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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Doesn't the story say the most badly injured were sent to GN for a night, so the air ambulance could come pick them up there in the AM? The other two
were sent north with their friends who were traveling with them. It's all in the story posted here. |
Thank you Minnow, for answering. Yes, I read the same story as you. What you say is true about overnighting in a GN clinic. As you say, "the air
ambulance could come pick them up", but did they?
........or as Oldhippie says, they probably went by ambulance. These two scenarios are vastly different if time is of the essence. I was hoping that
those who know the accident victims, and who posted here originally, could tell us the mechanics of how they were evacuated. Who did they call? Who
responded? How were the financial arrangements handled? They obviously were successful at getting the injured to San Diego quickly after being
stabilized overnight in GN.
I think these questions are in the true spirit of Nomads helping Nomads. We can all benefit from their experience.
I did sign up with Celia Diaz of BiNational, last year. It is comforting to have your ducks in a row before an emergency. If
airplanes and helicopters can't get in there, we need to know this, and make other arrangements.
Shari, thank you for your wise words of caution and your offer to help, if needed. NOMADS....listen to Shari!!! It is too easy to get careless or to
think "this can't happen to me". 
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bajajudy
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Toneart
I have been waiting for that answer too.
And still am!
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Skeet/Loreto
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It is very satsifying to see all the Positive Words! Keep them coming as there are many Dangers on the roads that can be shared by the Nomads who live
and travel that Hwy.
Yes! the Road does get much Narrower south of San Quintin.
Never pass a Truck or other vehicle on that section while pulling a Trailer. Pull over and take a Pee Break. Prepare for the Worst , and get to know
the Locals, It may save your Life!!
Skeet/Loreto
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by craiggers
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
When Highway One was completed in Central Baja (Dec. 1, 1973), we were told the extra narrow section of the highway, between San Quintin and San
Ignacio, was temporary (done to complete the project within budget and on time)... and that it would be widened soon! |
Extra narrow section of the highway, between San Quintin and San Ignacio? That's funny, I never noticed any difference. How much narrower is it? They
should have saved money by leaving out those little white concrete suicide polls just off the shoulder. What are they there for? Just to remind you
that if you are hanging off the shoulder that you have really screwd up and
100kph=62mph
80kph=49mph
60kph=37mph
[Edited on 8-13-2007 by craiggers]
[Edited on 8-13-2007 by craiggers] |
Yes indeed, at Km. marker 0 on the south side of Lazaro Card##as (San Quintin) the pavement shrinks to nearly 19 feet wide... plus the road is
elevated with no shoulders... A real death maker for those with trailers, motorhomes, Hummers, etc. when passing cars or being passed.
Pavement at the end of 1972 had reached near San Quintin going south and almost to San Ignacio going north.
When I said between San Quintin and San Ignacio I was refering to the last section of Hwy. 1 to get built. That was 350 miles, which all happened in
1973.
From Santa Rosalia on south, I think the highway is not as narrow and has some shoulders too.
Photo near San Agustin...
(bottom photo of Hwy. 1 taken by jrbaja to illustrate the narrowness and danger)
[Edited on 8-14-2007 by David K]
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The Sculpin
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Aren't we preaching to the chior here, folks! Yes the roads are dangerous, yes medical care in baja doesn't have the gizmos that the US has, yes,
there's no shoulder on long stretches. Duh! Some of these posters have comma's in their number of posts!
I'm still interested in how they got out of baja, seeing as the guy who originally wrote the account didn't have a clue. Granted, his narrative was
never intended for our consumption.
Whoa there, Cowboy - pull back on those reins!
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edm1
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Thanks, David for posting the pictures substantiating the narrowness of the highway. (People who've read my trip report about the highway couldn't
believe I was not exaggerating).
[Edited on 8-14-2007 by edm1]
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jeans
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It was Binational Emergency Medical Care Committee
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
I keep asking................How were they evacuated out of Baja? Of course, most don't know, but somebody does. Did they have a
system in place? Did they use an emergency coordinator such as Binational? Did they start from scratch? The original story said they spent overnight
in a clinic and then were airlifted to San Diego.
These people somehow got evacuated pretty quickly, after the most seriously injured were stabilized locally. Can their experience give us any
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The parties involved were BEMCC
members. Celia received a sat phone call from the scene immediatley after it happened. They had air evac insurance.
The only problem during the whole operation were with what Celia called "scavengers"....other evac companies contacting the family saying they were
contacted by Binational. One ambulance wanted to take them to Loreto.
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Corky1
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Maybe Celia might have to issue some sort of I.D. cards to persons authorized by her orgiN-zition to transport.
Although when your on the ground all you want is someone to help!!
Corky
 
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805gregg
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We came upon that accident shortly after it happened. They were picking up scattered gear. Another Ford van with 9 boards on top and a Toyota with the
back packed with assorted gear temporally tied down took off and caught the 2 ambulances. We drove to GN and check into Malarrimo and drove though
town. The 2 ambulances and the chase cars were at the hospital along with the cops. Glad to hear everyone will be ok. Those vans look top heavy
without a load. The picture doesn't show it but the van was facing north, and on the west side of the hwy was a semi, right side up buried in the soft
shoulder sand.
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mismisty
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So glad everyone made it, Cudos to all their friends and everyone else
who helped in an awful sitution.
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rob
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" . . . .here they always tell us...if ya drop a tire onto the shoulder...NEVER try to get back on the highway....go down into the ditch, it will suck
but it beats rolling over."
Shari- been thinking about this . . . trying to visualize that horrible instant as you go over the shoulder (which has happened to me, but FORTUNATELY
at a crawl so I could stop and be pulled out backwards). It makes sense - and goes against all instincts.
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davidre
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When Someone Signals For You To Pass
It merely means that THEY think that it is alright to pass. Secondly, looting of a traffic scene is common in the USA.
The rats justify to themselves that looting is moraly justified, because everything's insured anyway, right?
[Edited on 8-21-2007 by davidre]
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by davidre
It merely means that THEY think that it is alright to pass. Secondly, looting of a traffic scene is common in the USA.
The rats justify to themselves that looting is moraly justified, because everything's insured anyway, right?
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Not so sure that the thinking goes that far. I doubt there is any feeling of moral justification. It is more likely, take it because it is there. It
is a very common practice. To carry the practice even further, the custom is to take anything that cannot be protected, whether it be in or outside of
a vehicle or in or outside of a house. Everything is fair game. 
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