely recall waking up on my side in the fetal position, with tears in my eyes, body soaking wet, both nipples on fire, testicles nowhere to be found, with my left arm tucked under my body in the oddest position, and tingling in my legs. The cat was standing over me making meowing sounds I had never heard before, licking my face, undoubtedly thinking to herself, "do it again, do it again!"

Note: If you ever feel compelled to "mug" yourself with a taser, one note of caution: there is no such thing as a one-second burst when you zap yourself. You will not let go of that thing until it is dislodged from your hand by a violent thrashing about on the floor. A three second burst would be considered conservative.

SON-OF-A-b-tch...that hurt like hell!!! A minute or so later (I can't be sure, as time was a relative thing at that point), collected my wits (what little I had left), sat up and surveyed the landscape. My bent reading glasses were on the mantel of the fireplace. How did they up get there???

My triceps, right thigh, and both nipples were still twitching. My face felt like it had been shot up with Novacaine, and my bottom lip weighed 88 pounds. I'm still looking for my testicles. I'm offering a significant reward for their safe return.

Having read the above, if you do try it on yourself, PLEASE write a post on this thread!!!!!
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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 09:45 AM


Are you sure that was'nt you Bajaguy?



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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 09:58 AM


:o:o:o:o:o:o POOR B***ard, and stupid too, but also VERY FUNNY :lol::lol: ,just hope all returned what was missing!:biggrin:
So it works - no need to repeat it LEE, unless you are up for some Selfpunishment!!
Thanks bguy for the Story!!!!!
And I'm still searching for where to get it in EU.




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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 10:39 AM


bajaguy - Thank you so much for posting that piece. I laughed myself silly.



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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 10:52 AM


Bajaguy,

That's a testimonial that belongs on the manufacturer's website. I'm sold!:bounce:
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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 11:02 AM


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Lee....got this off of the web, it's a hoot!!!!

Pocket Taser Stun Gun, a great gift for the wife.
My triceps, right thigh, and both nipples were still twitching. My face felt like it had been shot up with Novacaine, and my bottom lip weighed 88 pounds. I'm still looking for my testicles. I'm offering a significant reward for their safe return.

Having read the above, if you do try it on yourself, PLEASE write a post on this thread!!!!!


OH GOD! This has to be the best post I've ever read. My stomach hurts from laughing and I haven't laughed this much in a long long time.

Thanks for writing this. You must know that your experienced has saved alot of people here alot of pain. You are a truly great person for putting it out there.

So, OK. I know for sure that your product is the one I want!

(I'm still laughing!)

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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 11:13 AM


Bajaguy
ROFLMAO still




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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 01:55 PM
Thanks


I'm glad that I was able to bring a little humor into this site....and NO, it wasn't me....I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid!!!
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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 02:02 PM


fiction! Funny!:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 09:31 PM
Hello?????


Lee.....Lee????.....are you still there???.......you didn't try the test, did you???l
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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 09:47 PM


Hmmm, no offense, but I think some people might be confusing pepper spray with MACE. MACE is highly atomized and can easily blow back to the user, or be ineffective on insensitive subjects like drunk or drugged people. The law enforcement strength pepper spray is thicker (higher viscosity) and works very well on almost anyone, including animals, keeping in mind that it only blinds them (temporarily) and doesn't curb their appetite for violence. Spray and then get out of the way.

I always carry a machete, because I have similar experience cutting trails through jungles and I am comfortable with one, but the Policia Federal de Caminos (federal highway police) have little tolerance for a machete tucked politely under the driver's floor mat. They have reacted badly every time they see it and ordered me to put it in the back of the truck. The military guys at the checkpoints don't care.

Expandable batons make you feel good, but holding one I was once defeated by a huge crazy man with a very long and pointy umbrella just a tad longer than my rather light expandable baton. They are OK against unarmed people, but your chances of having trouble with an unarmed person are rare in my experience. In fact, your chance of having trouble with anyone in Baja is rare in my experience.

I know that everyone wants to feel completely safe, but I don't think there is a way to ensure that, short of locking yourself in a gated community and rarely leaving--which seems to be an option for a lot of people in California. Tijuana is an unnecessary risk for my taste, so I never stop there. Taking the usual route across the border, there is no reason to be stopped in traffic more than momentarily. Ensenada, by contrast, has always seemed pretty safe and I always stop there for a late breakfast. Far too many cruise ships stop there for them to let things get out of hand (I think). There are always exceptions, but then, I live in one of the top ten "most dangerous cities in America" (Stockton), so I am a bit inured by crazy street people passing by.

Baja south of Ensenada is a fairly small community--much like a medium-sized city with a core of old family activists, so any criminal activity is sensationalized. I have no stats to back me up, but I think by California standards, the chances of being victimized in Baja south of Tijuana is far, far lower than most places in the U.S. Now, there may be pockets of trouble for relatively short periods, but I am taking the whole lower peninsula as a whole. Those of us who can live in, or spend a part of our year in Baja, are indeed lucky, in my humble opinion.




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[*] posted on 11-22-2006 at 09:58 PM


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Lee.....Lee????.....are you still there???.......you didn't try the test, did you???l


Yeah yeah. I fell asleep watching taser videos.

This one woke me up. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/58790/taser_drunk_guy/

Think I lost count after the 5th shot? Think I could take 1/2 volt.

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[*] posted on 11-24-2006 at 01:59 PM


Weapons! The guy with the most fire power is gonna rule. Pepper spray, ugly looks, waving machetes?:o If you don't have a gun, you're at the mercy of anyone that's pointing theirs at you.:(
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[*] posted on 11-24-2006 at 04:09 PM


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Weapons! The guy with the most fire power is gonna rule. Pepper spray, ugly looks, waving machetes?:o If you don't have a gun, you're at the mercy of anyone that's pointing theirs at you.:(


Well, that's partly right. A gun does trump no gun but only in the hands of someone skilled with a gun, really. In the hands of someone with no experience -- a kid, a drunken overweight lardburro, bets are off. It also helps to know what to do if a gun is pointed at you. But that's another thread.

And holding a machete with two hands -- like a samauri sword -- is best. Blade out in front.

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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 03:12 PM


If anyone is interested in buying a Machete I bought one today at Lowes for $10.98 They also have them at Home Depot in the garden section.
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 08:04 PM


I bought one of those hardwood walking sticks this weekend. It's about 1.5 inches thick and about 5.5 feet long.

Figure I can keep it about in camp and even walk around a city with it.........with a little fake limp, of course.:lol:




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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 08:16 PM


hook can ya holler it out slip a gun barrell inside build a flip up trigger screw the handle off to load it and a sweet pair a sights on it?? you be in do bidness:o:o:o:o



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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 10:14 PM


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hook can ya holler it out slip a gun barrell inside build a flip up trigger screw the handle off to load it and a sweet pair a sights on it?? you be in do bidness:o:o:o:o


Nope, I'll have to do my Little John imitation.

Used to carry a derringer that was a 4/10 shotgun barrel and a .22. But stopped carrying it when the checkpoints started.

Not that it wouldn't be very hard to hide, mind you...........




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[*] posted on 12-13-2006 at 10:54 AM


I used to be ok with a machete when working in the field as a surveyor. Now I'm an office guy and not so good. After the children arrived my mindset over whose life is more important changed a bit (Yes my children are more important to me).

Still I don't think I will carry a machete for defense. Nor do I have a gun. The best advice I've received is to keep a baseball bat in the car- along with ball and glove of course. I know how to work one and would be far more likely to use it when needed vs. hesitating with a more instantly lethal weapon.

Mostly I try to avoid situations where a confrontation is likely.
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