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Barry A.
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JR
Jr----I don't believe it is necessarily "what" you are saying, it is the WAY you say it that gets folks upset-----you are so caustic and
demeaning------Mike is right, the whole thread was leading towards 4-strokes which is what you are advocating, I think, so what is the problem?
Barry
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jrbaja
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The problem WAS !
"This guy is better then he used to be so I just roll with him."
And me taking it out of proportion.
Mike and I had some serious issues a while back which didn't make either one of us look to good so I am a little touchy about certain comments.
I apologize for anything personal said that didn't apply to outboard motors.
I don't apologize for stating my feelings on preserving the Sea of Cortez.
Obviously, this is a major concern for Mike and I hope the rest are paying attention as well.
Good luck on the outboard.
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Pescador
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Mike, this is as bad as trying to decide whose truck is the best. The real issue is that a 4 stroke gets better mileage than a two stroke. They are
a little slower at initial acceleration but are much quiter and will always run at slow speeds for a longer period of time without fouling plugs or
misfiring. They are slightly heavier than their two stroke counterparts but after having used both motors for years I would never even consider using
another two stroke motor. I have been pushing these aluminum boats over the sea of cortez since a small youngster and you are absolutely correct in
your assumption that the heavier Gregor needs a minimum of 20 HP. I prefer a 25 for the Gregor but either will perform adequately. That boat
overloads easily with too many people on board and I seriously think over two is starting to get a little heavy, especially where you fish at BOLA.
But you have been going down there a long time and probably have a good feel for the water and weather. I like the electric start option because
sooner or later you may want to add a depthfinder and it is much easier to hook them up if you can put some current back into the battery when
underway. At a very minumum, if you do not opt for the elec. start, at least make sure that you have an alternator that you can hook to a battery. A
fishfinder is worth it's weight in gold.
Another hint with either the Honda or Yamaha, is to change your impeller in the water pump at least every two years and they will never fail you.
If you want some really good prices on either of these outboards, try www.edsmarinesuperstore.com
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Mike Humfreville
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Thank you to all
This has been a long thread and has involved much more than just what engine to buy with reasons why and I learned a lot )hope others did too) and I
want to sincerely thank all who contributed to our collective knowledge.
We are, after all, nomads.
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Mike Humfreville
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Thanks to all for your suggestions and comments. I just ordered a Honda 20 HP 4-stroke for $2495 from a dealer in Ventura. So now we're on to the
trial and error stage.
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Barry A.
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Yeeeeee haaaaa!! Your going to love it. Congrats to you.
Don't forget the safety chain.
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Markitos
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Should'a bought a sailing sabot. Just kidden, although they go a perfect trolling speed !!
All that wonder are not lost
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David K
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Dave, are you and Yvonne going to be there (next door to explosion central)?
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David A.
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Yes we will be there. We are leaving Friday after noon and driving to Cielito Lindo for the night. We should be ontime for the second happy hour.
We should be at our place around noon Saturday. See you there.
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honda tom
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great choice! You will never have to buy 1 again. Hope to see your new rig at gonzaga sometime soon.
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