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Don Alley
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Recently a turtle laid its eggs on Loreto's Municipal Beach. A temporary fence was set up, and the newly hatched turtles saved for an evening release,
to protect them from the birds. A large crowd gathered for the release. Yes, it was Mexico recognizing the value and importance of saving the turtles
on the shores of their National Marine Park.
Meanwhile, the wealthy and powerful still eat turtle. And as for protecting their nesting sites, forget about it. All the mainland beaches are slated
for private development. Somehow, Mexico cannot protect any beaches; in fact, one public beach with a developed parking area and public palapas has
been turned over to a development. And of course there are the endless gauntlets of gillnets, and even the token regulations on those nets is ignored.
No, I don't eat sea turtle. I don't see a particular problem with the eating of animals, but I do have a problem with an unregulated slaughter of
whole populations as hypocritical government officials pass meaningless laws and fart meaningless platitudes and proclamations over their bowls of
turtle soup.
A couple of days ago we got skunked on a fishing trip. That's fishing. But we saw a shark finning along the surface. Imagine that! Don't see too many
of those in the Sea of Cortez.
"So, would you like soup with your dinner? Our soups today are turtle soup, or shark fin soup."
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Baja Boy asked for some dialog... so I gave an opinion based on real situations... 'let's talk about it' (was the idea)...
Oh no... can't have open speech with Liberals ready to brow beat any opposition to the (sometimes) 'wacko' world of enviromentalism... Only words from
like-minded liberals are allowed here to go unopposed with facts and common sense...??? Who brings up Rush...? Not me... I don't need a radio
personality for common sense.
You know what's funny Corky and Diane? I was in favor of 'saving' the turtles... but that fact slipped right by because it was more important for you
both to take issue with my question FOR ZAC... I guess in this new era, there will be no need for a First Amendment because nobody will feel free
enough to speak fearing the wrath of the Left! Did I say anything that wasn't true that needed any of you to call attention to?
Geeze Louise (Luis)! |
dk, we can always count on you countering the arguments of environmentalists by stating that whackos are attacking you and trampling on your free
speech rights. not sure how you get the impression that you are being muzzled and gitmo'd, as your post count still shows you to be lead bloviator.
you may be able to get some medicine to treat your martyr complex, probably cheaper to buy in mex pharmacies,...
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Sharksbaja
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David, how do you do this. You can't argue a point even if it's a parallel agreeing consensus if you paint political targets on stuff.
It's good we agree that turtles are worth saving. You are for that right?
Now, as far as labeling anythang liberal that has environmental concern at the heart of the issue. You do that w/o flinching but I must remind you
that there are many conservatives who think the World is round too.
You don't honestly think all environmental issues and legislation is done by liberals do you.
Besides, all Zac did was bait the trap. You took it and went political with it.
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David K
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I was addressing Zac... and I agree that turtles should be removed from everyone's menu until their population returns... and maybe beyond?
The point I was making is what right does some men have to tell others what they can eat? Other animals eat endangered species because it is a NATURAL
thing to do... The endangered species are that for a reason... perhaps man is the reason, but isn't man a natural part of this planet, too?
I say save the turtles so they don't become extinct BECAUSE they taste so good, and we don't want to loose such a yummy treat God has provided us.
Seriously, I do not remember what turtle tastes like or if I even had it when we stayed at Casa Diaz in 1967... I do know that was Cruz Diaz'
specialty there and pilots would drop in if they heard that turtle was the special of the day at Bahia de los Angeles!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The point I was making is what right does some men have to tell others what they can eat? |
If someone came by my house and said he wanted to eat my dog, or any dog that I would be aware of, I would illustrate that right, in short order.
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David K
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But, if your house was in Vietnam... then what???
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David K
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Anyway... what do dogs have to do with turtles or endangered species?
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I don't get it. Are you proposing we have no laws? or only those that you agree with.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The point I was making is what right does some men have to tell others what they can eat? Other animals eat endangered species because it is a NATURAL
thing to do... The endangered species are that for a reason... perhaps man is the reason, but isn't man a natural part of this planet, too?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
But, if your house was in Vietnam... then what???
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Then, I'd have Claymores in my front yard.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
I don't get it. Are you proposing we have no laws? or only those that you agree with.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The point I was making is what right does some men have to tell others what they can eat? Other animals eat endangered species because it is a NATURAL
thing to do... The endangered species are that for a reason... perhaps man is the reason, but isn't man a natural part of this planet, too?
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Eating laws? Does that make sense... unless you are speaking of religion? Orthodox folks don't eat pork or shellfish... something about Saturday being
Holy, too.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
But, if your house was in Vietnam... then what???
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Then, I'd have Claymores in my front yard. |
Might need them in Mexico too..?. Let's hope not!
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
I don't get it. Are you proposing we have no laws? or only those that you agree with.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The point I was making is what right does some men have to tell others what they can eat? Other animals eat endangered species because it is a NATURAL
thing to do... The endangered species are that for a reason... perhaps man is the reason, but isn't man a natural part of this planet, too?
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Eating laws? Does that make sense... unless you are speaking of religion? Orthodox folks don't eat pork or shellfish... something about Saturday being
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So following this logic, one might assume that you agree that eating other human beings is cultural and just a part of nature that should not be
regulated?? There certainly is no shortage of the human being animals and it is a practice that has occured in many parts of the world.
And in modern times, it has saved the lives of some, so maybe we should all try it---might be tasty.
[Edited on 1-26-2009 by jdtrotter]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Anyway... what do dogs have to do with turtles or endangered species? |
Things you don't eat, for any number of reasons.
What's with you, David? Are you the self-apointed arbiter of right and wrong here?
Can you answer that without telling us where you and your parents were in November, '67?
Things have changed everywhere. They have new criteria for evaluation.
The turtles are being slaughtered. Everybody here knows that, including you. Why do you keep up with your slimey references to flavor and taste of
the endangered species?
Your arrogance has finally made me sick.
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Sharksbaja
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Arrogance? Is that what it is? I thought it was something more "Worldly"
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
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ELINVESTIG8R
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PERIOD!!!!
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norte
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Yea, you are right. Here have a peanut butter sandwich... and some peanut butter cookies while your at it.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
I don't get it. Are you proposing we have no laws? or only those that you agree with.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The point I was making is what right does some men have to tell others what they can eat? Other animals eat endangered species because it is a NATURAL
thing to do... The endangered species are that for a reason... perhaps man is the reason, but isn't man a natural part of this planet, too?
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Eating laws? Does that make sense... unless you are speaking of religion? Orthodox folks don't eat pork or shellfish... something about Saturday being
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
PERIOD!!!! |
Good one, David.
How do you do all this stuff anyway? Very creative.....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Yea, you are right. Here have a peanut butter sandwich... and some peanut butter cookies while your at it.
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Norte....You're being a pest. Knock it off.
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Timo1
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HELL!!!
I ate a donkey
why not a turtle burger
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Dennis this is the web site I use to make free flaming fonts.
http://www.flamingtext.com/fonts/
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