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Bruce R Leech
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how about.............. the United States of America.
no big deal right
what I don't like is when people come here and make up there own names for places like Scorpion Bay. that sucks
[Edited on 5-25-2008 by Bruce R Leech]
Bruce R Leech
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Oso
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The United States is correct because it's plural, as is Los Estados Unidos Mexicanos, the correct full name of Mexico, whereas "El Mexico" and "The
America" are incorrect usages. If one were referring to both BC and BCS in the same sentence, it would be correct to say "The Baja Californias" or
even "The Bajas", just as "Los Cabos" is ok.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Barry A.
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my 2 cents------
I believe that "the Baja" arose when folks were trying to impress their presumably more timid friends of how macho they were, in that they "went to
the Baja" because it was thought to be a wild and wooley place that only the courages and daring would dare visit------THE BAJA------like it was
forbidden ground reserved only for the adventurous.
I remember that I sorta promoted that idea because I did not want every Tom, Dick, and Eloise coming down and crowding me out of the best beach camp
spots. 
Probably Nomad "Vince" thought I was "affected", and maybe he was right.
(but of course I personally NEVER used that term)
Barry
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bent-rim
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I would consider anyone who used the term "The Baja" a rookie.
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Barry A.
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Quote: | Originally posted by bent-rim
I would consider anyone who used the term "The Baja" a rookie. |
-----define "rookie" please. (tho this does NOT apply to me, of course)
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wilderone
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"The Baja" is simply meaningless. "The Lower"?? Wha???
I've noticed on the ThornTree travel forum that some people are calling California, "Cali." I hate that!!!
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bajaguy
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Cloudy and rain here in "the" Carson City. I think I will drive to "the" Reno and see if the weather is better. If not, I may take a trip to "the"
Sacramento or even "the" San Francisco.
Foe sunshine, I will probably just go to Baja!!!!
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Pompano
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..and this?...Kalifornia.
Enough already.
"Every individual or national degeneration is immediately revealed by a directly proportional degradation in language."
Joseph-Marie de Maistre la Frog 1753-1821...wow, wadda guy.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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thebajarunner
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DK- I love it when I can correct you...
Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yah, we used 'The Baja' back in the 70's all the time... long before we ever heard Canadians saying it. High Karate Aftershave had a commercial
showing an eskimo running down the dirt main Baja road, passing broken race buggies, prospectors, cactus... saying that their new aftershave kept the
eskimo so cool, it was the aftershave that 'BEAT THE BAJA'!
The Baja 1000 was a pretty exciting race in the early days, when they raced Hwy. 1 from Ensenada south... and the pavement ended before Colonet.
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David, the race you describe, "Ensenada down the pavement to Camalu" was not the Baja 1000.
It was the Mexican 1000.
Come on man, you knew that....
Just joshing you,
but you will remember that Ed Pearlman would not give the name to SCORE or the Baja Sports Committee (may they rest in peace)
****Sorry to chime in so late with this, we just got back from the Coca Cola 600 where our RGordon again finished dead last***
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jack
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Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
"The Baja" is simply meaningless. "The Lower"?? Wha???
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Hmm, let's see..."I'm going to The Lower". That doesn't seem right. Now lets try "I'm going Lower". That doesn't seem right either, it sounds like
something from a porno movie.:Lil:
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DENNIS
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Who cares? I'm going to the Sharkys and drink the beer. Actually, a few.
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Cypress
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Call it what you want. It's neat country.
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ElFaro
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The Baja is what it is...The Baja. The "the" in The Baja gives The Baja added character.
It's like my recipe for "The Baja" Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich incl. here.
You simply cannot enjoy the real taste of "The Baja Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich" without being on "The Baja".
1 jar of Peanut Butter
1 jar of Jelly (Your choice of flavor)
Small loaf of bread
Spreading knife
Knapkins for spills
Bag
Car
Place peanut butter, jelly, bread, and knapkins in bag.
Put bag in car.
Drive car across border from U.S. into The Baja, Mexico.
Once on The Baja, Mexico pull over and park on the side of the road.
Open jars and spread peanut butter and jelly on two slices of bread.
Make bread slices into sandwich and proceed to eat.
Enjoy...
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Barry A.
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Quote: | Originally posted by ElFaro
The Baja is what it is...The Baja. The "the" in The Baja gives The Baja added character.
It's like my recipe for "The Baja" Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich incl. here.
You simply cannot enjoy the real taste of "The Baja Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich" without being on "The Baja".
1 jar of Peanut Butter
1 jar of Jelly (Your choice of flavor)
Small loaf of bread
Spreading knife
Knapkins for spills
Bag
Car
Place peanut butter, jelly, bread, and knapkins in bag.
Put bag in car.
Drive car across border from U.S. into The Baja, Mexico.
Once on The Baja, Mexico pull over and park on the side of the road.
Open jars and spread peanut butter and jelly on two slices of bread.
Make bread slices into sandwich and proceed to eat.
Enjoy... |
       
Yep!!!! Barry
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wilderone
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PB&J? with Knapkins? Baja amateur. tortillas, queso, salsa. that's a Baja California sandwich.
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David K
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Yes, Thebajarunner... It was The Mexican 1000... but we all called it The Baja 1000 even before NORRA was outted.
Even the Baja 500 was NOT the 'Baja 500' when SCORE started running the shorter race, it was The Baja Internacional, starting in July, 1974 when
Mickey Thompson convinced the Mexicans to let his new organization run Baja races.... eventually changing to the traditional early June date after BSC
crashed as an organization following their '74 Baja 500 race in June.
SCORE continued calling it the Baja Internacional was because of Ed Pearlman holding onto the trademarke name 'Baja 500'. Everyone still called it the
Baja 500 and not 'Baja Internacional', as well.
Eventaully, Pearlman and SCORE came to an agreement and allowed SCORE to call the short race 'Baja 500' officially.
[Edited on 5-28-2008 by David K]
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toneart
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Purists would never say "The Baja"! Not the old timers and certainly not residents. And for that matter, not the informed travelers.
There are those however, who don't care to be correct. It is not important to them. That's OK too.
"The Baja..." is incorrectly used as a noun (whereas it is really an adjective, dependant on a noun).
If you insist on saying "The Baja" it is screaming for an answer:
The Baja what   
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elgatoloco
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I will stop calling it "The Baja" when people stop saying that "The REAL Baja" starts at El Rosario or some other made up location other then the
ACTUAL border.     
MAGA
marooons Are Governing America
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tripledigitken
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Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
I will stop calling it "The Baja" when people stop saying that "The REAL Baja" starts at El Rosario or some other made up location other then the
ACTUAL border.     
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You really don't use the term "The Baja" do you El Gato?  
Ken
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jack
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We should be calling Baja California the same as what the Mexican people who live there call it. Do they shorten the name to Baja or The Baja (Le or
La Baja)? Or do they use the full name Baja California? Can anyone on the forum answer these questions?
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