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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LB
Karennintx, did they suggest how you would go about letting them (IMS)know
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Being a snitch to your own kind is not cool. Dislike what they do if you are inclined to do that but, don't turn anybody in. Nobody on either side
will admire that. Why would you even consider doing something like this?
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Under no circumstance would we ever "snitch" on someone...nor do I appreciate anyone thinking or suggesting this. Others on this thread said they
know people that rent out homes...did you suggest they "snitch"?
All I did was report what Immirgration told us and somehow I am being lectured to about "snitching". We figure if they (Immirgration) showed up once
they will show up again AND probably already know what is going on so there is no reason for me to tell them anything.
I will not saying anything more...as it will not come across well.
[Edited on 8-1-2009 by karenintx]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by karenintx
All I did was report what Immirgration told us and somehow I am being lecured to about "snitching".
I will not saying anything more...as it will not come across well. |
Chill out there, Karen. My post wasn't a response to anything you said. Read back....when your done, go take a cold shower.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by LB
Karennintx, did they suggest how you would go about letting them (IMS)know
about the illegal renters? |
Being a snitch to your own kind is not cool. Dislike what they do if you are inclined to do that but, don't turn anybody in. Nobody on either side
will admire that. Why would you even consider doing something like this? |
Dennis, for what crimes is it OK to be a snitch? should you keep quiet about your neighbors tax evasion, bribery, breaking and entering, spouse abuse
or murder?
inquiring minds want to know.
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LB
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karen is innocent!! a simply question and all hells break lose
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LB
karen is innocent!! a simply question and all hells break lose |
Yeah...I know. I was talking to you. Are you as confused as she is?
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this is an interesting topic and serves as a heads up to people renting illegally. It does bother me sometimes a bit when we jump through all the
hoops, pay all the taxes, maintain a company etc. etc. to do business in baja and others just slide through illegally...not a real fair playing field
but there is a need for rentals that gringos fill and perhaps not enough legal rentals...but like sr.goat alludes to...when is it OK to run an illegal
business??
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Dennis ...you are nasty!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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some people think it is OK to steal from the government, so they look the other way when they see tax evaders, black market businesses w/out licenses,
squatters on govt land, poaching fish, animals and plants from govt land, and stealing on govt land. maybe there is no difference between tax evasion
and breaking into a govt office building to steal a computer.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Dennis, for what crimes is it OK to be a snitch? |
I don't have a proper Christian list but, I'm sure it wouldn't include running to the authorities with information on your expat neighbor simply to
ingratiate yourself with them, and that's all it is.
Why would any expat here even think it's moral to turn in one of his own who's activities will never involve him? This isn't drug dealing which has
far reaching implications , nor is it a crime of high misdemeanor or felony. It's just a part of our world in action regardless of the effing letter
of the law.
Would you want me to run to a cop every time you spit on a sidewalk? Would you want to live in a society that runs to the police every time someone
violates a regulation?
This here or there isn't Natzee Germany but some people think the Hitlerian model has value.
I don't. Mind your own freakin business unless it,s important to life and limb.
You, Goat, agree with this...I know.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LB
Dennis ...you are nasty!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
You ain't seen nothin' yet.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Being a snitch to your own kind is not cool.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Why would any expat here even think it's moral to turn in one of his own |
dennis,
what's all this about protecting ones "own?"
everybody has to live with their neighbors, but if your neighbors are crooks you really shouldn't protect them just because they are gringos/expats
like you. your comment suggests it would be different if your neighbor was mexican????
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
dennis,
what's all this about protecting ones "own?"
everybody has to live with their neighbors, but if your neighbors are crooks you really shouldn't protect them just because they are gringos/expats
like you. your comment suggests it would be different if your neighbor was mexican???? |
Well, Goat...it's called Solidarity. Remember when Havel used it as a battle cry to inspire a successful revolution? Those folks stuck together and
won. They didn't give each other up to the authorities for any reason.
Since then, Mexico adopted the binding sentiment to gather popular support for numerous causes and many were fruitful. Many weren't but, not for
lack of the appeal for cohesiouvness. [sp? I'll look it up later]
A more important and verifiable meaning to me came from my time in the military. I won't even dwell on the importance of keeping things to oneself in
that setting.
Another model of integrity, wrong or right, would be gangs. They don't spill the beans to authorities...not because their brains would look like a
spilled bowl of refries if they did but, because they have solidarity. They, along with the military have what we as US expats should have as a
sense of togetherness and loyalty. You don't burn your neighbor, your friend, even if you've never met him
It's a matter of honor. Sell out your friend, your neighbor, and you sell out your honor.
On the other hand, if you never had that, it won't make a difference to you and you won't have a clue as to what I'm saying.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
your comment suggests it would be different if your neighbor was mexican???? |
Ludicrous....deserves no reply.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Another model of integrity,... gangs. They don't spill the beans to authorities...not because their brains would look like a spilled bowl of refries
if they did but, because they have solidarity. They, along with the military have what we as US expats should have as a sense of togetherness and
loyalty. You don't burn your neighbor, your friend, even if you've never met him
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using gangs to justify your looking the other way when your neighbors commit murder or tax evasion or operate a black market business without
licenses.... 
dennis, i imagine your condo homeowners association is a little like lord of the flies or N-zi germany
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| Quote: | Originally posted by karenintx
About renting out your house or condo...I can share with you what the local Immirgation office in CSL told our HOA.
This was at one of our semi-annual HOA meetings and there was a surprise vist from them. Not only was this directed to the property rental business
that rents several homeowners condos out but also to the indivduals that rent their condos out via the internet. All this was done in Spanish with
our attorney translating. We do not rent our condo out but we still found the information very interesting.
We were told:
1. Yes, you can rent out your condo (or homes) however you have to have a FM-3 or FM-2. Also your FM-3 or 2 has to show you are in the rental
business. You can not come into Mexico on a FMT. Reason they gave was "a FMT is for tourist and when you rent out your condo you are now conducting
business in Mexico so you are not a tourist".
2. Your bank "Fidi" has to read your are doing business. It has to read " rental property business". We assume the bank will charge you to do this.
3. You have to get an RFC #, register with the Hacienda and start paying taxes to the bank.
All I can say there are still people renting and they did nothing to "get legal". Several other homeowners would love to see them "get legal" or stop
renting.
[Edited on 8-1-2009 by karenintx] |
Excellent information for all---thanks!
Diane
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Being a snitch to your own kind is not cool. Dislike what they do if you are inclined to do that but, don't turn anybody in. Nobody on either side
will admire that. Why would you even consider doing something like this? |
You've obviously not lived next to an absentee owner who rents his home to vacationers.
Most miserable two years of my life.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
You've obviously not lived next to an absentee owner who rents his home to vacationers.
Most miserable two years of my life. |
Did you turn in the landlord to the police for renting his property without a proper business license?
[Edited on 8-2-2009 by DENNIS]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Did you turn in the landlord to the police for renting his property without a proper business license?
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Not to the police. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Not to the police. |
I didn't figure you would although there are some here who not only feel it's your prerogative to do that but, your obligation as well. You
know...the purity of this world is in your hands.
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