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SDRonni
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Very, very sad......
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070923/news_1n23me...
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Hook
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I dont see this as a setback for the Calderon administration at all, as the article states.
Once Calderon decided to go bare knuckles against the cartel, it's only natural that more blood was going to be spilled and more arms were going to be
discovered.
It's like declaring war and calling the expected increased casualties a setback. WHAT THE HELL DID EVERYONE EXPECT ????
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toneart
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It doesn't make sense to pull the military off of the drug war. They are still manning all the checkpoints and roam the towns. Does it follow that
they should also be pulled off the checkpoints and confined to their base? They were certainly effective in Calderon's early days, in Michoacan and in
Tijuana. They disarmed the police. I would trust the military before I would trust the police. Oh, sure, there are incidences of rogue soldiers, but
there are far greater incidences of rogue police, documented and still going on every day. Besides corruption, the police are afraid of the cartels,
so there some of the mis-deads by police are understandable. A military presence could help to protect the police too....sometimes from
themselves.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
It doesn't make sense to pull the military off of the drug war. They are still manning all the checkpoints and roam the towns. Does it follow that
they should also be pulled off the checkpoints and confined to their base? They were certainly effective in Calderon's early days, in Michoacan and in
Tijuana. They disarmed the police. I would trust the military before I would trust the police. Oh, sure, there are incidences of rogue soldiers, but
there are far greater incidences of rogue police, documented and still going on every day. Besides corruption, the police are afraid of the cartels,
so there some of the mis-deads by police are understandable. A military presence could help to protect the police too....sometimes from
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tonart, I agree with you that the military is more trustworthy. I'd rather have to stop/talk/deal with the military over the police in Mexico any
day. I am not sure why they were pulled off the job, it may have had something to do with the law in Mexico, I'm not sure.
I can tell you one thing though.. I'd rather have a corrupt cop with a .36 than a corrupt soldier with a .50 cal and a Hummer.
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Hook
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"I can tell you one thing though.. I'd rather have a corrupt cop with a .36 than a corrupt soldier with a .50 cal and a Hummer."
So would the cartels.
BTW, what is a .36? A muzzle loader?
[Edited on 9-24-2007 by Hook]
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That has to be a 36+2.
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I'm not much of a gun freak. So maybe I got it a little wrong. Isn't a "Saturday Night Special" a .36 cal?
I could still take an eye (and half a head) out with my David and Goliath sling that I made when I was 12. BTW. I know how to use it pretty well;
but, could never out shoot anyone with a gun.
A little piece of leather and two hemp stings fits in my pocket and there is plenty of ammo just laying around. It will never set off a metal
detector and it's looks don't scare a soul. I take it with me into the wild often.
Might not save me from a bear or drug smuggler; but, I can rocket a 2" diameter rock at several hundred FPS to a 3 foot radius at a 100 yard range any
day. It's a lot of mass.. moving fast. Pretty ugly for whatever it hits.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mango
I'm not much of a gun freak. So maybe I got it a little wrong. Isn't a "Saturday Night Special" a .36 cal?
I could still take an eye (and half a head) out with my David and Goliath sling that I made when I was 12. BTW. I know how to use it pretty well;
but, could never out shoot anyone with a gun.
A little piece of leather and two hemp stings fits in my pocket and there is plenty of ammo just laying around. It will never set off a metal
detector and it's looks don't scare a soul. I take it with me into the wild often.
Might not save me from a bear or drug smuggler; but, I can rocket a 2" diameter rock at several hundred FPS to a 3 foot radius at a 100 yard range any
day. It's a lot of mass.. moving fast. Pretty ugly for whatever it hits.
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Your slingshot won't set off metal detectors, but the "hemp strings" will alert the drug dogs.  
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Saturday Night Specials
For me, Saturday Night Specials usually involved a girl. Come to think of it, a lot of those were in Baja (mostly Tijuana and Ensenada).
The .36 caliber load was popular back in the Black Powder-Percussion days. In fact, I think one of the more popular pistols was the Colt .36 Navy.
I'm not aware of any current .36 loadings.
The "Saturday Night Specials" (so-called by the Anti-Gun Groups) were really any of the lower-cost and lower-caliber revolvers or semi-autos produced
primarily in So Cal. Mostly in .22 or .380.
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There were, at least in the last couple decades, Sat Nite Spec. in the .25 and .32 caliber rounds.
I owned a six-shot, .25 cal, semi-auto made by Bauer once. Tiny little purse-type gun, it was extremely unreliable and jammed often. I sold it on a
street corner in Compton one night.
JUST KIDDING !!!!! ABOUT THE SALE !!!!
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Cheap Pocket Pistols
I'm not aware of the full-range of the derided "Sat Night Specs", of course. I have a few in .22LR and .380ACP. The .25ACP is a good round when
compared to the .22LR but there were a few cheapos chambered for the .22WMR which was superior to the .25. I don't remember having seen any Cheap
.25s. I once had a Beretta Bantam that I DID sell on the streets of South L.A. I know that the .32ACP Seacamp is considered the
Cadillac of Pocket Pistols, but it comes with a high price.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
I once had a Beretta Bantam that I DID sell on the streets of South L.A. |
Ohh, Noooo, Mr. Bill
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