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Slowmad
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Drove one of those suckers last month (07 Tundra 4X4).
Quick impressions: major cab luxury, so-so acceleration with the smaller 8-cylinder, and what felt like typical superlative Toyota build quality.
Was not impressed with the payload for use with a camper.
Looking forward to real-world (Baja low-range crawling under load) reviews.
The only requirement for love or chorizo is confidence.
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David K
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Oh well, makes no diff. to me, Hook... I am only letting those who ask know that my experience with Toyota (and other Japaneses makes) has been
excellent.
My experience with American brands has been very disappointing and expensive!
Neal Johns and other Baja Amigos sang the praises of Toyota Tacomas before I got my first one ('01), and I was amazed at how solid and trouble free a
truck could be under the conditions I put it through!
I have had (since before 16) a VW street legal buggy, Jeep Cherokee Chief, Subaru 4WD wagons (three in a row), Mitsubishi Mighty Max truck, Mazda MPV
van, Plymouth Grand Voyager van, and my two 4WD Tacomas.
San Borja road 2002:
Mision Santa Maria 2003:
The Widowmaker 2003:
San Quintin/ Cielito Lindo 2005:
Road to Mike's Sky Rancho 2005:
[Edited on 3-29-2007 by David K]
[Edited on 3-29-2007 by David K]
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Hook
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Location: Sonora
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Thanks for your usual overkill, irrelevant answer, David. Quite a reply for a subject that "makes no difference to you."
Why dont you just form the fan club that you so deperately need, instead of subjecting us to all this Baja Budda preening, day after day? Even the
Lord only requires formal worship once a week.
Gawd, it gets old.
Cant you just make up a nice coffee-table book of all your Baja travels and look through it 2-3 times a day? Maybe show it to the neighbors over the
back fence, for the needed stroking.
I guess I reached my limit .......again. Made it a couple months this time.
Bring it on, fan club. I'll treat it as penance for my sacrilege........
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David K
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Location: San Diego County
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Thanks for your usual overkill, irrelevant answer, David. Quite a reply for a subject that "makes no difference to you."
Why dont you just form the fan club that you so deperately need, instead of subjecting us to all this Baja Budda preening, day after day? Even the
Lord only requires formal worship once a week.
Gawd, it gets old.
Cant you just make up a nice coffee-table book of all your Baja travels and look through it 2-3 times a day? Maybe show it to the neighbors over the
back fence, for the needed stroking.
I guess I reached my limit .......again. Made it a couple months this time.
Bring it on, fan club. I'll treat it as penance for my sacrilege........ |
My dear amigo Hook, please know that this is what I do (post stuff on Nomad about Baja) and nobody is forcing you to look at what I post. Yes, they
are some of the same photos and same comments I have posted before.... However, there are NEW people here every day and I continue to get emails
praising my sharing my Baja-ism on the Internet.
I am very sorry what I am doing is bumming you out. I want to help people discover adventures in Baja, I enjoy writing about Baja... You did follow me
on one of the group outings, even... I was happy to meet you. I am not intentionally posting to irritate you or the others who would like me to go
away because they think I am some kind of threat to 'their Baja'.
Now, when I see something that doesn't interest me or I don't like... I move on to something that does interest me. But, I would not put down the
person who posted those things because what he does will not take away from my ability to post stuff here... There is no LIMIT to the amount of Baja
sharing a Nomad can do.
How about allowing me to enjoy Baja Nomad and I wish you the same and ignore my 'bad' habit of showing old photos or talking about Baja stuff
repeatedly. I mean, I could do worse... Right?
Peace, Love and Fish Tacos to you Mr. Hook!
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Gadget
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Posts: 851
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Location: Point Loma CA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Understand the passion here... I am in favor of better performance and improved milage! I bought a Toyota, afterall! It has to do with freedom too.
Saddam Hussein was the Hitler of our times, and like WWII we did what was necessary even though neither Germany or Iraq attacked us (directly).
That little boy was missing legs more likely from a suicide bomber or land mine planted by the supporters of Saddam's side, not the liberators
(U.S.)...
It is a crime that the media poisons us with their slant... Just ask the troops who have been there or repeatedly volunteer to go back about our
mission there.
If Bill Clinton (or another Dem) was the one decided to enforce the U.N. sanctions, the media would love this war... When Clinton invaded Yugoslavia
that didn't seem to bother anyone! |
That my friend was well said, didn't have any thing to do with the tread, but it was hijacked before you. Many won't get it though, I fear.
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
http://www.LocosMocos.com
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k1w1
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cool
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
. I want to help people discover adventures in Baja, I enjoy writing about Baja... |
please keep doin' whatcho do. Especially the Toyota baja pictures! These trucks are awesome!!!!!!!!!!! Pity the fools drivin' 'merican liabilities.
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Gadget
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Posts: 851
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Location: Point Loma CA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Thanks for your usual overkill, irrelevant answer, David. Quite a reply for a subject that "makes no difference to you."
Why dont you just form the fan club that you so deperately need, instead of subjecting us to all this Baja Budda preening, day after day? Even the
Lord only requires formal worship once a week.
Gawd, it gets old.
Cant you just make up a nice coffee-table book of all your Baja travels and look through it 2-3 times a day? Maybe show it to the neighbors over the
back fence, for the needed stroking.
I guess I reached my limit .......again. Made it a couple months this time.
Bring it on, fan club. I'll treat it as penance for my sacrilege........ |
My dear amigo Hook, please know that this is what I do (post stuff on Nomad about Baja) and nobody is forcing you to look at what I post. Yes, they
are some of the same photos and same comments I have posted before.... However, there are NEW people here every day and I continue to get emails
praising my sharing my Baja-ism on the Internet.
I am very sorry what I am doing is bumming you out. I want to help people discover adventures in Baja, I enjoy writing about Baja... You did follow me
on one of the group outings, even... I was happy to meet you. I am not intentionally posting to irritate you or the others who would like me to go
away because they think I am some kind of threat to 'their Baja'.
Now, when I see something that doesn't interest me or I don't like... I move on to something that does interest me. But, I would not put down the
person who posted those things because what he does will not take away from my ability to post stuff here... There is no LIMIT to the amount of Baja
sharing a Nomad can do.
How about allowing me to enjoy Baja Nomad and I wish you the same and ignore my 'bad' habit of showing old photos or talking about Baja stuff
repeatedly. I mean, I could do worse... Right?
Peace, Love and Fish Tacos to you Mr. Hook! |
A kindred spirit here for sure. We're only separated by several thousand posts David.
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
http://www.LocosMocos.com
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64855
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Thanks Gadget and k1w1...
I do agree that I have an (almost) obscene number of posts... But, besides being afflicted with Baja fever and the need to share, I am the oldest
active Nomad after Doug... I was the 10th registered Nomad. Nomads #2-9 never posted or just posted once back in 2002. So, I got a head start on the
rest of you!
Hey if their isn't anything interesting to me to write about, I just go back to Google satellite and look for old mission trails, from space! Have you
seen my posts on the El Camino Real from Space? They are posted on the Baja Historic Interests and Literature forum.
You see, I don't watch TV very much... I enjoy this so much more! 
Now, what was Surfer Jim's question again??? 
[Edited on 3-29-2007 by David K]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Believe me the 4.0 litre V-6 in my Tacoma is all the power you will need... 245 HP I believe is the rating... |
That may well be, David, but it's a somewhat moot point. That engine is not available in any 4x4 model in the new Tundra. Not too many interested in
Baja would be interested in a 4x2. 236 HP on the 4.0 liter engine, BTW.
Taco TTs (Tent Tow-ers) just aint the same thing, man. Toyota is trying to move beyond the Tonka class with the new Tundra. If it's like any other market they enter, they will probably do just fine.
Looks like the new Tundra 4x4 crew cab, long bed weighs about 1500# less than my F350 4x4, supercab, diesel. Figure maybe a 300-400# difference in
engine weight, maybe saving about 150-200# in the bed length discrepancies and the composite vs metal difference.........that's still about 1000# of
weight difference somewhere.  It will be interesting to see how they hold up, towing at or near their capacity.
Not that that American trucks aren't subject to problems doing this, dont you know.
GVWR are significantly less than my F350. I can load about 1 k more. My CGVWR is around 20 k; looks like the big Tundra is about 17.7 k.
But what were they thinking with that 26 gallon tank? If it gets 14 city, towing around 10k will probably drop that into the neighborhood of 10 mpg.
260 mile range? Will they make it from El Rosario to Jesus Maria? Just barely........better hope for no head wind.
Bout damn time Toyota went with 4 wheel disc brakes........ |
I was responding to this from Bajaguy:
Tacoma
Actually, if Toyota put the I-Force V-8 in the new Tacoma, I'd buy one in a heartbeat
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k1w1
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k
okey dokey artichokey.
consider it shoved.
now where's my truck keys? aaaahhhh the comfort of true reliability.
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Crusoe
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David.......Your reply to Hook was again spot-on! Please.... never change your style. Really.... you could post more old pictures and tell more tales
and all the newer members like myself are the real winners.Can you just imagine if this website had been available to folks in the 60s and 70s. Wow!!
" Keep On Truckin and Postin". Thanks
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bajaguy
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Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
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OK, not to drag this out, but to clarify, I would be first in line to buy a Tacoma if Toyota offered it with the 4.7 liter I Force V-8.
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David K
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You guys!
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DianaT
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Well, to not repeat myself, I won't thank David K again for all the information I have gathered from him. 
Besides, I love our Got Baja Bumper sticker --- it sits ABOVE a political bumber sticker with which I suspect David would disagree, but we do agree
about Baja. 
Back to Toyota. The first time we saw the double cab short bed Tacoma was almost 10 years ago --- They made that model for Central America and it
was very popular. We really liked it, and still do, except we would like one with a full size bed and double cab. Wonder if Toyota will build one.
Tundra still going strong for now.
Diane
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David K
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They have a long bed Tacoma with the double cab...
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
They have a long bed Tacoma with the double cab... |
Guess we will have to look a little further. We just wandered around a local Toyota place----they had lots of Tacomas, but not one with a double cab
and long bed----we didn't speak to a salesperson.
Thanks for the info!
Diane
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Thanks for your usual overkill, irrelevant answer, David. Quite a reply for a subject that "makes no difference to you."
Why dont you just form the fan club that you so deperately need, instead of subjecting us to all this Baja Budda preening, day after day? Even the
Lord only requires formal worship once a week.
Gawd, it gets old.
Cant you just make up a nice coffee-table book of all your Baja travels and look through it 2-3 times a day? Maybe show it to the neighbors over the
back fence, for the needed stroking.
I guess I reached my limit .......again. Made it a couple months this time.
Bring it on, fan club. I'll treat it as penance for my sacrilege........ |
Hook, you are wasting your time - he'll never get it.
[Edited on 3-30-2007 by Roberto]
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David K
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Roberto, I do get it... You don't.
I am fully aware that I am posting the same photos and information repeatedly... What you (and those that think like you) refuse to get is that Nomad
(like economics) is not STATIC... It is dynamic, ie. NEW people come here all the time... They are the ones I post the old stuff for, and as you can
read above, they appreciate it.
There is NO limit on how many people can post here, and my posting a lot does not prevent you or anyone else from posting when you want. Baja Nomad is
dynamic not static...
There is no logic to your complaints. Don't read my stuff if you don't like it. Don't compain, as it doesn't change anything but making your dislike
of my helping (new) Nomads all the more obvious.
Just think of the good you could do if you took the same amount of time (whining about my posts) to actually contribute something useful or
interesting to Baja travelers? Of course that would make you appear to be someone who is generous and kind and I am not sure if you can handle a 180
degree change in your attitude??? It would be nice and it would be most welcomed!
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Roberto, I do get it... You don't.
I am fully aware that I am posting the same photos and information repeatedly... What you (and those that think like you) refuse to get is that Nomad
(like economics) is not STATIC... It is dynamic, ie. NEW people come here all the time... They are the ones I post the old stuff for, and as you can
read above, they appreciate it.
There is NO limit on how many people can post here, and my posting a lot does not prevent you or anyone else from posting when you want. Baja Nomad is
dynamic not static...
There is no logic to your complaints. Don't read my stuff if you don't like it. Don't compain, as it doesn't change anything but making your dislike
of my helping (new) Nomads all the more obvious.
Just think of the good you could do if you took the same amount of time (whining about my posts) to actually contribute something useful or
interesting to Baja travelers? Of course that would make you appear to be someone who is generous and kind and I am not sure if you can handle a 180
degree change in your attitude??? It would be nice and it would be most welcomed!
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How did that go ... cluck cluck cluck?
But, you are right I don't contribute anything to Baja travelers. And I don't lie or take advantage of others either. ANd I don't give a flying ####
what you or your clan think would be most welcomed, so stick it where the sun don't shine.
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David K
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Nice... really nice. Your 'friendliness' really gets you places in life, huh Roberto?
I will remind you that we met only once (at your former lot at Camp Gecko)and it was nice, I thanked you for helping a friend, gave you a sticker and
that was it. We never have talked in person since.
Since then you have acted hostile and on that other forum posted lies and hate about me... Why? I have done nothing to you to provoke that kind of
treatment. Is it you got some kind of 'brownie points' for the amount of anti David K stuff you can come up with? Time to grow up Roberto, I will be
50 this year and I suspect you are older... Can't this college boy stuff end?
If there are issues still stirring in your head that you can't let go of, then let's get them resolved. I do not have any reason to lie, and am
against it for personal reasons. The truth about certain things in the past may not be as colorful as believing any stories you are holding on to.
Rather than doing any more laundering here on the forum, you can U2U me. You know like that really 'nice' one from 9-17-03...
I would like a truce to you hostilities towards me, as I have never been hostile to you... only defensive.
Thanks.
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