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baitcast
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Haven,t seen it this active in a long time,its a shame it took a gut-shot breeder to get things moving again
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n8nlee
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Yeah minnow, you just keep telling yourself that it's not real. That there are no spearfishermen in your baja. Whenever something comes along that
you can't handle, just close your eyes and tell yourself that "it's not real" over and over.
So what did those bad bad men do to you in Gonzaga?
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n8nlee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by n8nlee
So don't you feel stupid for all those posts to a piece of fiction? |
Huh? Are you saying that your original post ("first report") was a fabrication? 
--Larry |
nope. story and fish are real. I was just remarking to minnow that if he believes my story was a fabrication, then he should feel stupid for all his
posts.
But at this point, the authenticity of the report is a moot point.
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by n8nlee]
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Minnow
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| Quote: | Originally posted by n8nlee
But at this point, the authenticity of the report is a moot point.
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by n8nlee] |
Validate your story then. Answer some of the questions posed to you. Where, when, and how you managed to hold a 200 lb fish up for a picture. Not to mention you wrote that you shot is in the gut. Where's the hole?
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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n8nlee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by n8nlee
But at this point, the authenticity of the report is a moot point. |
No, it's not. People like to know whether you come here to mess with us or play with us. There's a big difference... 
BTW, congratulations on your correct spelling of "moot." Maybe there's hope...
--Larry |
Ahhh, I came here and asked some questions about a couple places. I've done a fair bit of research elsewhere and wanted to get a wider and hopefully
more up to date info. I posted my report as way of contributing back because reports are the currency of any board.
Didn't know "moot" was a troublesome word. I guess if that provides you hope, then consider that my efforts to help advance humanity.
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n8nlee
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I'd like to introduce you to "The Google". It can help you to look much smarter than you really are. You could have easily entered "weight
conversion" into this "The Google" and it would have provided links to sites that convert kg into lbs. You can then drag your knuckles over the
keyboard and type in 70 in the little box designated for kg and you would have seen what it converts to in lbs. Furthermore, there is reference to
140lbs somewhere in my report.
Now to your insistent whining about validating my report. I will only provide that information if you tell me in all it's glorious (or is it gory)
detail of what those mean, bad, poo-poo head men did to you in Gonzaga.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
| Quote: | Originally posted by n8nlee
But at this point, the authenticity of the report is a moot point.
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by n8nlee] |
Validate your story then. Answer some of the questions posed to you. Where, when, and how you managed to hold a 200 lb fish up for a picture. Not to mention you wrote that you shot is in the gut. Where's the hole?
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Minnow
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| Quote: | Originally posted by n8nlee
Now to your insistent whining about validating my report. I will only provide that information if you tell me in all it's glorious (or is it gory)
detail of what those mean, bad, poo-poo head men did to you in Gonzaga.
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by n8nlee] |
Are you referring to my post about if you should go to gonzaga or BOLA?
I would hate to see one of my favorite places on earth ruined by the likes of you.
Take a look at my links. That is probably as close as you will ever get.
Got any more pictures from your imaginary trip? I didn't think so.
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m12m12
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Nice fish
n8nlee,
Thank you for sharing your experience. I find it interesting how people can justify killing younger fish instead of older ones. I have always had a
problem with this because younger fish often do not get the chance to reproduce and help re stock our fisheries. We all need to do are part to help
conserve our oceans.
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Mexitron
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Sorry, nice skill, but I hope trophy hunters are a dying breed...doesn't make sense these days.
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n8nlee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
| Quote: | Originally posted by n8nlee
Now to your insistent whining about validating my report. I will only provide that information if you tell me in all it's glorious (or is it gory)
detail of what those mean, bad, poo-poo head men did to you in Gonzaga.
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by n8nlee] |
Are you referring to my post about if you should go to gonzaga or BOLA?
I would hate to see one of my favorite places on earth ruined by the likes of you.
Take a look at my links. That is probably as close as you will ever get.
Got any more pictures from your imaginary trip? I didn't think so.
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Nooooooooooo...
Here's what I'm talking about :
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Your bad experience at Alfonsina's (or people who have homes there) shouldn't be used to discourage others from enjoyng Gonzaga Bay... Try Beluga...
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by David K] |
Your bad experience there must have been really bad, huh? You're trying very hard to repress it.
You retelling it will probably be very cathartic. It'd be good for you.
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Minnow
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Who ever you are? OK, my side is hurting from laughing so hard. You are rebutting me with a quote from DK? Your lone friend here on Nomads.
Heres what I would do if someone on the internet questioned my integrity. Post every fact, friend, picture...... you have to back up your story.
Nomads are a smart group, for the most part. I am not the favorite here, like some think they are. However, I don't see many coming to your defense.
Kick my arse. Post it if you got it.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by m12m12
n8nlee,
Thank you for sharing your experience. I find it interesting how people can justify killing younger fish instead of older ones. I have always had a
problem with this because younger fish often do not get the chance to reproduce and help re stock our fisheries. We all need to do are part to help
conserve our oceans. |
Well the problem with this thinking is that younger fish will sometimes not get to breeder size by natural methods either. Whereas, with the larger
ones, you are pretty much guaranteed to be eliminating breeding stock. We need all of that we can get.
This post is so incendiary and on-going that I have to conclude the original poster came here just to get this kind of reaction.
Would anyone really profess to being a "oneupmanship" trophy hunter in this day and age?
Not an intelligent person.
Said to see these fish targeted basically for an egotistical reason.........legal or not.
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by Hook]
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n8nlee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Who ever you are? OK, my side is hurting from laughing so hard. You are rebutting me with a quote from DK? Your lone friend here on Nomads.
Heres what I would do if someone on the internet questioned my integrity. Post every fact, friend, picture...... you have to back up your story.
Nomads are a smart group, for the most part. I am not the favorite here, like some think they are. However, I don't see many coming to your defense.
Kick my arse. Post it if you got it. |
Oh, that's rich. You're not even rebutting me. All you do is sidestep my points.
I'll say it again. Share what happened to you at Alfonisa's or with the residents of Gonzaga as eluded to by David K's post and I'll give you the
details of that report.
I don't know David K so I can't consider him a friend. His posts on this thread lead me to believe he isn't anti-spearfishing. That doesn't make him
my friend. So all those members who don't agree with me taking a grouper or is anti spearfishing are your friends? Now I understand why you
continually write about "imaginary friends".
Is that why you have your picture, pictures of your "friends" (do they know they're your friends?) on a website? Because your integrity is called so
often that you got tired of posting pictures of them, so you just put up a permanent page to which you refer?
You're not the favorite here? Impossible! Who'd believe it.
I think anyone reading our exchange realizes that I'm not the one that needs aid. I have received U2U's telling me to ignore you and the nicest thing
anyone has said about you is that you're a "problem child" of this board. You wanna guess what the other things said about you are?
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n8nlee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by m12m12
n8nlee,
Thank you for sharing your experience. I find it interesting how people can justify killing younger fish instead of older ones. I have always had a
problem with this because younger fish often do not get the chance to reproduce and help re stock our fisheries. We all need to do are part to help
conserve our oceans. |
Well the problem with this thinking is that younger fish will sometimes not get to breeder size by natural methods either. Whereas, with the larger
ones, you are pretty much guaranteed to be eliminating breeding stock. We need all of that we can get.
This post is so incendiary and on-going that I have to conclude the original poster came here just to get this kind of reaction.
Would anyone really profess to being a "oneupmanship" trophy hunter in this day and age?
Not an intelligent person.
Said to see these fish targeted basically for an egotistical reason.........legal or not.
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by Hook] |
Your conclusion about me would be wrong. I came here to get a wider perspective on a few places I was considering going. Some nice members were
helpful with their replies and suggestions.
This being a forum, I thought the best way to give back was to post a report.
So admitting that I will only take a bigger fish than my last makes me ignorant? There's a chance that I'll never take another grouper because I may
never see one as big. So in my lifetime, I would have only killed one fish of that species. I'd say that's pretty selective.
Now, to the fish. Take a closer look at it. Does the body look too small for the head? Or does the head just look huge in comparison to the body?
Could the fish be slowly starving to death? Look at the lower jaw of the fish. Does that far corner look odd? Maybe the jagged edge looks like the
jaw is torn? That male has seen better days.
I believe you meant to say "Sad to see..." but I won't use that as a gauge of your intelligence.
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Minnow
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| Quote: | Originally posted by n8nlee
Oh, that's rich. You're not even rebutting me. All you do is sidestep my points.
I'll say it again. Share what happened to you at Alfonisa's or with the residents of Gonzaga as eluded to by David K's post and I'll give you the
details of that report.
I don't know David K so I can't consider him a friend. His posts on this thread lead me to believe he isn't anti-spearfishing. That doesn't make him
my friend. So all those members who don't agree with me taking a grouper or is anti spearfishing are your friends? Now I understand why you
continually write about "imaginary friends".
Is that why you have your picture, pictures of your "friends" (do they know they're your friends?) on a website? Because your integrity is called so
often that you got tired of posting pictures of them, so you just put up a permanent page to which you refer?
You're not the favorite here? Impossible! Who'd believe it.
I think anyone reading our exchange realizes that I'm not the one that needs aid. I have received U2U's telling me to ignore you and the nicest thing
anyone has said about you is that you're a "problem child" of this board. You wanna guess what the other things said about you are?
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Thanks
for proving what I have know for years.
Like you, reality has no place in some peoples lives.
Validate your story. Quit talking in circles. Lets see some more pictures from your trip.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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tripledigitken
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Spearhunter,
Your longwinded exchange with Minnow certainly proves you have a very high opinion of yourself. An opinion few share here.
Your bragging of taking a larger fish each time you go hunting doesn't seem to be impressing many here either. Isn't there a more appropriate place
to bond with other spearhunters, say bloodydecks.com?
Why not take a camera next time to "shoot" a trophy, you might impress more people with a picture below water.
What's the biggest Great White Shark that you've speared?
Ken
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Hook
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Oh, so you put it out of it's starving misery, did you? You were actually doing the fish a favor, were you? Maybe the whole species a favor?
What a caring individual you are...........
Let's see, big trophy hunter for ego and a savior to the species, too.
My, how someone has deluded you, Renaissance Man..........
This guy has my vote for the First Annual Ricardo Cabeza de Baja Award.
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by Hook]
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Frank
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So your buddy helped you drag the fish out of the hole after you gut shot the fish twice. I thought you guys were all about fighting the fish one on
one? Looks like the fish kicked your A$$ and you had to have your buddy help you out. Maybe you shouldnt of taken the shot, but got greedy and did it
anyways? Thats not sport.
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n8nlee. Agree with your take on the condition of the fish in the picture, very much on the thin side. Maybe something has gone haywire with the food chain? Hope not! About killing and giving fish to the neighborhood, you diminish the value of your catch when you give it away. Why kill
something just to give it away?
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n8nlee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
n8nlee. Agree with your take on the condition of the fish in the picture, very much on the thin side. Maybe something has gone haywire with the food chain? Hope not! About killing and giving fish to the neighborhood, you diminish the value of your catch when you give it away. Why kill
something just to give it away? |
I don't think it has anything to do with the food chain. It looks like the fish suffered a catastrophic injury to it's jaw and is having trouble
feeding. All the other grouper we saw were very portly.
I didn't kill it to just give it away. I shared the kill with friends and neighbors.
[Edited on 8-8-2007 by n8nlee]
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