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Dave
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I live in Baja because...
My villa in Provence needs painting. 
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
If you chose to move to Northern Baja, and you have a palette for European cuisine, why didn't you stay in the United States??? Not being sarcastic,
just wondering how you can stay if you dislike the food there, that's all... |
Never said I dislike Mexican cuisine. Simply responded to your claim that Baja has the best food in the world. That food between TJ and Ensenada is
world-class.
I know better.
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BajaGringo
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Trying to argue whether one place or another has better food is like trying to argue what kind of music sounds best. It's all relative and based on
your own personal taste (and taste buds).
If the food you're eating tastes like the best food in the world to you, then it is. If it you have a different experience then that is your
experience, not his.
Not something to argue over...
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Trying to argue whether one place or another has better food is like trying to argue what kind of music sounds best. Not something to argue over...
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I agree. It's all up to ones' tastebuds. 
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BajaGringo
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Looks delicious. Would taste great with a cold Pacifico...
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Skipjack Joe
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No one ever cooked better than ma. And she traveled all over. 
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Diver
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I gotta agree with Dave; whereas I love Mexican food. the best in the world is found in places like NY and Miami and LA and Tokyo and Kansas City.
 
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bajadave1
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Ken- don't do that!
The ceviche pics are awesome! it's 5:30 AM, and my mouth is watering.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
My villa in Provence needs painting.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
If you chose to move to Northern Baja, and you have a palette for European cuisine, why didn't you stay in the United States??? Not being sarcastic,
just wondering how you can stay if you dislike the food there, that's all... |
Never said I dislike Mexican cuisine. Simply responded to your claim that Baja has the best food in the world. That food between TJ and Ensenada is
world-class.
I know better. |
There used to be a place just south of Puerto Nuevo called the Nueva York Deli... some world class food was served there!
Dave, any future plans?
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Dave
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Thanks, but...
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
There used to be a place just south of Puerto Nuevo called the Nueva York Deli... some world class food was served there! |
David, it was a deli. We served a good sandwich but hardly world class. That distinction should be reserved for the Michelin top 50.
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Dave, any future plans? |
Yep. Working on a new place. Will let you know when.
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David K
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Tongue in cheek on the world class deli.... it was very good, please accept the complement!
I think we all look forward to your new project!
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
I gotta agree with Dave; whereas I love Mexican food. the best in the world is found in places like NY and Miami and LA and Tokyo and Kansas City.
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With all due respect, I am going to disagree with you--think you can take it oh sushi chef?
The best Mexican food, IMHO---oh heck, this is not an opinion, but absolute fact ---is on the mainland of Mexico. One of the great things about traveling the
mainland is going from region to region and experience the regional wonders---all cooked with a little of this spice, and a little of this spice.
From the incredible use of chipoltes in Zacatecas to the multiple regional mole, the variety of Pozoles, and different Sopa de Ajo, the black beans of
southern Mexico, the citrus and anchote flavors in the Yucatan, and the Caribbean influenced cooking in Vera Cruz----did I ever tell you how much we
have enjoyed eating our way all the way through Mexico?
We love Baja, enjoy the food, but for the most part we find the food quite ordinary and repetitive----we love Baja for other reasons---
Oh, we also love the the Tres Hermanos Restuarant at the Verduzco Hotel in Bahia Asuncion----very good fish tacos and other good basic food, fresh
salsa that is NOT made for gringos, and the nicest people around.
But seriously, the food on the mainland is so different, and so good. As a side note, there are some regional specialties I won't try---John is more
daring and will at least taste it---guess what Iguana tastes like? One guess only
Could continue with FACTS about what we found in Central and South America, but I am getting too hungry!
Diane
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Diver
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I am wounded by your dissagreement to the point of whipping up some fresh shrimp tacos !
But I will try harder with our next joint sushi feast !
I do have to admit that Gloria's meals at Tres Hermanos are quite good and beyond that, they are "comfort" food to me as are many Mexican meals.
(FYI - I believe Dave is from Kansas City, therefore the coment.)
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Skipjack Joe
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Gloria is a sweetheart. She's always treated us like family. Even though I doubt she remembers us from year to year.
The same is true of the lady who made breakfast burritos near Cielito Lindo. She's a gem. A mamacita in the latin tradition - who watches and cares as
you eat.
We've met many fine people during our travels.
So here are two more positives about baja I've never brought up. Two exceptional people.
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Ken Cooke
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When mentioning Mariscos as being "World Class" I'm talking about from the Americas. Colombian, Salvadoran, and Pervian Ceviche can't compete with
Northern Baja Ceviche...Just my opinion, though.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Gloria is a sweetheart. She's always treated us like family. Even though I doubt she remembers us from year to year.
The same is true of the lady who made breakfast burritos near Cielito Lindo. She's a gem. A mamacita in the latin tradition - who watches and cares as
you eat.
We've met many fine people during our travels.
So here are two more positives about baja I've never brought up. Two exceptional people. |
Ah Gloria, such a warm person and she shook her finger at us and lectured us when she saw John adding some salt----not good for our health!
Don't know if you are aware, but her husband, Simon died very suddenly this last year. Simon was always there --- need something from the store and
off Simon went. It was a very sad occasion and it has not been easy for Gloria.
She is such a special person who as a very young teenager helped raise her 10 brothers and sisters after their mother died. The youngest brothers in
the family think of her as their mother.
And, after taking care of all 70+ memebers of the family reunion when her daughter was married, she was not happy when we did not show up for the day
after the wedding meal----we thought she had her hands full.
Gloria is high on the list of what is right about Baja. Also, her son, Memo has suspended his studies in La Paz for a year to help out his
mother----another what is right about Baja.
Diane
[Edited on 9-30-2008 by jdtrotter]
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Diver
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by jdtrotter Don't know if you are aware, but her husband, Simon died very suddenly this last year. Simon was always there
--- need something from the store and off Simon went. It was a very sad occasion and it has not been easy for Gloria. |
I was not aware.
He was there for almost every meal last February.
Very sad to hear of his passing.
I was in town without the family and went to eat with Gloria every afternoon.
I always left very full and smiling (fat and happy !)!
I wish her well.
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BajaNuts
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my first try to post pics so here goes............
what I saw in the morning...
what I saw in the evening....
hope this works
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BajaNuts
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HMMM.....well...... the pics are there, I hope it gets back to what's good about Baja..........
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BajaGringo
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Many of the Baja restaurants have created menus that are very bland to be "compatible" with the tourists that frequent the coastline. I have not had
my best meals in Baja at any of the fancy, high dollar places that frequent the road south and tempt the Gringos traveling along the way. I have found
several small, simple and out of the way places that serve food in often humble settings, the menu on a chalkboard or back of a notepad. The owner is
probably cooking and his wife minding the register as well as waiting/bussing tables. There are a couple of local places that are outstanding and
friends who were at surprised at the simple "ambiance" at first now always ask to go back when they are down visiting.
World class? By whose definition? I have lived and worked in many countries from Argentina to Brazil to Singapore and I have found that the best food
in the world is the food that tastes best to you in the world where you live day to day. What good does it do you to argue that some fancy schmanzy
high franc dive in Paris that is world famous might really have the best escargot in the world if that is what floats your boat? Are you going to fly
there this weekend simply to satisfy your urging for some snails smothered in butter and garlic with some overpriced wine to prove your point?
Enjoy the menu where you are eating tonight. It is your "world" right now and I have found that the company I share and the view I get to enjoy during
the meal are just as important (sometimes more) as whether or not it ever made Elmer Dills top ten list. Dining is more of a social / state of mind
experience for me than simply satisfying the urge when hunger calls or critique every bite to see if the chef did it "just right".
But that's just me, what do I know?
YMMV
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BajaNuts
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PS- poeple hang pictures on their walls of things they want to remember. Even though I saw the previous 2 pictures on the same day, only one will go
on my wall. And the other one will not deter me from coming ever coming back. Who knows....maybe someday fulltime sunsets??????????
Ya can't let the stingers keep you from the sunsets!
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