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[*] posted on 2-10-2009 at 10:25 AM


fdt, as a private pilot fishbuck can't request a "fare" but he can ask for people to share expenses. I guess your share would depend on how much beer you drink.

Sounds like a fun trip fishbuck, wish I could join you. We will be down there about the same time but in the camper instead of the plane. Maybe we will run into each other....first beer is on me......dt
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[*] posted on 2-10-2009 at 11:48 AM


Yes, thank you. I meant to write how much is the shared expense?



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[*] posted on 2-10-2009 at 12:42 PM


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[*] posted on 2-10-2009 at 04:28 PM


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Yes, thank you. I meant to write how much is the shared expense?


Based on a 4 way expense share my estimate is $300 each. I need at least 1 person to pitch in but 2 or 3 is better.
It will take about 3.5 hours each way. Plus there is landing fees, an airway fee, and insurance. All fuel and other aircraft expenses are covered in the rental cost.
The plane costs $140/hour while the engine is running. Certainly not cheap but you get to travel at about 150 mph and don't have to deal with traffic etc.
If you fly with me 1 time you will never want to drive again. Flying is much quicker, easier and relaxing. Plus the view is spectacular.




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[*] posted on 2-10-2009 at 05:07 PM


Flight plan San Diego-San Felipe-Guerrero Negro:





We will probably use this one on the south bound flight.

[Edited on 2-11-2009 by fishbuck]




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[*] posted on 2-11-2009 at 04:53 PM


Bump!:cool:



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[*] posted on 2-11-2009 at 05:38 PM


Any takers yet fish?....dt
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[*] posted on 2-11-2009 at 06:04 PM


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Any takers yet fish?....dt


Non yet. But I will proceed with the plan. I don't think I will fly down by myself although that would be fun.
But the plane will cost somewhere between $1000-1200 so I'm not sure I want to spend that much by myself.

When I recalculated the time it comes out to 2.41 hours based on 135knots(150mph). Or 4.82 hours round trip.
If that is accurate the aircraft rental cost is $676.00 total. Or $170/per person base on a four way expense share.
As I mentioned before there is insurance cost, an airway fee, and landing fees. Or about another $25-50 each.

You can never really be sure how much it will cost until after you've done it. So I always estimate a little high but the expense share will be based on the actual cost.

Somewhere between $200-300 each based on 4 people. I will go if I get one person to go an pitch in the 1/4 share.




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[*] posted on 2-12-2009 at 04:34 PM


Okay, I am making a new schedule.
It seems like no one wants to go on this trip. So I think I will fly down alone. I need the flying and I'm planning more Baja trips this year so I need the practice.
I will now leave Saturday morning. Maybe as early as 8am if the weather is VFR. Maybe even a special VFR if it's clear in the direction San Felipe.

Specifications (for a 1972 PA32-300)

- Top Speed 174 mph
- Cruise Speed, 75% power (15.8 gal/h) 168 mph
- Stall Speed, flaps 63 mph
- Stall Speed, no flaps 70 mph
- Landing Roll, flaps 630 ft
- Landing Roll over 50 ft Obstacle 1000 ft
- Empty Weight 1788 lb
- Useful Load 1612 lb
- Engine Lycoming IO-540-K1A5
- Horsepower 300
- Propeller Diameter 80 in
- Fuel Capacity 84 US gal

According to my spec sheet a PA32-300 can cruise at 168mph at 75% power.
It's 170 statute miles from San Diego to San Felipe. So about 1 hour.
And 204 statute miles from San Felipe to Guerrero Negro. About 1.2 hours.
So I should be able to get to G. N. by noon time on Saturday.
Ya, I miss the friday night party but I can party on Saturday night. And then I'll whale watch on Sunday morning and fly home Sunday afternoon.
This way I don't miss any days of work. And I'll be traveling very light so I make that plane go as fast as it can at 75% power. That will be fast.
Of course I will still take someone if the want to share to cost.
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[*] posted on 2-13-2009 at 04:13 AM


I really have Baja on my mind. And flying.
1 more day of work and then flying on Saturday. I figure I'll fly about 2 hours. Maybe a little less.
I need to work with the radios and go to a few different airports.
Maybe cost about $400 including the instructor. But this is the last time I'll need him. He already likes my flying. I just need to smooth it up a little and work on congested airspace practice.
It's funny because in Baja there is no one to talk to on the radio. When you get close to a controlled airport there is.
I need to find out if Guerrero Negro is a controlled airport. I don't think so.

I'm having my doubts about spending so much money to go whale watching. I've seen lots of gray whales. But never upclose in the lagoons.
I could save the flying trip for later in the year when it's warmer. For fishing!

Maybe I will get on an airliner and go to Cabo and catch a fish.
Maybe a marlin. It would cost about the same.

But I need this flying trip. I need to get my baja flying back on track.
I was thinking that on the way home from G.N. I will land on my runway in San Quintin. I won't even get out of the plane. Just taxi back and takeoff for home.

But someday San Quintin will be my home. And I'll have my plane there. And I can just jump in and fly where ever I want. Where ever the fish are biting.
Where ever the beer is cold and the women are... well, you know! ;)

[Edited on 2-13-2009 by fishbuck]




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[*] posted on 2-13-2009 at 05:49 AM


Hope you can make it happen, the part about your own plane and San Quintin too.

Flying in Baja has been one of my greatest adventures in life and I'm fortunate to have a wife who looks forward to adventure as much as I do. Maybe we can fly down together some time.......dt



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[*] posted on 2-13-2009 at 12:46 PM
Bill Allen ?


Any chance related to the old CEO of Boeing?

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[*] posted on 2-13-2009 at 01:23 PM


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Any chance related to the old CEO of Boeing?

:o:o:o

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Are you by chance thinking of Alan Mulally?:?:
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[*] posted on 2-13-2009 at 05:38 PM


Yes even my thread is boring to me today!



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[*] posted on 2-15-2009 at 01:26 AM


Flew the plane today. I still have it scheduled for the 27-2 for whale watching.
I will fly it again next Saturday for about 1 more hour.
Weather was great today. Could have made it all the way to Guerrero Negro no problem.:)

[Edited on 2-15-2009 by fishbuck]




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