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Bob and Susan
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just watch out if you see the "red dot"
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DENNIS
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The red dot would be the last thing you saw.
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Al G
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This is getting better and better!!!
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Gnome-ad
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Good one, Dennis.
Demeanor, yes. Look calm, talk about the grandkids and how hot it is sitting in the car waiting. At the TJ crossing last year all I could seem to talk
about was how many enormous plastic beer mugs one van could possibly purchase from the guy running back and forth to the store. No, wait, now they're
buying oversize plastic Tinker Bells! What the hey? Those folks had really BAD taste in souvenirs ...
The only normal people are the ones you don't know very well. - Ancis
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osoflojo
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In God we trust.......... all others we keep under surviellance.
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DENNIS
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So, at this point of critical discussion, what's up with DonBaja's wager for a case of Pacifico? Does he win or lose?
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woody with a view
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sorry
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DENNIS
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The votes are pouring in, folks. Not sure our technology is up to the task but, we have the count at:
1----ZIP
Thanks Woody.
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Mexitron
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Taco de Baja and I were in the Seven Sisters one summer when some Feds in a Humvee pulled up. At that moment we were building a BBQ pit with the
beach rocks but they must have thought we were building a signal flare for drug runners--when we got back to the US Customs we were put into secondary
immediately--no questions asked. We figured the Feds had radioed our license plate to the border and the Customs database/laser scope was
sophisticated enough to nab us. It was a two hour wait in secondary to see if we were sweating, not finding anything they let us on our way. So Big
Brother even has eyes deep in Mexico.
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DENNIS
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Mexitron ----
I have difficulty believing there is that level of cooperation between our countrys.
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Bajafun777
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Dennis, we do not need Mexico's cooperation to watch both sides of the border with our camera systems. Cameras are positioned all the way down the
border fence. There are times when the face does not come out real clear however they can just blow them up making the picture bigger. These cameras
help I.D. who people are that are fighting border patrol agents in the immediate border fence aread. Further, it helps I.D. those individuals that
are throwing things over the border fence either at border patrol agents or citizens in the community. Just another hard day in the pack rat group
but we still have coices. Later----------bajafun777
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TMW
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In 93 I had my 91 chevy PU stolen. I turned it in to the Mexican insurance and CHP in CA and was told by CHP it would take 7-10 days before it got
into the system. That was on a Tuesday. The truck was found the following Sunday and I went to TJ on Monday to get it. When I approched the Otay
border crossing the guard put the license number in several times like he couldn't believe what was coming up. All the while he was talking to the car
in front of me he was watching me with his hand on his gun. I keep my hands on the wheel as he motioned me forward to him. He never took his eyes off
me. When he walked up I explained it was my stolen truck and had the papers on the seat. He cautioned me to pull forward and stop and not move while
he closed the gate behind. He then cautioned me to move with him while he walked to secondary. He again cautioned me to stay in the truck while he
went inside to check the papers and call the San Diego police. About an hour later after talking to the police I was on my way home.
I don't think they automatically enter your license when leaving the country. I think any cameras are for survailence(sp) only. It would be rather
hard to get a clear rear license with a lot of cars backed up bumper to bumper going south.
[Edited on 6-13-2007 by TW]
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tjvagabundo
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by TWI don't think they automatically enter your license when leaving the country. I think any cameras are for
survailence(sp) only. It would be rather hard to get a clear rear license with a lot of cars backed up bumper to bumper going south.
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If the cameras were for surveilance only then why do they have 2 cameras for each lane mounted in opposite directions? Sure when traffic is backed up
then it would be more difficult to capture a plate number but how often is the traffic backed up going south? Usually, around 21 to 22 hours each day,
the area where the cameras are located is wide open with no traffic.
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Gypsy Jan
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Asi, asi
The border at San Ysidro going north is what it is
...and so is the kind of interrogation you will undergo.
I have no front id plate on my car. After a traffic accident fifteen years ago where a semi rearended and sent me to the hospital, my kids bought me
a non-DMV vanity license plate to celebrate the sturdiness of the car that saved my life.
I have been crossing the border at San Ysidro, weekly, monthly or quarterly for more than eight years.
Sometimes the agent gets out of his booth to check my rear license and type it in. Otherwise, its the regular, "What are you bringing back from
Mexico?" question.
What's on my side is that I answer honestly without elaboration, because being chatty and/or nervous sends up the antennas.
What works for me is to say a greeting, along the effect of, "Hi, how are you today?". Then I wait for any questions. Mostly I it''s "I bought this
and that, here are the receipts." or ,"I am bringing nothing back from Mexico."
Next, if asked my destination, "Going home." And I supply the address promptly if asked.
Also, "Thank you." as you leave is always a good idea.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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woody with a view
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Next, if asked my destination, "Going home." And I supply the address promptly if asked.
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reminds me of the joke-
a guy get's pulled over on the freeway by the CHP. when the cop asks, "where you going?'
the guy points directly ahead, "that way!" you know, with the flow of traffic?
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bajalou
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Downtown Mexicali crossing today about noon - Agent asks for my drivers license, then asks if I have a rear plate, I say "Yes" and he walks to the
rear and notes the plate number, then entered something in his computer, gave me back my license and waved me on. If these cameras were doing what
people talk about, why does he have to walk around and look at the plate? I have AZ plate which doesn't issue front plates. This happens every time
I cross at either Mexicali crossing and Andrate.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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Bajafun777
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bajalou, driving into Mexico rear plate---coming back into the USA front plate. Believe me I been involved with their camera systems and they can see
a long way off and with fisheye cameras you have a wide span of vision . The
night vision abilities of these agencies are just beyond belief. Like the big bad wolf said when asked about his eyes being so big
"the better to see you my dear." Our borders are getting better with detering crime but crime does not give up and just keeps coming at the officers
on the border. Never a dull moment and never a quiet day, as every day is an adventure!!! Have a good one----bajafun777
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Mexitron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Mexitron ----
I have difficulty believing there is that level of cooperation between our countrys. |
We subsidize the war on drugs down there...or at least we used to. Don't you remember some years ago all the nice new Humvees...? We bought those
for the Feds.
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Mango
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I worked for a webcam development company in the late 90's and up to just a bit past 911. I can tell you that most people would be shocked if they
knew the capabilities and the number of cameras in the world today.
You can easily take a image of a license plate and turn it into alpha-numerical data and run it though a database. (Think about it .. all license
plates in USA/MEXICO are the same format/size/location.. pretty easy..) My boss was working on a system to pass a singular license plate from camera
to camera (track a car down a freeway, etc...)
After 911 my work went from documenting large construction projects to big brother tasks.. so I left. I have no problem working for my government and
supporting them; but, I guess I am old school and support privacy and our 4th amendment so I quit.
I cross at Mexicali often since mi novia lives here. Sometimes I get many questions (fine with me), sometimes they don't scan my passport.. sometimes
they do. I don't think they care that I have been in Mexico for x amount of time. They just care if I am a threat or bringing something to the USA
that I should not. That is fine with me..it is their job.
If we need cameras anywhere in the USA, it should be at the borders. It is a technology that is here and is usable. It should have some checks to
its power in everyday use; but, our borders is one place it does/could really help.
My father worked on top secret aircraft during the viet namm war that had capabilities beyond what most people would think is possible today. Just
think.. the stealth planes are 30 years old!
"If you don't do it, someone else will. When you do it, at least you have a little control over how it is done. You can try to make sure it is done
right." -My father
/\/\ango
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amir
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So is the bet that started this thread settled yet? What happened to that case of Pacifico?
We know now that there are cameras at the border. We know the plates are entered in the computers and everything is logged somewhere.
Why? Because Big Brother is watching. Big Brother wants to know everything about everybody. It justifies billions of dollars spent on a War on
Terrorism and War on Information to "pevent future attacks".
It is all spelled out in the Patriot Act, and each year it gets more and more invasive. I don't have any problems with information being gathered
about who or what length of time somebody leaves the USA; I am more bothered by the reasons of why Big Brother needs to know what books I checked out
at the local library or what movies I rented at the video store. How can a "free" country justify that incursion into privacy?
--Amir
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