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DENNIS
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And another thing while I'm steaming....Doesn't Tijuana have a large police academy? Sure they do. What does this have to say about the inadequacy
of that agency to train police?
It probably doesn't say anything except they're going to get something for nothing and it might improve their image for a couple of weeks at US
expense.
Gawwwdamm...this sham irritates me no end.
REMEMBER THE ZETAS...Another great US idea.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
It's only grandstanding politics if there's no hard business data to support the theory that this will be something to improve San Diego's economy.
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Well, at least there is an "IF" there.
"grandstanding politics"
What does that mean and what is the purpose?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
"grandstanding politics"
What does that mean and what is the purpose? |
It means Red Herring. It means, solve the problem and training cops to act like Richard Simmons wont do that.
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k-rico
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Tijuana Tailspin Hurting San Diego?
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2009/aug/12/tijuana-tails...
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Dianamo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
It all boils down to money. There is an incredible amount of money floating around. Obscene amounts of money. This will not end until the US legalizes
pot. But who wants to guess when, if ever that will happen? |
Why didn't we learn that "prohibition" cannot work without crime. As long as anything for personal consumptions is illegal there will be a huge profit
margin and crime will remain. Remove the huge profits and there is no incentive for the crime.
I had the opportunity to sign the petition yesterday!
Minds are like parachutes...they only function when open!
\"The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men.\" - Plato
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Bajahowodd
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Good for you!
Hey. I really feel for the daunting task facing Juan Saldana. One thing that appears to be overlooked in all the hub bub about tourist police, is
this.
Let's say that a miracle happens, and tomorrow, Tijuana is completely free of drug crime, cartels, Etc. Even if and when tourists feel safe if they
travel to TJ, there is a big change that no one appears to realize. It's the passport requirement, coupled with the huge delays coming back. Americans
possess a startlingly low percentage of passports as compared to most industrialized nations. Add to that, the fact that even those that have them do
not carry them during domestic travel. So, the spur of the moment trip to TJ, while vacationing in San Diego is far less likely to happen than in days
past. Even, feeling a tinge of nostalgia here, what locals even think about hitting TJ for the evening to grab a couple of margaritas and dinner?
If there is to be any effective cross-border cooperation on the tourism issue, it's going to have to involve the Feds. For example, what if the
Customs and Immigration people devised a secure pass for the day tripper? Let's say they set up a booth on the US side of the border, and issue day
passes, securely printed and numbered, issued subject to photo ID. And maybe they could dedicate a pedestrian lane for re-entry. Just saying that with
the current passport requirement, tourism will never return to the levels of the past.
[Edited on 10-6-2009 by Bajahowodd]
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toneart
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Me thinks San Diego is Looking For Love In All The Wrong Places Hey! That
would be a great title for a song! 
It's got all the elements, such as: "The biatch got me all likkered up an stole ma gun right outta ma holster, put on ma boots and rode ma horse right
on inta the sunset and disappeared. And ma dawg upped an followered her.
But ah still got ma hat that K-rico gave me, so there's still a chance the TJ tourist police can find ma wanderin' lost Love.
 
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DENNIS
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Aw...Who cares. It'll do what it does and there's nothing we can do about it.
We are all victims.
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wessongroup
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Hell, I've got the Mexican Army driving by.. "I don't need no stinking police".
Said with a great deal of respect for the police of Mexico, what a difficult situation.. and for years I thought my job was hard..
Retired crash test dummy..
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Hell, I've got the Mexican Army driving by.. "I don't need no stinking police".
Said with a great deal of respect for the police of Mexico, what a difficult situation.. and for years I thought my job was hard..
Retired crash test dummy.. |
You had more ambition than I. I aspired to being a speed bump, but the effort was
too daunting. I never couldn't get it together. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
"I don't need no stinking police".
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The problem is....you do.
Society, as we know it, is incumbent on protection that we have agreed to, and if it isn't allowed or provided as we require it, the agreement is
meaningless.
Why would you rely on a meaningless agreement?
Why would you rely on an agency which you have entrusted with your well being if they wont provide you your security?
Do you own a gun?
You very well should.
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wessongroup
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More cops
"Society, as we know it, is incumbent on protection that we have agreed to"
Who's we, white man... never signed on to a police state... and yeah I got an AK-47, pump shotgun, and a glock, plus some amo... and if I can I will
get some heavy stuff if it comes to that too...
However, I feel safer here in Mexico than I do in Orange County California ...
[Edited on 10-7-2009 by wessongroup]
[Edited on 10-7-2009 by wessongroup]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
... never signed on to a police state... |
I'm willing to bet you didn't sign on for Anarchy either.
I keep forgetting how the mindset changes from one side of the border to the other. On the Mexico side, the luxery of having a locked and loaded
arsenal isn't openly available and for those who adhere to that law, the illusion of security is absent.
You forgot to mention Claymore Mines. An Orange County toy box would be incomplete without a bunch of those.
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The more I think about this the more it doesn't make sense - especially in light of what Bajahowodd has pointed out, and the fact that tourists,
generally, really haven't been targeted by those orchestrating the murders and other crimes that we hear about. Mordida relating to traffic stops has
been going on for many years. There was that rash of Mex. 1 armed robberies, but seems to have stopped. So the whole premise of this project seems
misplaced. You have to wonder the real reason, and who initiated it. And then it occurred to me that Sanders is definitely getting in harms way.
Cops are being murdered by drug cartels to send a message to lay off and let them proliferate - now SDPD is getting involved? Wouldn't that just make
Sanders a drug cartel target?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
Cops are being murdered by drug cartels to send a message to lay off and let them proliferate - now SDPD is getting involved? Wouldn't that just make
Sanders a drug cartel target? |
Like you said, tourism and cartel activities don't seem to get in each other's way so a tourisim police force, which he is involving himself with,
would seem to be of no interest to the cartels.
Perhaps to the contrary depending on how deeply the cartels are financially involved in the tourism industry. This new law enforcment effort or
whatever it is may be a welcome addition as far as they're concerned.
It's Mexico. Who really knows.
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