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JaraHurd
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I think we are fairly close to being on the same page. My father has been "sober" for the past 20 years. If he wasn't I would support him. I would
also expect the full force and effect of the law to apply to him. Thought provoking honest posts are healthy. I am all for rehabilitation. I am all
for second chances. I am also for firm, just punishment. Although what the peson who is the subject of this poast did is irksome and inconvenient, he
did not deserve the physical trauma that resulted in his current condition (is he deceased??). However, the victim did not do anything to this person
intentionally so he brought it upon himself. I suspect that you don't understand why anyone would make fun of what happened to him. I am there with
you. But it has taken YEARS of maturity and experience to get me to where I am today. ....I will now read you article..thanx for providing it. ....j
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BajaGringo
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Life is a process and I am on that same learning path myself. I have come a long way yet I know that I still have a ways to go in trying to figure
this whole thing about what true balance in life really means. Talking about it is a great way to get there and as long as we can have a civil and
thought provoking discussion we can all learn as well as develop a new appreciation for others experiences.
In the process we get to know each other better and perhaps a good friendship or two will result - even if we don't always share the same point of
view. That is not only OK, that makes life a little more interesting in my book.
[Edited on 6-15-2008 by BajaGringo]
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teadust
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oladulce
pardon the detour but -
Teadust:
Your nomad identity/location - "the ether" ??
And your thoughts seemed so clear... |
It's not the wacky "sniff-and-get-woozy" ether, although I suspect I'd probably enjoy that...
Lately I prefer the thought of floating/traveling around floating through the ether rather than where I really am, which is: sitting here shivering in
Seattle! We had snow in April. Twice! The coldest May in the state's history. Temps running below normal in June; local newscasters are calling it
"Junuary" and regaling us with tidbits like the fact Sibera has been warmer than here. Work schedule currently doesn't allow a run for the border, and
it's making me a wee bit cranky. 
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sloopy
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I agree with soulpatch. Any crime hurts us all, one way or the other. I, too, have been a victim...even had a small gun placed at my forehead and
thought it was going to be the last thing I saw.
I have no pity what so ever for criminals and wrongdoers, schemers, scam artists, crooked cops or politicians.
I'm sorry but anyone doing anything even like the fellow described above gets exactly what he deserves.
Yes, it happens on both sides of the border as crime has no bounderies.
I have a friend whose cousin is serving a life sentence for a murder. He was with a group of young punk kids in which one of them decided to beat up
and rob another young kid. Things got out of hand and the kid died.Just because he was there with them, he got charged as if he actually did it. He's
served 22 years so far and was 18 when he went in. What a waste of a life. He was a regular teenage kid, just had some bad friends he hung out with
and now he's paying for it. Never listened to his parents or relatives, just wanted to "do his own thing."
I've not seen him since he went in but I'll bet a dollar to a donut he's sorry he went out that night with his so-called friends. You reap what you
sow, as they say. Literally killed his folks, too, as you can see the pain and sorrow in their eyes all the time.
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bacquito
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In reading some of these threads it seems to me that there is an attempt to associate what the crook did and "punishment". He tried to rob somebody
of their property and got stuck underneath the car-an accident and not punishment.
However, I have no pity for the ratero.
bacquito
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Gypsy Jan
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Forgiveness
OK, I can't believe that I am wading back into this pool of testosterone vengeance.
None of you have been personally hurt by this person - you are just expressing your own set of values and wishes for repurcussions.
Do you really want to go the the hospital to rip off the other arm of this thief?
Somebody we all are acquainted with forgave a thief as he was dying.
Sermon over.
[Edited on 6-17-2008 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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JaraHurd
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Gypsy Jan ...in rereading this thread I am tempted to slap myself. Why am I wasting my time? I go to Baja Nomad to read such silliness? Some of the
responses are simply ridiculous. But what do u expect from a relatively anonymous public website? I guess people are just venting. I interview
criminals every day. I too have been a victim of several violent crimes but have not lost my humanity..atleast not yet. It takes a lot of patience to
remain this way, however. Just understand that the majority of people are fairly decent and level-headed. The majority. .....
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Skeet/Loreto
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Yes I would Forgive him!
Faith Hope and Charity with a little Kindness and caring might have prevented this person from being a Criminal?
Eye for and Eye, sometimes seems Cruel but in Gods Nature the Survival of the Fitest is always there.
I forgave all those that I Thought had done bad things to me many years ago.
Tough, but one of the best things I ever did.
Anon the Preacher
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Yes I would Forgive him!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What a freakin joke. It didn't happen to you, Skeet. Let's see all this Christian nonsense come alive when it does.
OOOOh Yeah..He was just a misguided soul. He deserves compassion and forgivness. He's needy. He's on drugs and can't be considered responsible.
It's our fault. He needs our understanding. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHAHAJEJEJEHAHA H-effingA.
All of you bleeding hearts should send your commie contributions to the Ninth District Court of appeals In SF.
Why is it that when GWB obliterates a culture and you say nothing, you will castigate anybody here for supporting real justice? What is your
problem?
I'll tell you what it is.......You havn't the spheres to confront what is ruining our lives. You are the problem because you won't protect
yourselves. Theives and scoundrals will continue to practice their trade because of you who won't take a hard line toward self protection. Shame on
you for that. You get what you allow.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Yes I would Forgive him!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What a freakin joke. It didn't happen to you, Skeet. Let's see all this Christian nonsense come alive when it does.
OOOOh Yeah..He was just a misguided soul. He deserves compassion and forgivness. He's needy. He's on drugs and can't be considered responsible.
It's our fault. He needs our understanding. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHAHAJEJEJEHAHA H-effingA.
All of you bleeding hearts should send your commie contributions to the Ninth District Court of appeals In SF.
Why is it that when GWB obliterates a culture and you say nothing, you will castigate anybody here for supporting real justice? What is your
problem?
I'll tell you what it is.......You havn't the spheres to confront what is ruining our lives. You are the problem because you won't protect
yourselves. Theives and scoundrals will continue to practice their trade because of you who won't take a hard line toward self protection. Shame on
you for that. You get what you allow. |
Thank you Dennis , he got what he deserved and what he asked for.
CaboRon
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JaraHurd
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The saying "Get a life" comes to mind. Is Mexico really that boring?
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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JaraHurd
The saying "Get a life" comes to mind. Is Mexico really that boring? |
well put. keep in mind the combination of OLD and PI$$ED OFF is not a healthy combination.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gibson
| Quote: | Originally posted by JaraHurd
The saying "Get a life" comes to mind. Is Mexico really that boring? |
well put. keep in mind the combination of OLD and PI$$ED OFF is not a healthy combination. |
Neither is YOUNG and STUPID ...
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JaraHurd
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I am neither young nor stupid. It is amazing how consistently negative the posts from supposedly tenured members of this website are. I suppose you
must believe that your age justifies the disrespect you spew. Whatever. I have earned my opinion and although far from liberal, I try to keep a
level-head. Being old and bitter is too easy but an absolute turn-off. Someone once told me that anger consumes atleast half of its own poison. That's
obviously not true..or maybe you both are absolute medical miracles! Congrats..
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JaraHurd
I am neither young nor stupid. It is amazing how consistently negative the posts from supposedly tenured members of this website are. I suppose you
must believe that your age justifies the disrespect you spew. Whatever. I have earned my opinion and although far from liberal, I try to keep a
level-head. Being old and bitter is too easy but an absolute turn-off. Someone once told me that anger consumes atleast half of its own poison. That's
obviously not true..or maybe you both are absolute medical miracles! Congrats.. |
I called you young... because you called me old... in fact I am probably younger than you ... and keep your judgemental crap to yourself.
CaboRon
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Aventurera
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Okay, does anyone know if this supposed incident even really happened? I read both Frontera and El Mexicano every day online and saw no reports of
this incident...and God knows those papers looooove to report that kind of news. I also went to El Vigia and looked for a report there but found
nothing.
So I'm thinking this might be a case of much ado about nothing!
[Edited on 6-18-2008 by Aventurera]
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JaraHurd
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I think I intimated that you might be tenured..not old. At any rate, go to the video store and rent or buy the movie The Bucket List. You probably
won't get a lot out of the movie...but might find it entertaining nevertheless.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Aventurera
Okay, does anyone know if this supposed incident even really happened? I read both Frontera and El Mexicano every day online and saw no reports of
this incident...and God knows those papers looooove to report that kind of news. I also went to El Vigia and looked for a report there but found
nothing.
So I'm thinking this might be a case of much ado about nothing!
[Edited on 6-18-2008 by Aventurera] |
The origingal post that started this thread was by joseA, who is well connected to the police (think he has relatives that are police).
Not everything makes it to the funny papers.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JaraHurd
It is amazing how consistently negative the posts from supposedly tenured members of this website are. |
What does it matter to you how negative other posts are. They express an opinion. If you don't agree, say so but, don't b-tch about opinions you
dont like because you don't like them. Put up a counter-point. I'm sure you'll have the discussion you want.
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JaraHurd
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Nice language. It's your world "select" and "super" nomads. Enjoy it. There really is no discussion here..atleast not a constructive one. My last
addition to this thread are the lyrics to one of my favorite songs: The Sunscreen Song..
Everybody's Free
(to wear sunscreen)
Mary Schmich
Chicago Tribune
Ladies and Gentlemen of the class of '97... wear sunscreen.
If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be IT.
The long term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering
experience.
I will dispense this advice now.
Enjoy the power and beauty of your youth. Never mind. You will not understand the power and beauty of your youth until they have faded. But trust me,
in 20 years you'll look back at photos of yourself and recall in a way you can't grasp now how much possibility lay before you and how fabulous you
really looked.
You are NOT as fat as you imagine.
Don't worry about the future; or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubblegum. The real
troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind; the kind that blindside you at 4pm on some idle Tuesday.
Do one thing every day that scares you.
Sing.
Don't be reckless with other people's hearts, don't put up with people who are reckless with yours.
Floss.
Don't waste your time on jealousy; sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind. The race is long, and in the end, it's only with yourself.
Remember compliments you receive, forget the insults; if you succeed in doing this, tell me how.
Keep your old love letters, throw away your old bank statements.
Stretch.
Don't feel guilty if you don't know what you want to do with your life. The most interesting people I know didn't know at 22 what they wanted to do
with their lives, some of the most interesting 40 year olds I know still don't.
Get plenty of calcium.
Be kind to your knees, you'll miss them when they're gone.
Maybe you'll marry, maybe you won't, maybe you'll have children, maybe you won't, maybe you'll divorce at 40, maybe you'll dance the funky chicken on
your 75th wedding anniversary. Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much or berate yourself, either. Your choices are half chance, so are
everybody else's. Enjoy your body, use it every way you can. Don't be afraid of it, or what other people think of it, it's the greatest instrument
you'll ever own.
Dance. Even if you have nowhere to do it but in your own living room.
Read the directions, even if you don't follow them.
Do NOT read beauty magazines, they will only make you feel ugly.
Get to know your parents, you never know when they'll be gone for good.
Be nice to your siblings; they are your best link to your past and the people most likely to stick with you in the future.
Understand that friends come and go, but for the precious few you should hold on. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography in lifestyle because the
older you get, the more you need the people you knew when you were young.
Live in New York City once, but leave before it makes you hard; live in Northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft.
Travel.
Accept certain inalienable truths, prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old, and when you do you'll fantasize that when you
were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders.
Respect your elders.
Don't expect anyone else to support you. Maybe you have a trust fund, maybe you'll have a wealthy spouse; but you never know when either one might run
out.
Don't mess too much with your hair, or by the time you're 40, it will look 85.
Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past
from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.
But trust me on the sunscreen.
....tis all..you two won't enjoy the lyrics..but I bet some readers will.
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